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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThe role of Semion Mogilevich. I think this is important.
This is a desperately terrifying story about who is now running the USA. I think it's true - it's all well-sourced journalism. I highly recommend it.
This is not about Dems vs. Repukes any more. This is about the USA being taken over by the Russian mob under Semion Mogilevich. And the mob has a 22 year head start.
There is a man who controls our President. And his name is not Vladimir Putin.
On December 31, 1999, when Vladimir Putin was first elected, this Don controlled the President of Russia. Litvinenko committed his life thereafter to bringing him down.
Both Bob Levinson and Alexander Litvinenko hunted the most brilliant, dangerous, powerful, criminal mastermind the world has ever seen.
This is not hyperbole. This is SEMION MOGILEVICH.
Remember what happened to Litvinenko. This is why Mueller's investigation is looking less and less like a counterintelligence investigation, and more like a mob investigation. It looks like the highest levels of the US government are now controlled by the Russian mob.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)I was on the way to Qingdao.
Glad you posted it.
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The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Not.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Also, the stuff i saw was miniscule compared to the detail laid out here.
Just some names.. outline....i mean i was sitting waiting for a flight...
But when i saw your post i remembered it...
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)that this whole nightmare is brought to us by Semion Mogilevich. Full stop.
Jay is an immaculate, detailed, passionate researcher, along with his other compatriots.
Link to tweet
Thanks, jackalope -
Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)Madam45for2923
(7,178 posts)The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)The USA is in very deep shit. The more people focus on Donna Brazile, the deeper the country sinks.
Serious existential danger time. If I was a believer I'd say pray for Mueller and Schneiderman. Those two guys are up against the combined might of Russian and global organized crime.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)is absolutely important. And one need't go to a single source because the subject and its terrifying relevance has been researched and discussed at a number of venues.
H2O man had a thought provoking post up earlier. In it, he talked abut the prosecutorial method of finding the weak spots, the keys as a legal investigation evolves into indictments and charges
This is not unlike how mobsters go about finding front men--professionals, businessmen, politicians--as a cover for their criminal enterprises. They look for people with weaknesses/vulnerabilities, they apply leverage (seduce/threaten), and then they squeeze and squeeze and squeeze some more. If this is how Mueller and his team are progressing (and I've read this elsewhere) then they're turning the tables on the perpetrators, using that same method to zero in on the most vulnerable to exert leverage, turn state evidence. It's a fight fire with fire approach. And it's how I understand legal teams traditionally go after Mob Families.
It's been known for well over a decade+ that the Russian mob had moved beyond Russian borders, that they saw the US as a rich, tempting feeding ground. Manafort was under surveillance by the FBI long before he joined the Trump campaign. His weakness from the mob's perspective was probably his ability to rack up debt and who knows what unseemly appetites a Paul Manafort might have? And gee, who else has a debt/bankruptcy problem? None other than Donald J. Trump who has managed to work with Russian-linked 'entrepreneurs'--think Felix Sater, one of many--building casinos and hotels, and then standing back as the businesses go belly-up. But not before Trump has siphoned millions of the business assets for himself and perhaps his conspiring friends who need their dirty money washed. And remember Trump has flatly said he's NEVER been involved with the Russians.
I sense that when this ugliness fully breaks open, we're going to be shocked by the true nature of what the Trump/Russia link really means, that it goes way beyond the election of 2016 (as bad as that was) into something far more sinister and dark. There are lots of links out there. Before anyone dismisses the subject as mere conspiracy theory, you should read up, look at the Mob/Trump Dynasty's history. It's been a long, continuous relationship. And frankly, it's horrifying because the tendrils are everywhere. Something like a cancer. Imagine that!
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)I feel like Mueller and Schneiderman are trying to disarm a hydrogen bomb.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)I fear you're right. And it's terrifying.
oldtime dfl_er
(6,931 posts)won't let me in. Can someone summarize?
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)My Bitdefender certainly has no problem with it.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)MelissaB
(16,420 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)here:
http://www.citjourno.org/page-1
It explains a lot of questions I had about Trump's hotel deals. They all had a silent partner, who, when looked at closely, was mob related. Not necessarily the russian/American mob, but sometimes eastern Europ, or twice, Asian.
When you remember 1998 Russian economy crash, it is about that time that Trump started laundering money by quickly building the hotels all over the place.A few years after the condos and whatever had been sold, some of the hotels went bankrupt. In a couple of cases, Trump, thru an LLC, would then buy them back!
The only way that made sense, esp. in the rapid timing of it all, was if money laundering was going on.
the guy who died of polonium poising, had ratted on the Russian mob, then fled to London where he thought he would be safe.
Manfort is in trouble. If he squeals, or even if THEY think he squealed, he will given a Russian heart attack.
Many of the dead Russians involved in the Trump candidacy were mob hits.
The way this site has put together information makes it hard to think of any other situation that makes as much sense.
Nitram
(22,781 posts)I'll give you points for originality.
Yes, Donnie and Pootie are involved with Russian gangsters. Up to their necks. No, they haven't infiltrated the US government to the point where they are "running" the government. If they were, Mueller's team would never have been formed in the first place. You greatly underestimate the resilience of the US government.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Faith is such a comfort in times like these.
Nitram
(22,781 posts)I do indeed have faith in Mueller's team of experts, and the judges who will hold Trump in check long enough for Mueller to finish his work.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)if the investigation were even convened at all.
Taking things to 'a single brutal foreign mobster is controlling our government' is taking things a bit far imho.
Now, if this dude also had the aid of the Kochs and Mercers and Waltons and Jaime Dimon's of the world ...
Nitram
(22,781 posts)They would never cede control to a "single brutal foreign mobster." They want to be the "single brutal foreign mobster," and they would not risk losing control to such an entity. They would not risk their fortune and power just to gain assistance from such an entity.
chimpymustgo
(12,774 posts)nt
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)Nitram
(22,781 posts)Gosh, now I'm scared!
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)PatrickforO
(14,570 posts)No surprise.
Treason and organized crime.
BadGimp
(4,013 posts)Absolutely no Alexa data.
https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/citjourno.org#trafficstats
SimilarWeb has nothing
Archive.org/The WayBackMachine has nothing except a 11/4/2017 update
http://web.archive.org/web/*/citjourno.org
Read this nonsense at your own peril imo
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)The contributing journos have been around for a while, and are well known in the citizen journalist community. It's legit.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)I don't like the site either but just Google for info. It is NOT nonsense.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)There are literally hundreds of links to official and mainstream sources organized by both timeline and person. Every twist and turn they describe is sourced.
http://www.citjourno.org/bib
http://www.citjourno.org/bibpeople
Duppers
(28,117 posts)My phone blocked it before. That was my gripe.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Donald Trump And The Felon: Inside His Business Dealings With A Mob-Connected Hustler
https://www.forbes.com/sites/richardbehar/2016/10/03/donald-trump-and-the-felon-inside-his-business-dealings-with-a-mob-connected-hustler/#1bafe37c2282Sponsored
That would not bode well for the Donald
Btw, how did the Sater link alone not sink his campaign???
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)that was formed to pass along money.
The Russian Mafia of today is very clever in use of lawyers and lots of LLC companies to pass money along, and to hide behind.
Sater also goes way back, 30 years or so, with Manafort and Trump. There are pics and articles.
Sater also has been known, in the past, to rat out his companions. Surprised he is still alive.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)Btw, for those queasy about the original site, check here:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2017/07/21/craig_unger_donald_trump_would_not_be_president_without_the_russian_mafia.html
or here
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
or do your own research. It's not like the information is hidden in a secret vault. It's just not been given attention. The big question:
Why the Hell Not???
H2O Man
(73,528 posts)It is indeed a RICO case. Thank you for this.
NBachers
(17,098 posts)Lincoln's Bible is about. I get the impression that I should see something more than I do about Lincoln's Bible.
Meanwhile: Look back to the destabilization of the USSR when it fell apart. It appeared, for a short while, like a Russian Spring may develop into a nation of free expression and citizen businesses. We've seen, unfortunately, how Russia got taken over by political mob terrorists and launched itself into a worldwide crime syndicate. Unstoppable, in the open, and worse than anything SPECTRE could ever dream of.
In reading Poke the Bear, I drew parallels to Russia's destabilization, and the obvious sabotage that's being directed at every department and bureau of the United States. As our democracy and social order break down, it creates the opportunity for the Russian crime syndicates, with help from traitors within, to plunder and siphon off our lives and our national treasure.
The Republican Party is frantically working to explode our democracy and social order, and blast our national treasure to the mob oligarchs. We aren't just collateral damage; we're lives to be harvested.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)In 1998 The Russian oligarchs got a lot of practice at siphoning huge wealth out of a collapsing society. It looks like they're trying to recreate those conditions in the US, for the same purpose.
These guys are the real Vampire Squids.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)The parallels aren't exact of course. But it's worth noting that a weak leader is essential to creating a severe national financial crisis that opens the doors to large-scale exploitation by organized crime. That's what happened in 1998 in Russia, where these senior economic mobsters got their training in where to jam their blood funnels.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Russian_financial_crisis
The same players seem to be trying to create similar conditions in the US. Pray for the safety of Mueller and Schneiderman, and spread the truth.
The_jackalope
(1,660 posts)To soften it up for the coming economectomy.
After the US being the Shock Doctrine perpetrator for so long, it looks like the Russians figure it's now America's turn in the barrel.