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bigtree

(85,986 posts)
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 08:57 AM Nov 2017

I can't see where discussions about the 2016 campaign affect turnout

...all the talk about 'Dems infighting' hurting chances in upcoming elections sounds just as contrived and overblown as any of the party controversies arising in the past month.

Having failed attracting enough attention to their hyping of campaign minutia, the media is trying to represent our voters as myopic backbiters still fighting the last presidential primary, unable to distinguish our own daily struggles from the politics they're exploiting.

On the issues which concern and compel us to participate in the political system, Democrats are united. There is no debate within our party about defending the gains made under Pres. Obama from the determined, craven republican assault on our democracy and on the protections Americans expect from their government.

Voters haven't lost sight of the clear and present danger of Trump, just because there's a tiff over a passage in a book. It's nonsense to even imagine there's to be some blowback at the polls because of fundraising agreements in a defunct primary. But that's the narrative the media have fallen back on, hoping it's their word to voter's ears in the upcoming contests.

Most politics is local, but republicans are still united behind this destructive and dangerous presidency. That's a clear target for our Democratic opposition. Fear and anger at that state of affairs is what's going to be foremost in voters' minds when they go to the polls, not manufactured pique over some disavowed memo at the DNC.

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I can't see where discussions about the 2016 campaign affect turnout (Original Post) bigtree Nov 2017 OP
Look around you at groups like our revolution...they hate Democrats... the 16 thing Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #1
the infighting is overblown bigtree Nov 2017 #3
Turnout isn't final yet crazycatlady Nov 2017 #2

Demsrule86

(68,543 posts)
1. Look around you at groups like our revolution...they hate Democrats... the 16 thing
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:28 AM
Nov 2017

causes people who supported sanders to hate the Party which will dampen Democratic turnout in 18 and maybe 20 causing us to lose one or two very important elections...you see it here. I have seen a rash of people saying they could vote for GOP's or GOP leaning independents if they shared their views.... that is not acceptable and shows the damage 16 did to our party. We either fix it or we lose...and infighting in the party dampens enthusiasm...makes the party's seem the same...and they are not. We better become loyal Democrats or the GOP gets the courts for a generation and then it matters not who is elected. The progressive movement is done and governance is by judicial fiat.

bigtree

(85,986 posts)
3. the infighting is overblown
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 10:14 AM
Nov 2017

...magnified in this insular forum and disproportionately amplified by the press.

Voters will be compelled to the polls because of their individual concerns and needs, not over manufactured party tiffles.

The republican party has completely abandoned any pretense of 'sharing our views'.

crazycatlady

(4,492 posts)
2. Turnout isn't final yet
Sat Nov 4, 2017, 09:31 AM
Nov 2017

ANd won't be known until it is released.

Even then, every state, county, or municipality has different formats of reporting their election results. Some do not show turnout or total registered voters in the precinct.

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