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Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:44 PM

New Confederate Flag?

Popping up all over the area, and given out at our local year-round Repug office, are the "Back the Badge" signs. The people that put up these signs have had the traitor flag up before, "Hillary for Prison Signs" and, now, "Back the Badge". It's odd to me as, some are the same folks that hate the sheriff's department. Complain of them waiting outside the bar that still sells "Hillary for Prison" t-shirts, to arrest them for their third DUI. Got a ticket for disorderly conduct, arrested them when they punched their wives, pulled them over for blaring a car stereo at 3am... I feel I always backed the badge long before these folks did.

Isn't "BTB" in direct response to Black Lives Matter? By putting up BTB aren't they implying, "shoot 'em all" and Dump's idea we should bang heads on the door frame.

What would happen if I put up both BTB AND BLM? What if I put up a BTB with my " Trump for Prison" sticker on it? Would that insult BLM to be part of it?.

It does anger me that people can co-opt support of police for the greedy cons. It angers me that Black Lives Matter is an insult to folks around me. I'd like to mix it up a bit, but not by insulting or demeaning the groups I do support.

Any advice would be appreciated.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:47 PM

1. Yeah

They back the badge when it is the law enforcement against black people, but when it is law enforcement vs the likes of the Bundy Ranchers then law enforcement is evil

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:54 PM

2. It would be interesting to see if BTB could be conscripted the way BLM has been. nt

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:56 PM

3. I wonder if it is related to the Sovereign Citizens who believe

that elected sherrifs are the only legitimate form of law enforcement. The BLM movement is probablya big part of it.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:57 PM

4. The Confederate First, Second, and Third Flags, their Battle Flags, and various State Flags.

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Dang, they're all the same flag!




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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:58 PM

5. I start with the assumption that half of these are just people trying to get out of tickets

And I'm not philosophically opposed to law enforcement having a close relationship with the community. But if I've got my chronology right, BLM started as such in August 2014, and "Back the Badge" stuff predates that. I'd swear I've seen it for years, but "Back the Badge Bull Riding" started in 2013, so we should be able to say it doesn't trace its roots directly to BLM.

Now, the Blue Lives Matter stuff strikes me as an explicit reaction to BLM and a "Kill all the brown people you want" kind of thing. And if you want to say the huge uptick in BTB is a response to BLM, or that BTB may have started before BLM but it was always a racist dog whistle, I'm okay with that too.

But I really do think any public display of law enforcement support on a car is as much about trying to weasel out of tickets as anything else.

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:14 PM

9. Interesting, thanks

Just the kind of information I was asking.

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Reply #5)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 10:00 PM

15. I lived in Dallas TX during the '80s

In the late '80s, in a year 6 or 8 Dallas police officers were killed in the line of duty. Civic groups, stores, etc passed out bumper stickers reading "Back the Blue" (Dallas police wear dark blue uniforms). The stickers were quite widely seen on cars and I agree that many displayed them in the hopes of getting a break on traffic infractions.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 12:59 PM

6. It's the new nazi flag.

And it's in direct response to anyone who doesn't recognize the ultimate power of the police.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:11 PM

7. Well "Blue Lives Matter" kind of fizzled...

so now they need a new slogan, I guess.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #7)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 04:56 PM

12. They're only a couple of slogans away from Seig Heil, so why not?

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Response to Initech (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:23 PM

13. They've already been saying "Blood and Soil"

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 01:56 PM

8. I hadn't seen one so I looked it up on Amazon

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Response to underpants (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 02:15 PM

10. Now that you've seen it,


what do you think?

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #10)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 04:24 PM

11. I think they've had better simpler representations

My two cents.

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Response to LakeArenal (Original post)

Sat Nov 11, 2017, 08:32 PM

14. Often these pro-police things are cons

Not as in conservatives, but as in confidence men. Same with half the shot labeled with “proceeds go to veterans.”

And no, I don’t think it’s necessarily the same as a “new” Confederate flag. Definitely indicating allegiance to the same tribe, but a different clan and family no pun on “clan” intended).

I also think 95% of the vehicle stickers/magnets are purchased with the promary — and erroneous — belief that the sticker will get them out of speeding tickets. The display of affiliation is secondary with this sticker.

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