I can't believe this is already on Facebook.

[Courtesy Flush]

Yeah. If more people had guns, it would be better.

[Rambis]

1. Reason 100+ mil I don't do facebook Knobheads! (nm)

x

[demtenjeep]

2. we don't know if no one was carrying a Concealed Gun for protection

in this case, I don't think anyone with a CC would have been able to take action. First everyone was caught off guard as they were watching the movie with sound effects, second, the terrorist used tear gas and lastly was completely covered with bullet protective gear from head to ankles

[ileus]

3. 380 v 556, 7.62, 9mm or 40 is bad.

Now if someone had decided to CC a sig 556 pistol then maybe there would have been a different outcome.

[upaloopa]

7. Yeah maybe more Innocent people would have been hit!

[upaloopa]

12. Maybe if there wasn't any fucking gun at all the people could have enjoyed the movie!

[DrDan]

29. I had this image of Tim "the tool man" Taylor doing his "oooo ooooo oooo" dialog

when I read your post

[upaloopa]

4. More people with more guns is like fucking for virginity

[zzaapp]

30. Virginity is more like fucking people with more guns IMHO

[Lex]

5. Yes, if we ALL were armed to the teeth, there'd be no violence.

Sure. That makes sense.

[maryellen99]

6. you should see the movie theater's facebook page

people are blaming the theater for the shootings because they don't allow concealed weapons in the theater.

BTW, wasn't there someone in the area during the giffords shooting carrying a concealed weapon and didn't use it to stop the shooter?

[xchrom]

13. yes. because others were in the way or identity was difficult. nt

[Tejas]

21. strawman

"BTW, wasn't there someone in the area during the giffords shooting carrying a concealed weapon and didn't use it to stop the shooter?"

The CCW chose to minimize loss of life and tackled the shooter and subdued him, no need (much less a lawful reason) to shoot him.

[Courtesy Flush]

24. I remember that well

He saw a man with a gun, and was concerned that he might not be the shooter, and he was right, as he was seeing a man who had just disarmed the shooter.

He also worried that if he drew his gun, he'd be mistaken for the shooter, and get shot. He really was a well-trained and intelligent person, and I can't argue with the decisions he made. But it underscores the lack of credibility of the pro-CC claims.

[calimary]

34. There's also the matter of the tear gas.

Okay, say there WERE people carrying in there when this guy started his attack. First, as I understand the circumstances, he threw a tear gas canister into the crowd, via an emergency exit through which he got in. So there goes your visibility, almost immediately, especially if that tear gas is stirred up and spread more quickly around the room by a full house of instantly panicking people, in an outbreak of extreme chaos? When people panic they start running every which way, looking for exits they probably can't see well because there's tear gas obstructing the view, AND filling their eyes with stinging tears, which means they'd be blinking frantically and temporarily nearly blinded. In the best of circumstances, how would one take aim? How would one even be able to spot the perpetrator? How would they even know for sure that WAS the perpetrator? I mean, consider that guy in the Giffords shooting, as referenced just above, here -

"He saw a man with a gun, and was concerned that he might not be the shooter, and he was right, as he was seeing a man who had just disarmed the shooter.

"He also worried that if he drew his gun, he'd be mistaken for the shooter, and get shot. He really was a well-trained and intelligent person, and I can't argue with the decisions he made. But it underscores the lack of credibility of the pro-CC claims."

How would you know? How could you tell? How could you even see? And with all those people running and hiding and panicking and screaming and some getting shot - how could you tell where the shots were coming from? How could you avoid shooting some other innocent person (or maybe more than one innocent person) by accident, even if you WERE gunning for the gunman and completely well-intentioned? How could you see to shoot through all that chaos and madness and mayhem?? How could you even take aim in the first place? Wouldn't your first instinct be to take cover? And where would THAT be? Could you even find cover in an uncontrolled, insane, chaotic scene like that? How do you know your hands wouldn't be shaking uncontrollably and maybe you couldn't even get a good grip on your precious sacred fucking gun in the first place?

It's awfully easy for these reckless free-guns advocates to sit there and say. I think many of these self-flattering "Dead-Eye Dicks" have been watching too many gunfight scenes and other assorted action movies.

[Chorophyll]

8. Holy COMPLETELY DISIMILAR stories, Batman!

Yup, more armed people in a dark, crowded theater would surely have resulted in fewer killings. Uh huh.

[Drale]

19. Not to mention that he threw smoke grenades before he attacked.

so the theater was also filled with smoke.

[NightWatcher]

10. Well lit cafe vs dark crowded theater with f/x and smoke bombs

Had I been there carrying a concealed weapon, there's no way I would have just started shootings towards an implied threat.

[JI7]

11. first case was a Robbery and though we can't say for sure

i think the robbers would have left without killing anyone.

in the 2nd case the guy was out to kill people.

[bluestateguy]

14. Colorado is a shall issue state

So the law is not the problem here (in the worldview of the poster).

Instead, moviegoers made the choice not to carry guns, which a true believer in the 2nd Amendment would support: personal choice.

[Ian David]

15. A shoot-out in a crowded, dark movie theater. That would have ended well. n/t

[hlthe2b]

18. Exactly....

[Ian David]

20. You know what would also be fun? A shoot-out at the Aquarium! n/t

[HiPointDem]

16. why is that man dressed like a marshmallow? who is the robber & who the citizen?

[charlie]

22. *Edited*

Got it wrong. The guy in the foreground is the old coot who shot the robbers, who are out of frame.

[HiPointDem]

23. you mean the marshmallow was the citizen? why was he dressed like that?

[charlie]

25. Yeah

It's washed out. White beard, white cap, white clothes, it just looks like he's swaddled in marshmallow creme.

*Edit*

Okay, here's the video:

And he doesn't have a beard. Shit, I'm getting everything wrong...

[HiPointDem]

26. dunno -- i can id all the other people despite any washing out. white beard???? doesn't look

like a beard. is there a better picture of this supposed hero?

[hlthe2b]

17. Good gawd. Colorado has tons of concealed weapons holders the odds are plenty were in the theater

It didn't help with Gabby Gifford's shooting and it obviously didn't make a difference here.

[MrMickeysMom]

27. They didn't miss a beat, did they?

Unbelievable stupid motherfuckers...

[progressivebydesign]

28. Tho I wouldn't do it out of respect. I could easily do one about the armed officers shot in Seattle

All four Lakewood officers were armed, when they were murdered because of the surprise element. And the Seattle officer murdered in his car: Armed. Armored guard officer in Tacoma, murdered while armed, with an armed partner, before anyone could react.

One person with a gun would not have changed anything against a deranged person with multiple weapons, in armor, in a dark theatre filled with tear gas.

Facebook brings out the inner ignorant asshole in people. I'm so sick of gun nuts.

[AngryOldDem]

31. Yeah...dark, crowded, smoky theater...the outcome would have been SO much different

[earthside]

32. Absolutely moronic.

Yup.

That's what you need in a dark, crowded theater -- a bunch of people with conceal weapons all shooting at each other because they think the other guy shooting is the bad guy.

There would have been three times as many fatalities if the theater had been full of 'self-defense shooters'.

[Scootaloo]

33. Oh look, it's Ammoland again

Favorite source for opinions found on our RKBA forum!

[mmonk]

35. I heard a police officer say such an idea of armed people last night

in a dark theater would be what you would not want. He said he would not draw his gun in such a situation with that many people in a confined dark place.