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drray23

(7,627 posts)
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 10:39 PM Nov 2017

Trump jr is cooked

The russian lawyer is saying that when the meeting ended, Trump jr told her that if they (Trump) come to power they will see what they can do about the magnitsky act. Basically a flagrant case of collusion.
She is ready to testify to congress and Mueller under oath.

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Trump jr is cooked (Original Post) drray23 Nov 2017 OP
Well done, just the way his father likes it, I hope. greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #1
No. She is a SPY who works for Putin. We cannot believe a word she says. american_ideals Nov 2017 #2
Why would Putin greymattermom Nov 2017 #4
He's putting the squeeze on Trump.. HipChick Nov 2017 #6
Putin wants to cloud facts so Americans don't know what to believe american_ideals Nov 2017 #7
there will be some baiting and dead ends and distracitons certainot Nov 2017 #21
Thanks for those two links. pangaia Nov 2017 #22
It serves his objectives. Xolodno Nov 2017 #11
Obviously, there was intent to collude, which DTJ admitted. That doesn't mean a Russian surrogate Alice11111 Nov 2017 #5
well the thing is, mueller already is putting the squeeze drray23 Nov 2017 #10
I like that...but...why would Russia side Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2017 #18
To create chaos. mac56 Nov 2017 #23
Guess they could always say Trump asked Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2017 #25
Wonder what her evidence is? lindysalsagal Nov 2017 #17
then so is junior spanone Nov 2017 #26
Different. The lawyer works for Putin. Jr is an agent of Russia. american_ideals Nov 2017 #30
All parties involved get the red out Nov 2017 #27
I hope Jr is cooked very well done..5 - 10 years in jail.. Stuart G Nov 2017 #3
mueller is never going to pin his hopes on a russian spy Takket Nov 2017 #8
he does not need to use her in court. drray23 Nov 2017 #12
He's already got Jr's email saying "I love it" to the Russian promise of dirt on Clinton. brush Nov 2017 #15
No he won't. But if she knows her spy craft, she would have recorded it. nt Kahuna7 Nov 2017 #28
She keeps changing her story. nocalflea Nov 2017 #9
Wouldnt this be a violation of the Logan act? cstanleytech Nov 2017 #13
I think it's a trap -- for us. pnwmom Nov 2017 #14
Yeah.... I'm very suspicious of her. NT Adrahil Nov 2017 #20
Flynn and Kushner are next. roamer65 Nov 2017 #16
I think Mueller will lean on Manafort.... Adrahil Nov 2017 #19
They can always do a petrodollar money-laundering end-run around the Magnitsky Act... CousinIT Nov 2017 #24
The entire clan and administration is toast. democratisphere Nov 2017 #29

Xolodno

(6,390 posts)
11. It serves his objectives.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:15 PM
Nov 2017

The more chaotic the US Government is, the less it can focus on matters abroad. Particularly when Russia is advancing its agenda.

Putin was always going to leave Trump hung out to dry, he was probably counting on it. He had no delusions that this scheme would eventually see the light of day, but the damage will be done and lasting.

Alice11111

(5,730 posts)
5. Obviously, there was intent to collude, which DTJ admitted. That doesn't mean a Russian surrogate
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:03 PM
Nov 2017

Is telling the truth though. Let's stick to provable facts

drray23

(7,627 posts)
10. well the thing is, mueller already is putting the squeeze
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:15 PM
Nov 2017

on others who were in that meeting like manafort. It may just be something Mueller already knows. We should also consider the possibility that indeed Putin is involved and want to stir the pot. Getting a US president impeached would be further success in his goal to spread chaos. Maybe he realized Trump is too unreliable or dumb to manipulate and he has decided to cash his chips.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
25. Guess they could always say Trump asked
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:14 AM
Nov 2017

Them to hack and to participate so they did. Still would have to admit guilt which I still don't see them doing

american_ideals

(613 posts)
30. Different. The lawyer works for Putin. Jr is an agent of Russia.
Wed Nov 22, 2017, 10:30 PM
Nov 2017

Lawyer is probably FSB-trained.

Jr isn't actually trained by the FSB, he's just bought by them to sell out American democracy.

Put another way: the lawyer is a patriot, a Russian patriot. Jr is a traitor.

Stuart G

(38,420 posts)
3. I hope Jr is cooked very well done..5 - 10 years in jail..
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 10:57 PM
Nov 2017

He and .."the group of them" are so sure that they are going to get away with it all.. I sure hope that Mueller totally destroys that belief.

Takket

(21,563 posts)
8. mueller is never going to pin his hopes on a russian spy
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:09 PM
Nov 2017

when he moves on junior, and he will, i seriously doubt any "testimony" by the lawyer is ever even going to be entered into the record. Junior's lawyers would CRUSH her on credibility in an instant.

drray23

(7,627 posts)
12. he does not need to use her in court.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:18 PM
Nov 2017

he can cross check what she claims with other people who were in the meeting and are already squeezed like manafort. Its just one more thing he can use to break the other protagonists.

nocalflea

(1,387 posts)
9. She keeps changing her story.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:12 PM
Nov 2017

She's good at muddying things up.
I'm wary of anything this women says or testifies to, or her intent. I believe that's the purpose of her continued public statements.

Hopefully, the meeting was picked up by electronic-surveillance of Manafort or maybe even the lawyer and one of her compatriots.

I'll wait for the special counsel to weigh-in.



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pnwmom

(108,977 posts)
14. I think it's a trap -- for us.
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:22 PM
Nov 2017

She's demanding a chance to speak in public. In public she'll deny everything, for the record, in sworn testimony. She'll say that the reporter got it wrong.

DON'T TRUST HER.

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
19. I think Mueller will lean on Manafort....
Mon Nov 6, 2017, 11:35 PM
Nov 2017

to get his info on this.

Manafort is facing serious time. I think Mueller has a lot of leverage. We'll see, I guess.

democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
29. The entire clan and administration is toast.
Tue Nov 7, 2017, 09:58 AM
Nov 2017

The absolute arrogance and sense of privilege is mind blowing.

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