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Tony_FLADEM

(3,023 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:01 PM Jul 2012

I think the reason enacting gun control measures is next to impossible and politicians are scared of

the NRA is because some people have the belief that owning a gun is a check on the Federal Government. If the government turns against the American People, then owning a gun allows you to fight back. So if you support some gun control measures you are in favor of the Federal Government being able to dominate people and not allowing them to fight back.

The actual reality is the Federal Government controls the biggest military on earth. Owning a gun really can't do anything for you in the hypothetical event the Federal Government turns on the American People.

I'm not advocating for additional gun control measures, I'm just stating what the issue is.

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Democrats_win

(6,539 posts)
2. Political reality: the NRA HAS defeated pro-gun control politicians.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:09 PM
Jul 2012

To politicians, the important thing is to be re-elected. So when the NRA has that much power, it is no surprise that politicians are too scared to touch gun control.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
4. Its not just the NRA
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:19 PM
Jul 2012

That gun control is a losing issue for Dems has been shown time and time again.

We may blame the NRA for getting their message out, but they do not have that many members. However, it is clear that a significant portion of the electorate is sympathetic to their views.

Welcome to democracy.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
3. If that's reason people own guns, they can leave them at home until revolution comes.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:14 PM
Jul 2012

Instead most of the gun culture keep promoting relaxed laws, more toting, Stand Your Ground Laws where you can buy a gun and tell everyone to fuck off, etc. Lots of folks out there support the likes of Zimmerman.

Th other thing concerning is that the majority of gun owners are right wing and often bigoted and callous. Life is going to suck if they use their guns to "take over." Somehow we assume that if the citizenry stood up to the government, the new folks in charge will be fair. I think the new folks in charge would most likely be the American Taliban.

ProgressiveProfessor

(22,144 posts)
5. Why didn't you post this in the RKBA forum?
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:20 PM
Jul 2012

There has been a growing litany of complaints of firearms threads leaking into the rest of DU.

 

ramikin

(20 posts)
7. It's a numbers game.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:37 PM
Jul 2012

There are approx. 90 armed civilians per member of the US military. That's if every member of the armed forces would fire on US citizens (they wouldn't) It's a numbers game and a free people per the 2a win. FYI there are only 1,430,895 members in all branches of the military combined and 30% of them are office staff.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
9. The armed forces of the United States have some pretty formidable weapons..the kind
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jul 2012

that the best aka wouldn't hold a candle to.
Only a fool would try to take on the United States Army, Navy, Air Force and Marines..not to mention the National Guard.

 

ramikin

(20 posts)
11. Thats only if the members of the armed forces would fire on its citizens.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:39 PM
Jul 2012

And other than full auto guns there isn't much difference in firepower. I cant imagine them carpet bombing Columbus Ohio.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
12. You're dreaming. The members of the armed forces have already and will again fire on
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 10:00 PM
Jul 2012

the citizens if they are ordered to.

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