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What is the definition of middle class?? (Original Post) Angry Dragon Nov 2017 OP
you have to work for a living, but you can still take a vacation once in a while Skittles Nov 2017 #1
thanks for the answer but no help Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #2
Debt maveric Nov 2017 #3
that is no help Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #4
Depends where you live taught_me_patience Nov 2017 #5
200,000 would put you in the top 10% Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #7
So what... that's a household of two middle-managers taught_me_patience Nov 2017 #9
$350k is a nearly the 1% BainsBane Nov 2017 #11
350k in very expensive cities is not fucking rich n/t taught_me_patience Nov 2017 #12
The 1% starts in the low $400s BainsBane Nov 2017 #14
it certainly is fucking rich, i'm in Los Angeles and could live VERY WELL with that amount JI7 Nov 2017 #21
To me it means you may own a home...you earn a good living and have disposable Kirk Lover Nov 2017 #6
sounds like at least the top 10% Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #8
My definition BainsBane Nov 2017 #10
"Are You in America's Middle Class?" left-of-center2012 Nov 2017 #13
say from $42,000 to $120,000 Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #16
It's very hard to use that definition in major cities like LA, NY, or Chicago. Tatiana Nov 2017 #17
that just seems insane Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #18
It is. Tatiana Nov 2017 #19
What my family used to be.... Pachamama Nov 2017 #15
Are you seriously asking the question ProudLib72 Nov 2017 #20
The point I was trying to make is that no one really knows what the middle class is Angry Dragon Nov 2017 #22
Everyone from a very little bit above you to the people one thinks are in poverty. Thor_MN Nov 2017 #23
 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
5. Depends where you live
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:38 PM
Nov 2017

For most of America - household income of 40-200k
For expensive areas of America - household income of 60-350k

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
14. The 1% starts in the low $400s
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 09:07 PM
Nov 2017

People don’t often see themselves as wealthy, but the fact is that income is higher than at least 98% of Americans. Low and middle income people do live in cities like NY and LA. How they live, however, is very different from those in the upper incomes.

A household income of $100k is the top 99.7% of global incomes and top 23% of US incomes. People in the upper 20-1% may not feel affluent, but in comparative terms they are.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
21. it certainly is fucking rich, i'm in Los Angeles and could live VERY WELL with that amount
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:57 AM
Nov 2017

better than most people who live here if i had that much.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
6. To me it means you may own a home...you earn a good living and have disposable
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:40 PM
Nov 2017

income. You have a savings account that covers expenses for 6 months or so. You probably also have investments going.

BainsBane

(53,031 posts)
10. My definition
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:48 PM
Nov 2017

Is a household income somewhere around the median, which in 2016 was $59K, up from $47k a couple of years ago.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
13. "Are You in America's Middle Class?"
Thu Nov 2, 2017, 08:52 PM
Nov 2017
What Is Considered Middle Class?

"Middle-class income is between 67 percent and 200 percent of the average median income.
The U.S. Census Bureau reported that the average median income was $59,036 per household in 2016."

You do the math.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
16. say from $42,000 to $120,000
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:05 AM
Nov 2017

according to the article

Using the Pew Research percentages, that means households making less than $39,554 are low income. Households earning at least $118,072 are high income.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
17. It's very hard to use that definition in major cities like LA, NY, or Chicago.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:37 AM
Nov 2017

$120,000/yr. barely gets you food and decent housing in Chicago. Our housing payment alone was $40K /yr. And that is before all the taxes.

Tatiana

(14,167 posts)
19. It is.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:47 AM
Nov 2017

We gave up a vehicle and many other things and still struggled to make ends meet with 2 children. Eventually decided to move. Now I have to offer financial support to my mother with the increased City of Chicago property and county taxes.

However, the same amount of money in many regions of Texas will allow you purchase a home and have a very decent standard of living.

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
20. Are you seriously asking the question
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:51 AM
Nov 2017

Or are you trying to make the point that the middle class is disappearing?

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
22. The point I was trying to make is that no one really knows what the middle class is
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 12:59 AM
Nov 2017

especially our elected officials
I do not know if the middle class is disappearing but it is harder to find
In my youth it seemed that middle class was defined by a union job

 

Thor_MN

(11,843 posts)
23. Everyone from a very little bit above you to the people one thinks are in poverty.
Fri Nov 3, 2017, 01:13 AM
Nov 2017

No matter how little people have, some think they are on the upper side of middle class, about to bust into the big time. And they want them their tax cuts. Fuck them lazy poor bastards and those richy riches, Trump's gonna give me more money!!1!

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