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cali

(114,904 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:08 PM Jul 2012

Out on a limb: I predict it'll be Rob Portman as rMoney's running mate

Early endorser, D.C. insider, conservative, reportedly they get along very well. anti-choicer and big supporter of the Ryan budget.

Most of all, he's from Ohio.

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Out on a limb: I predict it'll be Rob Portman as rMoney's running mate (Original Post) cali Jul 2012 OP
Ive narrowed it down to Portman or Kelly Ayotte. DCBob Jul 2012 #1
Ayotte would be a dream, they do need a woman TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #2
Not so sure Freddie Jul 2012 #5
she's not a guv, never was. she was sec of state in NH and was voted in as cali Jul 2012 #8
She isn't/wasn't a governor, TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #11
I don't think Ayotte has enough experience to be the pick cali Jul 2012 #3
I didnt know about all that but.. DCBob Jul 2012 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Freddie Jul 2012 #4
Yep. He's pretty safe. No falling down bridge like T Paw, no craziness. Just the ticket for the CTyankee Jul 2012 #6
Agree, I've thought Portman for a while Freddie Jul 2012 #10
That makes "sense" but its white bread and skim milk. DCBob Jul 2012 #12
But I'm beginning to think that that is exactly what Romney's people want. CTyankee Jul 2012 #36
that's what I guessed yesterday.. For some reason I think they'll go with Ohio. progressivebydesign Jul 2012 #9
I'm going further out on a limb: Toomey earthside Jul 2012 #13
not a chance. not even being vetted. cali Jul 2012 #14
How do you know? earthside Jul 2012 #19
Because it's hard to hide that shit from the media and because they've leaked the short list cali Jul 2012 #20
And we certainly believe what the Rmoney campaign leaks. n/t earthside Jul 2012 #37
I am going to go with littlewolf Jul 2012 #15
There is absolutely no way that he'll pick pro-choice Condi cali Jul 2012 #17
The "do no harm" candidate JohnnyRingo Jul 2012 #16
exactly, and he's very conservative cali Jul 2012 #18
Wasn't he the budget director leftynyc Jul 2012 #21
Yeah, but he was only there for a year. cali Jul 2012 #23
Tie him to bush and the economy leftynyc Jul 2012 #28
Could be Pawlenty cali Jul 2012 #32
Also seeing leftynyc Jul 2012 #33
Never heard of him. . B Calm Jul 2012 #22
U.S. Senator, former Congressman cali Jul 2012 #24
Junior's budget director: He would be perfect MrScorpio Jul 2012 #25
oh I don't know if he's the worst possible from a policy perspective cali Jul 2012 #27
I agree JustAnotherGen Jul 2012 #26
I still think it'll be Ken Lay. Scuba Jul 2012 #29
lol. cali Jul 2012 #30
Laughter is the best medicine. I love you too. Scuba Jul 2012 #31
This tragic early morning leftynyc Jul 2012 #34
aw, thanks so much lefty. cali Jul 2012 #38
Glad you mended fences leftynyc Jul 2012 #40
Trust me it'll be Portman. Puglover Jul 2012 #35
really not much of a limb since he is basically one of the main contenders in media speculation. WI_DEM Jul 2012 #39
yeah, it's a pretty broad limb. cali Jul 2012 #42
And white and male and boring enough! morningfog Jul 2012 #41

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
1. Ive narrowed it down to Portman or Kelly Ayotte.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:14 PM
Jul 2012

I think they still desperately want a woman on the ticket.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
8. she's not a guv, never was. she was sec of state in NH and was voted in as
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:24 PM
Jul 2012

US Senator from that state in 2010, but I don't think he'll go with her either.

TheCowsCameHome

(40,168 posts)
11. She isn't/wasn't a governor,
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jul 2012

but how do you think the two top spots filled by residents of the same state on the GOP presidential ticket would play out in the rest of the country?

Not so well, I'd suspect.

I hope he does pick her.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
3. I don't think Ayotte has enough experience to be the pick
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:20 PM
Jul 2012

and not enough knowledge of the ins and outs of D.C. and Congress- she's only been in DC for a year and a half.

and she has some problems:

Financial Resources Mortgage fraud

Ayotte has been criticized for her former office's alleged refusal to investigate charges against mortgage investment firm Financial Resources Mortgage (FRM)[25] which has been accused of orchestrating a $80–100 million Ponzi scheme. Scott Farah, the former president of Financial Resources Mortgage, was accused of swindling investors out of millions of dollars, using investor funds to pay other investors and his own personal expenses, and has agreed, under a plea agreement, to plead guilty to federal wire and mail fraud charges in exchange for a nearly 20-year prison sentence.[26]

In May 2010, New Hampshire's current Attorney General Michael Delaney issued a report[27][28][29][30][31][32][33] faulting New Hampshire's Attorney General's office during Ayotte's tenure, the state Banking Department and the state Securities Bureau for failing to investigate complaints against Financial Resources Mortgage. Concurrently, a joint state legislative committee[34][35] conducted an independent investigation and held public hearings. The Joint Legislative Committee to Review the State’s Regulatory Oversight Over Financial Resources Mortgage reached conclusions similar to those of Delaney's report, according to a draft report.[26][36][37][38]

Republican candidate for Governor John Stephen has criticized Ayotte for her lack of oversight of Financial Resources Mortgage's activities. Stephens has said that Ayotte "has to be held accountable" for her and the New Hampshire Department of Justice's failure to act on complaints received about Financial Resources Mortgage's conduct.[39]
Deleted emails

Ayotte's office deleted Ayotte's email and calendar of appointments from their computer systems prior to Ayotte's resignation as New Hampshire Attorney General.[40] Two days before Ayotte resigned her post as Attorney General and less than one week before Ayotte filed to run for the Senate Republican primary, Ayotte's office issued a policy memorandum covering deleted emails.[41] The memorandum states that, "While courts have not yet addressed the issue, it is our view that electronic records that have been legally deleted and are available only on system back-up storage media are properly treated as no longer subject to disclosure" under New Hampshire's Right-to-Know Law.[41][42]

On September 10, 2010, the New Hampshire Attorney General's Office released copies of many, but not all, of Ayotte's deleted emails in response to Right-to-Know requests.[43] The Attorney General's Office also reported that many of Ayotte's "deleted" emails could not be recovered because backup tapes on which they had been stored had been re-used.[41][42]

The legality of the permanent deletion of Ayotte's emails by New Hampshire's Attorney General's office is the subject of a law suit currently pending in New Hampshire's Merrimack County Superior Court.[41]

On October 11, 2010, Paul Hodes, Democratic candidate for the Senate, accused Ayotte of using a capital murder case that Ayotte prosecuted in 2006 for political gain and for politicizing the case. Hodes based his accusation upon emails exchanged between Ayotte and Rob Varsalone, currently Ayotte's campaign strategist, during 2006.[44][45] The emails were released to the public by the New Hampshire Department of Justice on September 10, 2010 under a Right-to-Know request. Subsequently, Hodes has suggested, based on Ayotte's released emails, that Ayotte's political ambitions may have in part motivated Ayotte's decision to seek the death penalty in the case.[44][45]
Financial Resources Mortgage fraud

Ayotte has been criticized for her former office's alleged refusal to investigate charges against mortgage investment firm Financial Resources Mortgage (FRM)[25] which has been accused of orchestrating a $80–100 million Ponzi scheme. Scott Farah, the former president of Financial Resources Mortgage, was accused of swindling investors out of millions of dollars, using investor funds to pay other investors and his own personal expenses, and has agreed, under a plea agreement, to plead guilty to federal wire and mail fraud charges in exchange for a nearly 20-year prison sentence.[26]

In May 2010, New Hampshire's current Attorney General Michael Delaney issued a report[27][28][29][30][31][32][33] faulting New Hampshire's Attorney General's office during Ayotte's tenure, the state Banking Department and the state Securities Bureau for failing to investigate complaints against Financial Resources Mortgage. Concurrently, a joint state legislative committee[34][35] conducted an independent investigation and held public hearings. The Joint Legislative Committee to Review the State’s Regulatory Oversight Over Financial Resources Mortgage reached conclusions similar to those of Delaney's report, according to a draft report.[26][36][37][38]

Republican candidate for Governor John Stephen has criticized Ayotte for her lack of oversight of Financial Resources Mortgage's activities. Stephens has said that Ayotte "has to be held accountable" for her and the New Hampshire Department of Justice's failure to act on complaints received about Financial Resources Mortgage's conduct.[39]
Deleted emails

Ayotte's office deleted Ayotte's email and calendar of appointments from their computer systems prior to Ayotte's resignation as New Hampshire Attorney General.[40] Two days before Ayotte resigned her post as Attorney General and less than one week before Ayotte filed to run for the Senate Republican primary, Ayotte's office issued a policy memorandum covering deleted emails.[41] The memorandum states that, "While courts have not yet addressed the issue, it is our view that electronic records that have been legally deleted and are available only on system back-up storage media are properly treated as no longer subject to disclosure" under New Hampshire's Right-to-Know Law.[41][42]

On September 10, 2010, the New Hampshire Attorney General's Office released copies of many, but not all, of Ayotte's deleted emails in response to Right-to-Know requests.[43] The Attorney General's Office also reported that many of Ayotte's "deleted" emails could not be recovered because backup tapes on which they had been stored had been re-used.[41][42]

The legality of the permanent deletion of Ayotte's emails by New Hampshire's Attorney General's office is the subject of a law suit currently pending in New Hampshire's Merrimack County Superior Court.[41]

On October 11, 2010, Paul Hodes, Democratic candidate for the Senate, accused Ayotte of using a capital murder case that Ayotte prosecuted in 2006 for political gain and for politicizing the case. Hodes based his accusation upon emails exchanged between Ayotte and Rob Varsalone, currently Ayotte's campaign strategist, during 2006.[44][45] The emails were released to the public by the New Hampshire Department of Justice on September 10, 2010 under a Right-to-Know request. Subsequently, Hodes has suggested, based on Ayotte's released emails, that Ayotte's political ambitions may have in part motivated Ayotte's decision to seek the death penalty in the case.[44][45]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelly_Ayotte

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
7. I didnt know about all that but..
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:24 PM
Jul 2012

to Rethugs that might not be a big deal. Thanks for the info.

Response to DCBob (Reply #1)

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
6. Yep. He's pretty safe. No falling down bridge like T Paw, no craziness. Just the ticket for the
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:23 PM
Jul 2012

ticket. Checks all the boxes.

I think all they want to do is check the safe boxes and hope the bad economy sinks Obama.

Just my 2 cents, for what it's worth...

Freddie

(9,259 posts)
10. Agree, I've thought Portman for a while
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:27 PM
Jul 2012

Blank slate, no known scandals, white male, very vanilla. They did "colorful" the last time.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
12. That makes "sense" but its white bread and skim milk.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:29 PM
Jul 2012

that ticket would be about as boring an uninspring as you could possibly get.

CTyankee

(63,903 posts)
36. But I'm beginning to think that that is exactly what Romney's people want.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jul 2012

Boring and uninspiring beats shifty eyed, tax dodgers in this instance. Better safe than sorry is probably their only refuge at this point...

progressivebydesign

(19,458 posts)
9. that's what I guessed yesterday.. For some reason I think they'll go with Ohio.
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:25 PM
Jul 2012

Seems to be the centerpiece of the vote suppression, strategies. He's an absolute ass... and the rest of the short list is trying to impress Romney with their vicious attacks on the President, but I think Portman.

Of course, how will they spin that he was a lobbyist for Dictators? That's weird..

and god, wouldn't they be the most white bread boring guys ever? Two elitists?

earthside

(6,960 posts)
13. I'm going further out on a limb: Toomey
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:30 PM
Jul 2012

Frankly, I think that because of Sherrod Brown's campaign for reelection, Ohio is going to go for Obama.

Therefore, the only 'big industrial state' Rmoney may have a shot at is Pennsylvania.

Besides, Toomey doesn't have the same kind of direct, high profile ties to Bush/Cheney as Portman has.



earthside

(6,960 posts)
19. How do you know?
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 09:22 PM
Jul 2012

Unless you are a Rmoney insider, how do you know whether or not Toomey has been 'vetted'?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
20. Because it's hard to hide that shit from the media and because they've leaked the short list
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:51 AM
Jul 2012
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
17. There is absolutely no way that he'll pick pro-choice Condi
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:40 PM
Jul 2012

and West doesn't have the D.C. experience he so desperately needs.

JohnnyRingo

(18,624 posts)
16. The "do no harm" candidate
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:36 PM
Jul 2012

He's about as nondescript as they get, and has govt experience with party loyalty.

If people here in Ohio listed the Republicans we can't stand, he'd be near the bottom. Indeed, most don't know what he ever did. The man could blend into the wallpaper, but he'll never embarass the candidate.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. exactly, and he's very conservative
Thu Jul 19, 2012, 08:41 PM
Jul 2012

has a shitload of D.C. experience and knows the workings of Congress inside and out.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
21. Wasn't he the budget director
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:02 AM
Jul 2012

or something like that under Bush? If so, that would be a gift to the Democrats if this does come down to "it's the economy, stupid".

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
23. Yeah, but he was only there for a year.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:42 AM
Jul 2012

and no, he's not really a great gift to the dems for that reason.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
28. Tie him to bush and the economy
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:24 AM
Jul 2012

In the age of freeking soundbites and out of context quoting, I'm sure the Obama team can come up with something. But I think it will be Pawlenty unless it's a palin-like out of nowhere pick.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
32. Could be Pawlenty
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:32 AM
Jul 2012

it'd make the ticket a teeny bit more "diverse". Pawlenty comes from a working class background. Portman has the same sort of U background as Romney.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
33. Also seeing
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:06 AM
Jul 2012

Nikki Haley and Kelly Ayotte's name being thrown around but Haley has problems at home and I can't really see him picking someone from NH (two northeasterners? with the way their base feels about the NE). Probably just trying to show they're thinking about a woman. Rubio or Jindal will get their birther base into a tizzy (whch would be kinda fun for us).

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
24. U.S. Senator, former Congressman
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:45 AM
Jul 2012

former director of management and budget. Effective in getting bills through as a congress critter. more conservative than many think.

MrScorpio

(73,630 posts)
25. Junior's budget director: He would be perfect
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 06:14 AM
Jul 2012

Seeing how Romney has been screwing up everything, Portman would be the perfect choice. The man most responsible for designing the budget which almost bankrupted the country.

The worst person possible would be par for the course.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
27. oh I don't know if he's the worst possible from a policy perspective
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:01 AM
Jul 2012

though he's certainly in the bottom tier, but then aren't they all? From an electoral perspective I think he'd be a fairly smart choice.

JustAnotherGen

(31,810 posts)
26. I agree
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:00 AM
Jul 2012

My Congress Critter is a Republican and a few weeks ago posted a pic of he and Portman and stated "most likely to be our VP pick". And he was pretty enthusiastic about it and actually engaged his constituents in a discussion as to why he was the best person to run with Romney.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
30. lol.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 07:26 AM
Jul 2012

I love you Scuba. You made me laugh out loud and I've had a terrible morning (since about 3 a.m.) with pain. Nothing helps with that more than laughing, so thanks. You're better than morphine or percocet.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
38. aw, thanks so much lefty.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 09:05 AM
Jul 2012

it's a beautiful sunny not humid day here. I mended fences with my son this morning after we got in a nasty fight about my refusing to use a fentanyl patch. I'm going to try and have a good day. Hope yours is lovely.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
40. Glad you mended fences
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 09:16 AM
Jul 2012

I recently lost my dad and am stressing to everyone I know they shouldn't let the everyday trevails get in the way of family because you never know how long you're going to have them around. Not sure what that patch does but if it's for pain, please use it, that's what it's for and nobody should live with pain. And a day without humidity!!! A real gift.

Puglover

(16,380 posts)
35. Trust me it'll be Portman.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 08:10 AM
Jul 2012

Why? Because I really really really want it to be T Paw or Jindal. Both would make comedy gold.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
39. really not much of a limb since he is basically one of the main contenders in media speculation.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 09:06 AM
Jul 2012
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