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woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:04 AM Jul 2012

Why is Obama pushing Joe Lieberman's surveillance "cybersecurity" bill?

Seriously. How can ANY Democrat (Third Way excluded, for obvious reasons) stand by for this?

Or do we just put our fingers in our ears and sing LaLaLaLaLaLaLa?




Joe Lieberman trying to pass Cybersecurity Act of 2012. Please oppose.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002978169

Obama pens op-ed in all-out push for cybersecurity bill
http://thehill.com/blogs/hillicon-valley/technology/239141-obama-pens-op-ed-in-all-out-push-for-cybersecurity-bill


The denial must STOP. Wake the hell up, America.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=146626

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Why is Obama pushing Joe Lieberman's surveillance "cybersecurity" bill? (Original Post) woo me with science Jul 2012 OP
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woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
1. Hey, in case it helps,
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012
ROMNEY SUPPORTS THIS, TOO.

This should not be a partisan issue. This is about our rights to privacy and free expression as Americans.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
3. This
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:06 PM
Jul 2012

"Why is Obama pushing Joe Lieberman's surveillance 'cybersecurity' bill?"

...could be the reason, from the ACLU:

New Cybersecurity Amendments Unveiled to Address Privacy Concerns

By Michelle Richardson, Legislative Counsel, ACLU Washington Legislative Office

No cyber news is usually good news, but today is an exception. Senators have unveiled significant privacy amendments that will be incorporated into S. 2105, the Cybersecurity Act. Authored by Sens. Lieberman, Feinstein, Rockefeller and Collins, the bill provides comprehensive cybersecurity reform, including a new ‘information sharing’ program that permits companies to share internet info with each other and the government.

We’ve told you about the risks of information sharing in the past (hello, CISPA), and in fact have raised our concerns with this legislation in particular. But thanks in large part to ACLU members and activists who have logged tens of thousands contacts with Congress, we’ve made progress. Sens. Franken and Durbin and other privacy advocates have negotiated substantial changes that will:

  • Ensure that companies who share cybersecurity information with the government give it directly to civilian agencies, and not to military agencies like the National Security Agency. The single most important limitation on domestic cybersecurity programs is that they are civilian-run and do not turn the military loose on Americans and the internet.

  • Ensure that information shared under the program be “reasonably necessary” to describe a cybersecurity threat.

  • Restrict the government’s use of information it receives under the cyber info sharing authority so that it can be used only for actual cybersecurity purposes and to prosecute cyber crimes, protect people from imminent threat of death or physical harm, or protect children from serious threats.

  • Require annual reports from the Justice Department, Homeland Security, Defense and Intelligence Community Inspectors General that describe what information is received, who gets it, and what is done with it.

  • Allow individuals to sue the government if it intentionally or willfully violates the law.
- more -

http://www.aclu.org/blog/national-security-technology-and-liberty/new-cybersecurity-amendments-unveiled-address-privacy




woo me with science

(32,139 posts)
4. Keep watching.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 12:16 PM
Jul 2012

As usual, you leave out critical information.

1. The ACLU's support is tepid and reluctant at best. They explain clearly that they have opposed this bill all along but see it as a "train leaving the station," so they are forced to focus on amendments that will make it less pernicious.

2. The amendments which will help make this bill not quite as fascistic as it otherwise would be come solely as a result of activism on the part of ACLU and citizens concerned about privacy and expression rights. Obama has been pushing this bill since well before those amendments were added. http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2490-White-House-Indicates-Support-for-Cybersecurity-Bill-That-Includes-CISPA-Like-Language

3. The ACLU states clearly that amendments are also in the works to strip the bill of the privacy features that are being hailed now in the press, and given Obama's support for earlier versions of the bill, it is quite clear that he would have no problem with such amendments.

Citizens need to keep the heat on and oppose this disaster. The NSA has built a multi-billion-dollar surveillance center in Utah, and they intend to use it.

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