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nashville_brook

(20,958 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 03:59 PM Jul 2012

Batman co-creator says Bruce Wayne=Romney, Bane="force for evil...akin to Occupy Wall St."


http://gawker.com/5927095/bane-creator-chuck-dixon-limbaughs-batman-conspiracy-theory-ridiculous--im-a-staunch-conservative

Bane Creator Chuck Dixon: Limbaugh’s Batman Conspiracy Theory ‘Ridiculous’ — I’m a Staunch Conservative

Making an unplanned phone call into the nationally syndicated radio program Schnitt Show yesterday, comic book writer Chuck Dixon, co-creator of the character Bane, refuted claims made by Rush Limbaugh that the homophonic similarities between the Batman villain and Mitt Romney's financial services company Bain suggest a liberal conspiracy to smear the presidential candidate.

"Graham and I are both staunch conservatives, so from our angle there is no liberal agenda," Dixon said, referring to his DC partner Graham Nolan.

(snip)

As Bleeding Cool notes, Dixon is "one of the comic book industry's best-known political conservatives."

(snip)

"As for his appearance in The Dark Knight Rises, Bane is a force for evil and the destruction of the status quo," Dixon said. "He's far more akin to an Occupy Wall Street type if you're looking to cast him politically. And if there ever was a Bruce Wayne running for the White House it would have to be Romney."


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Batman co-creator says Bruce Wayne=Romney, Bane="force for evil...akin to Occupy Wall St." (Original Post) nashville_brook Jul 2012 OP
Wasn't Batman also for the destruction of the status quo? krispos42 Jul 2012 #1
Romney is Ras Al Gul from the first movie edhopper Jul 2012 #3
The status quo for Batman was the crime syndicates, a la Al Capaone types, Larkspur Jul 2012 #7
Joining Miller I see nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #2
I quit reading comic books when I was about 12 years old tularetom Jul 2012 #4
The movie is very conservative. Bane is launching the French Revolution while Batman is FarLeftFist Jul 2012 #5
Have you seen the movie yet? I have and I don't see Bane as hero at all. SPOILERS in the post below white_wolf Jul 2012 #23
So Chuck Dixon thinks OWS people, who lost their jobs due to offshoring Larkspur Jul 2012 #6
of course! Mitt's the one with the car elevator! librechik Jul 2012 #8
They can take their damn movie and shove it up their soulless and ignorant asses. mmonk Jul 2012 #9
+1 nashville_brook Jul 2012 #11
This guy has nothing to do with the movie. Son of Gob Jul 2012 #21
Batman is a Tory? Dawson Leery Jul 2012 #10
No Batman isn't a tory Son of Gob Jul 2012 #25
Lol, another Right Winger who hates OWS. And another good reason to make sure sabrina 1 Jul 2012 #12
hahaha...oooops. Well, they won't get my money now fascisthunter Jul 2012 #13
I like that comics' universe includes right wing superheroes... Green_Lantern Jul 2012 #14
Well, I won't be seeing this movie. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #15
they created the character not the movie... Green_Lantern Jul 2012 #16
I'm sure they didn't donate his services. MrSlayer Jul 2012 #18
This guy was paid for the comics he wrote Son of Gob Jul 2012 #29
The title is rather misleading. Chuck Dixon didn't "co-create" Batman. Johnny Rico Jul 2012 #17
Edit your title line Son of Gob Jul 2012 #19
It's an arms race of idiocy and insanity. Zalatix Jul 2012 #20
Well myv iew of those guys just hit bottom Marrah_G Jul 2012 #22
Change your title. Dixon created Bane. Bill Finger and Bob Cane created Batman. white_wolf Jul 2012 #24
One problem: Batman is the good guy. Wall St. crooks are the bad guys. Bane's just, well, Bane. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #26
I ]want to clarify that this has nothing to do with the filmmakers Son of Gob Jul 2012 #27
On the topic of Batman and politics. white_wolf Jul 2012 #28

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
1. Wasn't Batman also for the destruction of the status quo?
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:04 PM
Jul 2012

Besides, Romney would have gutted Gotham's businesses with outsourcing and cut social services for the unemployed left behind.


In fact, I'll be the problem with Gotham is that Romney was the president or governor in years prior!

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
7. The status quo for Batman was the crime syndicates, a la Al Capaone types,
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:31 PM
Jul 2012

who ruled Gotham by corrupting its institutions, leaders, and many of its citizens. In Nolan's first Batman movie, Alfred mentions to Bruce that the cave they found under the mansion was part of the pre-Civil War era Underground Railroad, where the Wayne family hid escaped slaves they assisted to freedom.

I read somewhere that the original creators of Batman were inspired by the Zorro, The Shadow and Sherlock Holmes characters. Batman is a hybrid of all three. The Bruce Wayne/Batman alter egos is a direct copy of the Don Diego/Zorro character, and his use of darkness and a baritone voice echoes The Shadow. To defeat the crime syndicates, Wayne has to use logic to form strategies and build the tools he needs to bring them to justice. No where did I ever think that Bruce Wayne/Batman was ultra conservative. He reminded me more of an FDR or Teddy Roosevelt type plutocrat than a Ronnie Reagan or Mitt Romney type.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
4. I quit reading comic books when I was about 12 years old
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

And I've never seen a movie based on a comic character except Roger Rabbit.

So I couldn't care less what the political leanings of the Batman movie people are.

But I do think it's funny that the whole controversy has made fat druggie limbaugh look even stupider than normal.

This story needs to be repeated daily.

FarLeftFist

(6,161 posts)
5. The movie is very conservative. Bane is launching the French Revolution while Batman is
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:08 PM
Jul 2012

trying to stick to the ancient regime. Fuck this movie.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
23. Have you seen the movie yet? I have and I don't see Bane as hero at all. SPOILERS in the post below
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jul 2012

SPOILERS!! below so scroll past this if you don't want to see.


























































First of all, Bane loves to talk about the people, but in the same breath that he tells them Gotham belongs to the "people", he also tells them that if they try to leave he will kill them all. He has a nuke in the city and threatens to use it if anyone tries to leave. So much for a fighter for the people. He is also an agent of the League of Shadows and is a servant of Talia. The League's reason for destroying Gotham is never very clear, simply that it has become decadent and corrupt, which is true, but they are willing to murder thousands to get rid of the corruption. Not only that, the fact is that Talia planned to blow up the city and everyone in it regardless of Bane's revolution and Bane knew it. So sure if by hero you mean a man who is planning on trapping the people within Gotham and killing them all, then so he's a hero.

 

Larkspur

(12,804 posts)
6. So Chuck Dixon thinks OWS people, who lost their jobs due to offshoring
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:13 PM
Jul 2012

by the Romney types and who are using nonviolent methods to protest corporate greed are evil?

I don't get that feeling from Chuck Nolan's Batman movies. I think Nolan's films attack the abuse of power and even is willing to show that our hero, Batman, can be tempted by the dark side of power abuse too, but in the end Bruce Wayne rejects absolute power.

I view Bane as a metaphor for Eric Prince and the Blackwater type corporations.

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
9. They can take their damn movie and shove it up their soulless and ignorant asses.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:42 PM
Jul 2012

It's too bad human garbage gets to be rewarded with lots of money.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
25. No Batman isn't a tory
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:20 PM
Jul 2012

This is about the creator of Bane not Batman and it has nothing to do with the movie. Why the OP chose to make up that headline is beyond me.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
12. Lol, another Right Winger who hates OWS. And another good reason to make sure
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:49 PM
Jul 2012

it survives. One of the best things about OWS, other than the actual work they are now doing, in the courts and elsewhere, is how it drives the Right Wing 'bat-shit' insane.

If for no other reason than that, it should be around forever.

Green_Lantern

(2,423 posts)
14. I like that comics' universe includes right wing superheroes...
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 04:56 PM
Jul 2012

I respect the artist exploration of opposing views.

The concept of fighting crime because police are handcuffed by bleeding heart bureaucrats is highly exaggerated but interesting.

 

MrSlayer

(22,143 posts)
18. I'm sure they didn't donate his services.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:06 PM
Jul 2012

I do care. But honestly, I was probably never going to see it.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
29. This guy was paid for the comics he wrote
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jul 2012

DC Comics owns the character, this wingnut won't see one dime from this movie.

 

Johnny Rico

(1,438 posts)
17. The title is rather misleading. Chuck Dixon didn't "co-create" Batman.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:02 PM
Jul 2012

As per the story, he co-created Bane, who first appeared in 1993. Batman was created by Bob Kane and Bill Finger in 1939.

 

Zalatix

(8,994 posts)
20. It's an arms race of idiocy and insanity.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:12 PM
Jul 2012

Bruce Wayne = Romney? Bane = Occupy Wall Street? This response is as nutty as Rush Lamebrain's whackadoodle rant.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
24. Change your title. Dixon created Bane. Bill Finger and Bob Cane created Batman.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:17 PM
Jul 2012

Besides Dixon and Miller are pretty much the only conservatives in the business.

Son of Gob

(1,502 posts)
27. I ]want to clarify that this has nothing to do with the filmmakers
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:32 PM
Jul 2012

It's a different unrelated guy with the last name Nolan who illustrated Bane in the comics. Director Christopher Nolan is using the character in the movie but has nothing to with the right-wing nut who created Bane in the 90's and that guy has no input on the movie.

I feel like people are trying to slime this movie in a very similar bullshit way that Limbaugh did.

white_wolf

(6,238 posts)
28. On the topic of Batman and politics.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 05:36 PM
Jul 2012

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I recently read a book called Batman and Philosophy written by various philosophy professors in the U.S. and one of them pointed out that Batman is often hunted down because he is a danger to the State and the status quo. His very existence threatens the State's role as the sole legitimate user of violence. Traditionally conservatives have been very big on protecting the State, especially, in its role as the guardian of law and order.

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