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Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:26 PM

Roy Moore will be elected Senator

Thatís my prediction based on Trumpís 59% approval rating there. http://www.al.com/news/index.ssf/2017/10/trumps_approval_rating_down_in.html

The allegations wonít affect the majority of votersí views there. Only 8% of Trump voters believe any of the allegations against him (Source: Ari Melber). The allegations against Moore will be dismissed as fake news and a Democratic conspiracy. There is NOTHING a Republican could do to convince white Alabamans to vote Dem, and they control the electoral system that enables the rest to vote, or not.

I do think Democratic electoral prospects are improving, but a full-scale change in the political culture of the Deep South is a bridge too far.

I hope Iím wrong. I want Dems to do everything possible to win, but we should not overestimate the impact of these disclosures. Grab Ďem by the pussy won the presidency. Womenís lives arenít seen as valuable enough to keep a man from political office.

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Reply Roy Moore will be elected Senator (Original post)
BainsBane Nov 2017 OP
nycbos Nov 2017 #1
greatauntoftriplets Nov 2017 #2
Iliyah Nov 2017 #3
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2017 #4
Codeine Nov 2017 #5
dalton99a Nov 2017 #6
BainsBane Nov 2017 #10
Texx Nov 2017 #52
3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #39
RhodeIslandOne Nov 2017 #49
Initech Nov 2017 #7
Nay Nov 2017 #57
bluestarone Nov 2017 #8
irisblue Nov 2017 #9
herding cats Nov 2017 #11
BainsBane Nov 2017 #12
herding cats Nov 2017 #20
maxrandb Nov 2017 #13
herding cats Nov 2017 #22
maxrandb Nov 2017 #25
Horizens Nov 2017 #16
herding cats Nov 2017 #24
BannonsLiver Nov 2017 #14
SweetieD Nov 2017 #15
bigtree Nov 2017 #17
questionseverything Nov 2017 #51
PatsFan87 Nov 2017 #18
BainsBane Nov 2017 #27
Freethinker65 Nov 2017 #38
bdtrppr6 Nov 2017 #47
Kaleva Nov 2017 #19
Tatiana Nov 2017 #21
fallout87 Nov 2017 #26
fallout87 Nov 2017 #23
maxrandb Nov 2017 #28
Laxman Nov 2017 #29
workinclasszero Nov 2017 #32
Laxman Nov 2017 #41
Nevernose Nov 2017 #30
Hoyt Nov 2017 #31
dem4decades Nov 2017 #33
mucifer Nov 2017 #34
Ilsa Nov 2017 #35
L. Coyote Nov 2017 #36
woolldog Nov 2017 #43
L. Coyote Nov 2017 #45
HopeAgain Nov 2017 #37
TNLib Nov 2017 #56
3catwoman3 Nov 2017 #40
bullwinkle428 Nov 2017 #42
struggle4progress Nov 2017 #44
L. Coyote Nov 2017 #46
greyl Nov 2017 #48
BainsBane Nov 2017 #50
pnwmom Nov 2017 #53
BainsBane Nov 2017 #54
TNLib Nov 2017 #55
cwydro Nov 2017 #58

Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:29 PM

1. I think you're right it is Alabama

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:31 PM

2. I'm afraid so.

If the same voters could excuse "Grab 'em by the pussy", they'll overlook this, too.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:32 PM

3. Since it was the establishment GOPs to help expose the info

and apparently they are going gun ho in saving what ever to save, Moore might have some problems. A lot of bible thumpers do have daughters.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:32 PM

4. Probably. It's all about being a member of the tribe.

They really don't care what he did; he's their guy and that's all that matters. Trump proved that point.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:32 PM

5. I believe you're 100% correct. nt

 

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:32 PM

6. They'll have a similar sign for Moore:

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:36 PM

10. Yep

Apparently Trump got the highest percentage of Evangelical voters of any president.
Stunning.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 03:46 AM

52. The Evangelical voters voted for Pence

I think the reason Trump received the highest percentage of Evangelical voters is because these Evangelical voters in essence cast their vote for and because of Pence and not Trump. They really want Pence to become their president.

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:27 PM

39. The expression on the face of that woman in the...

...pink tank top is soooooooooooooooooo creepy.

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Response to 3catwoman3 (Reply #39)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:58 AM

49. Thats what a cult looks like. n/m

 

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:33 PM

7. I don't ever want to hear the fundies complain about family values ever again.

If they support this fucking piece of shit, they normalize sexual assault. That is the opposite of the family values they portray. Fucking scumbags. You don't get to dictate morals and values to me if you support a child molester.

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Response to Initech (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:30 PM

57. To fundies, "family values" means that family men get to beat/rape/otherwise abuse

anyone else in the family, and the abused just need to STFU or they are going to hell.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:34 PM

8. Well hell why not you got one that

say's grab them by the p---y and one that did it. So go figure right?

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:35 PM

9. Time for another donation to Doug Jones. nt

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:54 PM

11. I think so, too.

It may be slightly closer, but not close really and Moore will win the seat. He'll possibly end up stepping down later and will be replaced by another less tainted Republican, but they'll win the seat now and hold it later.

I grew up around bible thumping people. They'll blame the victim for tempting him, they'll say she was a tart, a vixen, an agent of Satan sent to test him. He didn't penetrate her, so he stood up to the Devil and shame on her for putting him in that position. They'd have said similar if he did actually engage in sex with her, to be fair. Males reign supreme in that culture and women are all daughters of Eve the original temptress after all. On edit: this is not my beliefs, but what many there believe or will tell themselves to validate their votes.

Add that mentality to their churches beliefs that Democrats are trying to destroy Christianity, and you're pretty much assured the majority of that state will still back him.

We need to do some serious last minute work trying to GOTV there, which may be made easier by this, but registration stops 14 days before the election. So, there's not much time left there for that.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 08:57 PM

12. Scary stuff there

Your insight is valuable. People often have a tendency to believe everyone thinks like they do, and itís not the case.

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Response to BainsBane (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:21 PM

20. People do want to believe everyone thinks at least similarly to them, but it's simply not true.

I've tried and failed many times to explain the debth of cultural misogyny and white male privilege that reigns in rural regions of states like Alabama. It also exists in the urban areas, but it's diluted and not as openly accepted.

There is a substantial block of our country that claims to love and respect women, until something like this is exposed against a male they hold in esteem. Even most of the women are brainwashed to believe women are sinful by nature and have to fight their impulses to tempt men. Once a girl begins to "blossom" it's her duty to control the impact she has on males.

I grew up around these people, they could be nice, kind even loving, but this was core tenet of their beliefs.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:08 PM

13. Next time Democrats have control

They need to seriously punish the living hell out of States like Alabama.

I'm not joking. Alabama needs to lose its statehood just for nominating a whackjob like Moore.

Spare me the "there are good people there" stuff too.

If Roy Moore as a state Supreme Court judge wasn't enough to pack up your bags and get out of that hellhole... that's on you.

Oh... I forgot. I'm supposed to "reach out" to people who support pedophilia. Sorry!

What can we do to get them to vote for sane people???

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:25 PM

22. We need to take tax exempt status away from churches that preach politics from their pulpits.

I know it won't happen, but that's what we need to do if we ever hope to see a semblance of hope of ending this sort of issue.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #22)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:27 PM

25. From your lips

To the Flying Spaghetti Monsters ear

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Response to herding cats (Reply #11)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:11 PM

16. and I think so too

 

Excellent post. May I repost it too friends?

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Response to Horizens (Reply #16)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:27 PM

24. Of course.

You're more than welcome to share my post with others. Knowledge is power and people need to learn and understand why some regions are so very different than the one they reside in.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:10 PM

14. IN other news the sun rises in the east. Film at 11.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:11 PM

15. I'd guess you are right too.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:12 PM

17. I dunno

...let's see if we can widen the wedge between his republican support and scared republicans overwhelmed with Trump.

Enough publicity and they may well pull his nomination.

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Response to bigtree (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:47 AM

51. what we need is moore to run and for the "sane" repubs

to get a write in candidate going for someone else

split their vote

Alabama law wont let moores name off ballot so that part is easy

it could happen

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:14 PM

18. I wonder if this will be like the Gianforte situation.

Democrats and the media thought his assault on a journalist was a disqualifier. Republicans didn't care. However, that was a day before the election. Hopefully the extra time will allow for a write-in candidate, and Moore & the write-in can split the vote.

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Response to PatsFan87 (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:29 PM

27. I fear thats the case

We often think outrageous acts are disqualifiers, but they rarely prove to be with Republicans.

I hope Iím wrong. Iíve just seen it too many times recently.

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Response to PatsFan87 (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:23 PM

38. Yep. If Moore plays the victim card he will handily win in Alabama.

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Response to PatsFan87 (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:22 AM

47. the girl was asking too many questions

 

so i gave her the ol "Full Trump Treatmentô".

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:14 PM

19. Moore's lead is in the single digits and this was before the story broke.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:22 PM

21. We have a small, but legitimate shot at this seat.

We have to mobilize every single Democrat and Independent we can find. And even then, this race will probably be decided by a point or less.

Yes, a majority of people in Alabama are bible thumping, brainwashed Republicans. But there are still decent people (as epitomized by Doug Jones) that are willing to fight for a decent state and nation. We need to encourage them, give them hope, and financial support.

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Response to Tatiana (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:27 PM

26. A point or less?

 

Not a chance. Look what happened in Montana.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:26 PM

23. Yep.

 

One washington post article isn't going to change anything. They dont even trust the WaPo.... Plus the republicans are not falling in step with the Mitch Mcconnells and McCains anymore.

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Response to fallout87 (Reply #23)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:30 PM

28. Thanks for pointing that out

I'm sick and tired of the Retrumplican "bad cop-worse cop" bullshit.

And "eff" Susan Collins weak ass con job too

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:36 PM

29. The Last Days Of The Empire.....

gluttony, lust, perversion and idolatry. All from a band of racist, homophobic, misogynistic creeps. How did it come to this?

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Response to Laxman (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:46 PM

32. Kind of a combo like this I'd say...

 


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Response to workinclasszero (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:50 PM

41. I Think About Those Two Movies.....

all the time these days. I called one of the local republican candidates around here Stony Lonesome last week. He had no idea what I was talking about.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:42 PM

30. Correction:

National Democrat Party conspiracy. Direct quote.

Man, talk about micro aggressions and passive aggressiveness. ďDemocrat Party?Ē Theyíve been think theyíre sly with that insult since Father Whatshisface in the 1930s.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:44 PM

31. A week ago, I would have no doubt. We have a chance, but it is AL.

I'm from GA, so I know it takes a lot for white wingers to abandon a racist candidate. But, this is an opening I hope Jones can exploit.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:47 PM

33. It is Sessions seat, Alabama sucks.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:47 PM

34. Rachel had a local reporter from AL on agreeing with the OP.

So much evil in the world.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:48 PM

35. The political pundit who has gotten everything right

Regarding AL over the last few years said Moore will get even more votes now. He said republicans think this is either a Mitch McConnell or DNC conspiracy.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 09:58 PM

36. Check the polls. They were even before this broke.

And this story has only begun to break. Roy Moore is trending #1 nationally. The polls will shift immensely.



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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #36)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:43 PM

43. you have a link to these polls?

 

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Response to woolldog (Reply #43)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:53 PM

45. Democratic Resistance:

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:18 PM

37. If elected, Moore can assist Trump in destroying the Republican Party

The final chapter of the fallout of the 2016 election is far from written yet. If Tuesday says anything, it could be that Trump will still be the worst thing for the Republicans yet.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:11 PM

56. Yes I think this is the GOP's worst nightmare

If he wins he's going to bring down the GOP in 2018 along with Trump and they know it.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 10:44 PM

40. And if elected, dollars to donuts that the Republican...

...senators, who were calling him out today and saying that there would be no place in the senate, will wlecome Mooore with hail-fellow-well-met backslaps and applause.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:18 PM

42. Alabama political reporter suggested his margin of victory will be BIGGER as

the result of this story surfacing.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:51 PM

44. "Resistance is futile!"

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Thu Nov 9, 2017, 11:55 PM

46. 280 characters isn't enough space to describe how sick, twisted, despicable, shameful, gruesome, ...

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:56 AM

48. With my 4 hour advantage, I disagree. nt

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Response to greyl (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 01:18 AM

50. I hope youre right!

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 03:52 AM

53. Unless Luther Strange makes a serious run against him

and gets some of the GOP vote.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #53)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 11:43 AM

54. Id be very surprised if he does. Nt

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 12:08 PM

55. Normally I'd agree but this race was pretty close before this news broke.

If a few I's switch, Dems in Alabama get out and vote and a few R's stay home with disgust, then this could be a big win for the Dems

But then again it is Alabama and it's very hard to imagine it going Blue.

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Response to BainsBane (Original post)

Fri Nov 10, 2017, 05:55 PM

58. Yeah, sadly I agree with you.

His voters donít care.

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