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Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:56 AM

Virginia House of Delegates still hangs in the balance


Figures current as of 10:30 AM ET on November 8.

Virginia House of Delegates
Party As of November 7, 2017 After November 7, 2017
Democratic Party 34 48
Republican Party 66 47
Too close to call - 5
Total 100 100

November 8, 10:30 AM ET: Five races remained too close to call. In District 27, Roxann Robinson (R) has a 124-vote lead over Larry Barnett (D). In District 28, Robert Thomas Jr. (R) has an 86-vote lead over Joshua Cole (D). In District 40, Donte Tanner (D) has a 68-vote lead over Tim Hugo (R). In District 68, Dawn Adams (D) has a 326-vote lead over Manoli Loupassi (R). In District 94, David Yancey (R) has a 12-vote lead over Shelly Simonds (D).

https://ballotpedia.org/Virginia_House_of_Delegates_elections,_2017

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Reply Virginia House of Delegates still hangs in the balance (Original post)
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 OP
Wounded Bear Nov 2017 #1
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #3
Happyhippychick Nov 2017 #2
spooky3 Nov 2017 #4
LonePirate Nov 2017 #5
oxbow Nov 2017 #6
underpants Nov 2017 #8
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #10
Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #7
CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2017 #9
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #11
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #12
Blue_true Nov 2017 #22
louis c Nov 2017 #14
Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #16
Roland99 Nov 2017 #17
Tom Rinaldo Nov 2017 #19
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #23
gratuitous Nov 2017 #13
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #15
Garrett78 Nov 2017 #18
Johnny2X2X Nov 2017 #20
lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #21

Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:58 AM

1. Regardless of final outcome, job well done Virginia Democrats!

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:59 AM

3. Thanks! Nobody ever even imagined the possibility of flipping the House.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 11:58 AM

2. Thanks for the update, this is helpful

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:09 PM

4. Woohoo! Thx.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:12 PM

5. I believe the VA House shake up and huge losses by the Repubs are what scares DC Repubs the most.

The VA House losses came in numerous suburban districts. If that same pattern holds during next year’s elections, Republicans will lose several governorships, hundreds of state legislative seats and a few dozen seats in Congress. Some Republican seats in the U.S. Senate are far more less solid today than yesterday.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:30 PM

6. 49 D's now

November 8, 11:00 AM ET: Democrats pick up District 68 after incumbent Manoli Loupassi (R) concedes.[2] Democrats have a 49-47 advantage with four races still uncalled

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Response to oxbow (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:43 PM

8. Loupassi's loss was a stunner

Bob Marshall's was just so sweet. Marshall had been in the GA since 1991 and Roem beat him easily.

Rodman's win over O'Bannon (16 years) was quite shocking too.

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Response to underpants (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:57 PM

10. Trans-phobe Bathroom Boy Bob trounced by a transgendered woman - beautiful!

Bob will now have to address his personal perversions with his therapist, instead of taking them out on the rest of us.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:31 PM

7. It's now: 49D 47R

Of 4 still open races, Dem leads in one (by 68 votes) Repubs lead in three (by 124, 86, and 12 votes respectively).

If those results hold it will be a 50 50 split. If we hold onto the seat where we are ahead by 68 votes, and swing the seat where we are behind by only 12, Dems will be in the majority 51 to 49!

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:47 PM

9. ALL RIGHT! GREAT NEWS, AND THANK YOU! n/t

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:58 PM

11. Thank you very much!

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 12:59 PM

12. Who is the tiebreaker when there's a split?

The Lieutenant Governor? Maybe nobody?

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:54 PM

22. Lt.Gov, we win. nt

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #7)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:02 PM

14. How are ties broken in Va. House?

 

A 50-50 tie in the U.S. Senate is broken by the VP.

Does Virginia brake voting ties in it's house by using the Lt. Gov.?

Is an even split to our advantage?

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Response to louis c (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:05 PM

16. This from DUer underpants on another thread:

"There was speculation that the lieutenant governor would determine party control in the Virginia Senate in 1995, but a power-sharing agreement between the political parties was negotiated instead. Following the 2011 election, the Virginia Senate was evenly split again; this time the lieutenant governor, who was Republican, broke the organizational tie, giving the Republicans control. In 2012, however, a Democratic lieutenant governor was elected; the Senate then reorganized under Democratic control."

http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/incaseofatie.aspx

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #16)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:08 PM

17. That refers to the Senate. Saw that one myself

Cant find mention of a tie in House of Delegates

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #17)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:21 PM

19. The source listed in the OP offers some insights

First, their 11:30 AM update noted this:

November 8, 11:30 AM ET: The last time the Virginia House of Delegates was tied 50-50 was 1997. According to the National Conference of State Legislatures, the two parties adopted a power-sharing agreement where both were equally represented on committees.[3]

So I followed the footnote and ended up at a NCSL website with this page on "IN CASE OF A TIE... (Legislative Deadlock, Tied Chambers)" Some interesting reads there on precedents:
http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/incaseofatie.aspx

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Response to Tom Rinaldo (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:59 PM

23. Best I can tell from that link is "It's probably negotiated."

Virginia has used a couple of different compromise methods to resolve Senate and House ties. It appears to be case-by-case.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:01 PM

13. R's started the night with a 66-34 advantage

Keep that in mind if the late returns all break Republican, and they hold a majority by the narrowest of margins. Republicans can then choose to stay on their ruinous path, knowing that it leads to political Palookaville, or they can decide to govern in a way that benefits more Virginians than just their narrowing base.

Democrats should find this very encouraging as 2017 gives way to 2018.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:03 PM

15. A shocking and completely unexpected turn of events.

Even the best Gerrymander in the country couldn't save the RePutins.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:15 PM

18. Hoping the provisional/absentee ballots put Simonds over the top.

I got the impression from the folks at 538 last night that 51-49 is still a strong possibility.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 01:33 PM

20. That is a massive swing

No one thought it possible. 50-50 is the worst we should do, but 51-49 is possible.

Protect the vote! The elections are run by the states, this is a fantastic chance to protect the right to vote.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Original post)

Wed Nov 8, 2017, 05:02 PM

21. Update


Virginia House of Delegates
Party As of November 7, 2017 After November 7, 2017
Democratic Party 34 49
Republican Party 66 47
Too close to call - 4
Total 100 100

November 8, 1:30 PM ET: According to the Washington Post, the reported vote count for Delegate Tim Hugo (R) in the District 40 race was 100 votes lower than it should have been. With this 100-vote swing, Hugo took a narrow lead over Donte Tanner (D), who had previously led by 68 votes. Republicans now have leads in all four uncalled races that could go to recounts.[2] If Republicans win all four seats, they will have a 51-49 majority in the chamber.

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