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sarisataka

(18,483 posts)
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:24 PM Nov 2017

Papa John's says NFL protests are hurting sales

Papa John's says NFL protests are hurting sales


Papa John's is blaming the NFL for hitting its bottom line.

The pizza company, an official sponsor of the league, sliced its sales and profit forecasts on Tuesday. And Papa John's founder and CEO John Schnatter wasn't shy about who he thinks is to blame: Commissioner Roger Goodell.

"Leadership starts at the top, and this is an example of poor leadership," Schnatter said on a conference call with investors Wednesday. "The NFL has hurt Papa John's shareholders."

NFL ratings, like the rest of network television, are in a slump. Through Week 7, NFL viewership is down 5% overall from the same point last year.

http://money.cnn.com/2017/11/01/media/nfl-papa-johns-protests/index.html

Alternate theory- the pizza sucks
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Papa John's says NFL protests are hurting sales (Original Post) sarisataka Nov 2017 OP
Every time "Papa John" opens his mouth, I vow to never buy his crappy pizza. Coventina Nov 2017 #1
The problem is I have never purchased one of his shitty ass pizzas, so I'm not hurting him by Neema Nov 2017 #12
Same here. Coventina Nov 2017 #15
Yeah but they don't know that! Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #57
Never have; never will. n/t hlthe2b Nov 2017 #16
YOU SAID IT!!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #38
Nothing kills an appetite like racism C_U_L8R Nov 2017 #2
Yeah says the guy who denies his employees insurance and lives in a castle. Initech Nov 2017 #3
"14 cents per pizza," he said. Iggo Nov 2017 #42
Then he should run for office, the deplorables would love him. Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #52
No the pizza sucks Watchfoxheadexplodes Nov 2017 #4
And too damn much. Sauce, that is. maveric Nov 2017 #24
Hmm . . . tough call hatrack Nov 2017 #5
"Alternate theory- the pizza sucks" left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #6
Anyone who can live a whorishly opulent lifestyle... demmiblue Nov 2017 #7
BIIIINNGOOOO!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #41
Isn't he the one who said he had to raise prices because of Obamacare? brush Nov 2017 #8
Yes. He said Obamacare would add $0.18 to every Pizza. What an asshole and yes their Pizza sucks Hassin Bin Sober Nov 2017 #49
an extra benefit of protesting!!!! spanone Nov 2017 #9
Crap pizza and crappier politics HAB911 Nov 2017 #10
Occam's Razor, John: Maybe your pizza is shit... Raster Nov 2017 #28
hahaha... yesss!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #40
Hmmm, something seems to be missing from that article. What can it be??? Bleacher Creature Nov 2017 #11
Maybe if the pizza wasn't garbage??? Yuck. Sad! NRaleighLiberal Nov 2017 #13
Papa John's Pizza is DIAHRREHA on Steriods. JanetLovesObama Nov 2017 #14
one wonders what prompted you to eat it the second time ProfessorPlum Nov 2017 #20
Good. Fuck you, Papa John. (n/t) Iggo Nov 2017 #17
They lost all of my sales when they closed the local franchise store Blue_Adept Nov 2017 #18
Looking at online reviews, the pizza is crap followed by crappy customer service, but procon Nov 2017 #19
We had Papa John's pizza last night zeusdogmom Nov 2017 #21
Eat a dick, Romney-supporting Trumpista un-American. HughBeaumont Nov 2017 #22
I'm going with the alternate theory. GoCubsGo Nov 2017 #23
So? ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #25
Bullshit (nt) matt819 Nov 2017 #26
Bad pizza always hurts sales..... BlueJac Nov 2017 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author WinkyDink Nov 2017 #29
It isn't the protests that are hurting Papa John's sales meow2u3 Nov 2017 #30
And murder is hurting the victims' appetites elias7 Nov 2017 #31
maybe because of 3 things Botany Nov 2017 #32
Dang...you beat my too it on the Peyton Manning thing. iscooterliberally Nov 2017 #34
Maybe if he re-ran those Peyton Manning commercials that might help? iscooterliberally Nov 2017 #33
I thought it was because his pizza was nastier than Little Ceaser, Pizza Hut and Dominos combined. haele Nov 2017 #35
The poor quality of his product is finally catching up with him. 2Legit Nov 2017 #36
Right-winger follows Trump's lead blaming everyone but himself...n/m bagelsforbreakfast Nov 2017 #37
TFB!! InAbLuEsTaTe Nov 2017 #39
I work for a VERY LARGE CORPORATION with major sponsorship ties to the NFL - bullwinkle428 Nov 2017 #43
FFS his spokesperson is PEYTON FREAKING MANNING Blue Owl Nov 2017 #44
Ever since he spoke out against minimum wage... Kleveland Nov 2017 #45
Hmph. I didn't know Goodall owned Papa John's RandomAccess Nov 2017 #46
Trust me, I'm italian. The problem is that porcherie Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #47
Try making better pizza, you idiot! MineralMan Nov 2017 #48
The "anthem controversy" didn't really blow up until Trump's speech on September 22. onenote Nov 2017 #50
I like their pizza, but the prices are much higher LanternWaste Nov 2017 #51
I have a feeling we could organize a better boycott if Goodell says the players must stand... HopeAgain Nov 2017 #53
Well, since the owner of Papa Johns is a right wing nut we quit eating there. redstatebluegirl Nov 2017 #54
what a feeble excuse! viewership is down all of 5 measly percent, and football is hardly the only unblock Nov 2017 #55
Thought they went bankrupt cuz Obamacare? lunasun Nov 2017 #56
Maybe Peyton Manning can come through for them in the clutch underpants Nov 2017 #58
Its his terrible pizza not the NFL FloridaBlues Nov 2017 #59
Im sure it has nothing to do with his shitty Pizza Thrill Nov 2017 #60
No John. It's the shitty pizza and your attitude about those who work for you. maveric Nov 2017 #61
Pizza sales are more important than black folks getting killed by cops? Blue_Tires Nov 2017 #62
Damn and I thought it was shitty pizza. MyNameGoesHere Nov 2017 #63
877-547-PAPA (877-547-7272). Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #64
I think it's because there isn't nuff pics DashOneBravo Nov 2017 #65
It has got to be the NFL... Couldn't be that the pizza sucks. XRubicon Nov 2017 #66
Absolutely crappy pizza is hurting sales John. jalan48 Nov 2017 #67
Dantes,Indianola Ave Ave, Columbus Ohio irisblue Nov 2017 #68
The box is better than the pizza. Historic NY Nov 2017 #69
Shitty, expensive pizza hurts sales. roamer65 Nov 2017 #70

Coventina

(27,057 posts)
1. Every time "Papa John" opens his mouth, I vow to never buy his crappy pizza.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:26 PM
Nov 2017

That guy is nothing but a ball of hate.

Neema

(1,151 posts)
12. The problem is I have never purchased one of his shitty ass pizzas, so I'm not hurting him by
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:38 PM
Nov 2017

boycotting him. But I laugh all the same.

Coventina

(27,057 posts)
15. Same here.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:41 PM
Nov 2017

I think the only Papa John's pizza I've ever had has been when it's been served at work for some reason.

Initech

(100,038 posts)
3. Yeah says the guy who denies his employees insurance and lives in a castle.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:27 PM
Nov 2017

With a private golf course.

Iggo

(47,534 posts)
42. "14 cents per pizza," he said.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:33 PM
Nov 2017

We said, "Deal!"

He said, "No wait a second..."

So yeah, fuck him.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
52. Then he should run for office, the deplorables would love him.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:41 PM
Nov 2017

They love politicians who destroy working people.

They must.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
6. "Alternate theory- the pizza sucks"
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:35 PM
Nov 2017

The last time I ordered a Papa John's pizza there was so few toppings (sausage and pepperoni) I thought they forgot to put them on.
I finally found a few shreds.

demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
7. Anyone who can live a whorishly opulent lifestyle...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:35 PM
Nov 2017

and not provide for the basic needs of their employees is a complete arsehole.

brush

(53,741 posts)
8. Isn't he the one who said he had to raise prices because of Obamacare?
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:36 PM
Nov 2017

If his sales are off and his "shareholders are suffering" it's because a-holeness, obvious racism towards O, and his bad pizza.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
28. Occam's Razor, John: Maybe your pizza is shit...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:13 PM
Nov 2017

...and maybe your act is wearing just a tad too thin. Just a thought.

Bleacher Creature

(11,252 posts)
11. Hmmm, something seems to be missing from that article. What can it be???
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:37 PM
Nov 2017

How about any discussion at all explaining the reason why NFL players are protesting.

Seriously, people are dying on a near routine basis and Papa John, who has always been a massive jerk (Google his past statements on Obamacare) thinks we should be worried about sales figures? And by the way, his pizza is trash.

 

JanetLovesObama

(548 posts)
14. Papa John's Pizza is DIAHRREHA on Steriods.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:40 PM
Nov 2017

I almost died after eating that filthy garbage. Not once but twice.

ProfessorPlum

(11,253 posts)
20. one wonders what prompted you to eat it the second time
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:01 PM
Nov 2017

after your first near death experience.

but, agree, it is bad pizza

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
18. They lost all of my sales when they closed the local franchise store
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:52 PM
Nov 2017

I know lots of people hate it (hell, lots of people hate lots of thing, including a number of things I like) but I liked their pizza, they ran some great coupon deals, and the local franchise was fantastic in good delivery times and piping hot pizza.

But y'all can't get my money if you close down the store.

procon

(15,805 posts)
19. Looking at online reviews, the pizza is crap followed by crappy customer service, but
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 01:59 PM
Nov 2017

nothing mentioned about the NFL. Looks like another lying liar to me.

zeusdogmom

(987 posts)
21. We had Papa John's pizza last night
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:01 PM
Nov 2017

night at a Halloween party. Pretty much lacking flavor. There are so many really good tasting pizzas available these days - both chain and indies. No excuse for anyone to buy the Papa John s***. But I wasn't hosting so I had no say in the matter.

Hopefully Papa John's lousy reputation is beginning to catch up with him.

FWIW - lots of pizza left over, not much of anything else. I took a couple of pieces home for Zeus Dog. Please, no one turn me in for animal abuse. He ate one piece and left the other. Keep in mind he is a Labrador retriever. They eat any and everything!

edited for typo

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
22. Eat a dick, Romney-supporting Trumpista un-American.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:03 PM
Nov 2017

No quarter for assholes who think Pre-existing condition allowance is an inconvenience to his profit margin.

Response to sarisataka (Original post)

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
30. It isn't the protests that are hurting Papa John's sales
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:14 PM
Nov 2017

It's the crap that tries to pass for pizza! I wouldn't touch those sauce-coated frisbees if it were the last food on earth. And he's blaming NFL protests for his pizza shit?
You want real pizza? Go to your mom-and-pop pizzerias!

elias7

(3,991 posts)
31. And murder is hurting the victims' appetites
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:18 PM
Nov 2017

"This is an example of poor leadership". I wonder what he thinks good leadership would look like...

Botany

(70,447 posts)
32. maybe because of 3 things
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:18 PM
Nov 2017

1) The pizza sucks

b) The owner is an asshole

iii) Too many Payton Manning commercials

******

Besides i have some wonderful local pizza place to go to.

https://www.dantespizzainc.com/reviews

haele

(12,640 posts)
35. I thought it was because his pizza was nastier than Little Ceaser, Pizza Hut and Dominos combined.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:19 PM
Nov 2017

I'd rather have any of the three - heck, I'd rather have Chuck E Cheez's Pizza before I get Papa John's.

What really frosts me is there was a Pappa John's pizzeria in Seattle that was terrific - and they sponsored the boy's Soccer team my dad coached for my brother. The Pappa John Pirahnas. I mix the two up sometimes in my old age, hoping Pappa John's went national like Red Robin did.

Haele

bullwinkle428

(20,628 posts)
43. I work for a VERY LARGE CORPORATION with major sponsorship ties to the NFL -
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 02:35 PM
Nov 2017

our CEO did a video conference recently, and brought this very subject up!

He said that he was receiving e-mails that roughly ran 50/50 regarding feelings toward the protesting players, so he stated that there are no changes in the works regarding the current levels of sponsorship and promotion associated with the NFL.

Couldn't agree more regarding Papa John's - our business is NOT suffering, so maybe Pizza Boy needs to look at the product going out his door!

Kleveland

(1,257 posts)
45. Ever since he spoke out against minimum wage...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:31 PM
Nov 2017

I knew he was a dick.

Has commercials on NFL giving away millions in pizza, and he can't pay a decent wage?

Fuck him and his tasteless pizza.

We steer all of our friends, and anyone we meet away from that cardboard crap.

Better Idiots, better who-needs-ya', Papa Schwantz!!

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
46. Hmph. I didn't know Goodall owned Papa John's
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:32 PM
Nov 2017

/sarcasm

This is utterly preposterous. Leaves my mouth open. The ultimate in blame-shifting and scapegoating, AFAIC.

"Leadership starts at the top, and this is an example of poor leadership,"

And since when did Goodall become the "leader" of Papa John's?

I'm gonna need some time to pry my jaw up off the floor.

MineralMan

(146,254 posts)
48. Try making better pizza, you idiot!
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:34 PM
Nov 2017

Last one I had sucked, so I don't patronize your joint any more.

Don't blame the NFL. Blame your crappy product.

Thanks for your attention.

onenote

(42,585 posts)
50. The "anthem controversy" didn't really blow up until Trump's speech on September 22.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:38 PM
Nov 2017

Papa John's quarterly results cover the period July1 through September 30.

So exactly one Sunday of football (and two midweek games) occurred after the controversy blew up.

Methinks Papa John's is trying to make excuses for a sales drop that probably started long before the football season.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
51. I like their pizza, but the prices are much higher
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:41 PM
Nov 2017

I like their pizza (my admittedly simple palette doesn't often take cues from my bias), but the prices are much higher than the small shop around the corner I frequent-- bigger pizzas, more olives and pepperoni, and the Most Attractive Woman in the World as my usual delivery driver.

HopeAgain

(4,407 posts)
53. I have a feeling we could organize a better boycott if Goodell says the players must stand...
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:42 PM
Nov 2017

Hurt him more than 5%, we will.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
54. Well, since the owner of Papa Johns is a right wing nut we quit eating there.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:44 PM
Nov 2017

I haven't had one since Romney. He is also a big game hunter, into killing beautiful animals. Two reasons not to spend money there. I think those things have more to do with his drop in sales than the NFL. It is just a way for him to suck up to his right wing buddies.

unblock

(52,116 posts)
55. what a feeble excuse! viewership is down all of 5 measly percent, and football is hardly the only
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 03:46 PM
Nov 2017

time people eat pizza!

and when people eat pizza, how many really say, oh wait, we have to eat "the official sponsor of the nfl" pizza??

ok, i get that their advertising is reaching slightly fewer people, but c'mon, really?

maveric

(16,445 posts)
61. No John. It's the shitty pizza and your attitude about those who work for you.
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 04:34 PM
Nov 2017

Didn't he come out with a "should be happy they have a job" reference a couple of years back?

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
65. I think it's because there isn't nuff pics
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 07:46 PM
Nov 2017

Of the owner when it's delivered. You get like six different photos of him. Only the garlic butter container didn't have one. Lol

irisblue

(32,929 posts)
68. Dantes,Indianola Ave Ave, Columbus Ohio
Wed Nov 1, 2017, 08:00 PM
Nov 2017

For those poor people who don't know what in house sausage & pepperoni taste like.
You can thank me later.

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