Not another Batman movie.

[ThatsMyBarack]

Seriously, there's just no creativity in Hollywood anymore--just sequel after sequel after sequel, and they are all overrated and overhyped.

Same thing with the Spiderman movies that get cranked out one after the other.

What is the big deal?

[Enrique]

1. same with vampire movies

imho

[KurtNYC]

2. Dark Knight did $1 bil

Transformers did $1.1 bil
Spiderman 3 $900 mil

that's the big deal and I think there is more variety than ever in media; 72 hours of video are uploaded to YouTube every minute.

[Curtland1015]

3. These movies make a ton. Plus, a lot of the time...

...there are contract issues. "If this company doesn't make a Spiderman movie in a five year span then they lose the right" kind of things.

[Comrade_McKenzie]

4. I was looking forward to the movie.

Now there's a dark cloud hanging over it. I might have to wait for the DVD.

[Marrah_G]

5. Everyone has different tastes

[frazzled]

6. Here's the deal

These franchise movies are in large part made to make money in the global market, the biggest chunk of which is China. The studios make most of their money outside of the U.S., and China and other countries are the biggest emerging markets. The movies that get into these markets (past the censors) and make the most money are these franchises that have tons of special effects--and violence. That's what people are buying, apparently, in Beijing.

There was a long NPR story on this just this past week.

I detest all of this, which is why I so rarely go to these commercial films. I saw the Dark Knight Batman film only because I wanted to see how they shot the architecture and streets in my home city, Chicago. I could barely sit through it: I was both bored and revolted, and would have left if my husband, son, and daughter-in-law had not wanted to stay.

[WilliamPitt]

7. Have you seen them?

They're very good.

[ThatsMyBarack]

13. They all look alike to me.

Good-looking good guy. Bad-looking bad guy. A couple of hours of computer effects, some shoot-em-up screaming, boy-girl kiss and it's over. So what else is new?

[WilliamPitt]

18. So that's a 'No'

Gotta love righeously uninformed opinions...the DU cottage industry.

[Initech]

8. The Dark Knight is one of the best super hero movies ever made.

Say what you want about Hollywood - but there is seriously no denying how great Heath Ledger's performance as the Joker really was. If you do then - why so serious?

[Angleae]

11. If that was one of the best I don't even want to think about one of the worst.

Honestly, I couldn't stand to finish watching Dark Knight.

[white_wolf]

16. What was bad about Ledger's acting?

If the movie was too dark, I understand. I just don't get how you can dismiss his acting as bad. He WAS the Joker in that role.

[ThatsMyBarack]

15. Jack Nicholson was better.

Sorry he's dead, but Heath Ledger was overrated (except in Brokeback Mountain).

[GarroHorus]

9. I LOVE the comic book franchises

I read comics as a kid during the Silver Age of comics, so these are nostalgic for me.

Plus, they are some of the most entertaining movies on the market.

[qazplm]

10. The last Batman was pretty darn creative

one of the best action/super hero movies of all time.

So...

[NashvilleLefty]

12. Because there are many things that have not been creatively explored.

Spiderman and Batman are both icons in the American Imagination with many sides to their psychology that have yet to be explored.

Look at Star Trek. There are so many franchises already. Yet, each of them has it's own message and it's own perspective. Yet, it was re-booted for a new Generation.

This is the evidence of a "classic" idea - that it can relate to numerous generations.

How many times has Romeo and Juliet been redone? Would you denigrate the creativity of, for instance, West Side Story because it was just a remake of a Shakespeare play?

Maybe you have no interest in seeing the new Batman movie, but that's no reason to denigrate the creativity involved in creating a new approach, a new perspective, and the psychology involved.

[white_wolf]

14. Ugh, this reminds me of that horrible Avengers thread we had awhile back.

I love comic books and I love good movies based on comic books. Amazing Spider-Man was a good movie, in my opinion. Andrew Garfield did a great job as Peter Parker and overall it was a lot better than Rami's campfest.

The Nolan trilogy is very well done, and how anyone can not like Ledger's performance as the Joker I'll never understand. It was great acting. I can understand not liking the Dark Knight, because it is very dark, but I don't see how so many people dismiss it and Ledger just because it is based on a comic book.

Comic books are the closest thing we as a culture have to myths, we aren't creating new religious myths anymore, for the most part. We are creating stories using mythological archetypes. Besides, a lot of people seem to miss the point of movies, entertainment. Sure, it's great when a movie has a message, but at the end of the day if I want to think about politics I'll read a book.

[alcibiades_mystery]

17. Why is it less creative to write a sequel?

Why can't Batman sequels sit alongside other films, like Moonrise Kingdom or Beasts of the Southern Wild (we're not CREATIVE anymore? Are you even serious?), and just be what it is.

Why do we have to have such cliched and uncreative posts, bemoaning for the millionth time our loss of creativity? Why?