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Lurks Often

(5,455 posts) Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:09 PM Nov 2017

The trickle of allegations became a stream and the stream became a flood

Sexual assault and sexual harassment is unacceptable no matter who it does it.

There are going to be more allegations in the future against people we hate and people we like. I suspect many of these allegations will be true, but how do we decide if the allegations are true or lies designed to destroy people's careers and damage their lives?

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The trickle of allegations became a stream and the stream became a flood (Original Post) Lurks Often Nov 2017 OP

see plcdude Nov 2017 #1

+1000 Chasstev365 Nov 2017 #2

Mine was a general comment not aimed at any single person Lurks Often Nov 2017 #3

"The picture is real" rock Nov 2017 #4

The alleged victim disagrees Lurks Often Nov 2017 #5

She is free to diasgree rock Nov 2017 #6

Allegations are allegations and nothing more and nothing less. Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2017 #7

plcdude

(5,309 posts)

1. see

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:14 PM

Nov 2017

the replies of people who were there with Al Franken in this alleged public and photographed harassment.

Chasstev365

(5,191 posts)

2. +1000

Reply to plcdude (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:18 PM

Nov 2017

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

3. Mine was a general comment not aimed at any single person

Reply to plcdude (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 01:23 PM

Nov 2017

But since you mentioned Al Franken, he has already apologized for the picture, so that means the picture is real.

Still using Al Franken and your comment "see the replies of the people who were there" who gets to decide what is and is not sexual assault and sexual harassment? The alleged victim? The alleged attacker? The people nearby, who may or may not neutral witnesses?

rock

(13,218 posts)

4. "The picture is real"

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:45 PM

Nov 2017

True. A staged picture, a real picture of a staged scene. That was know from the start. Just look at it.

Lurks Often

(5,455 posts)

5. The alleged victim disagrees

Reply to rock (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 02:59 PM

Nov 2017

So who is right, the popular Democratic politician or that conservative woman?

Who gets to decide whether a person claiming sexual assault or harassment is right or wrong?

rock

(13,218 posts)

6. She is free to diasgree

Reply to Lurks Often (Reply #5)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 04:09 PM

Nov 2017

Tommy_Carcetti

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7. Allegations are allegations and nothing more and nothing less.

Reply to Lurks Often (Original post)

Thu Nov 16, 2017, 04:23 PM

Nov 2017

Once made there is a duty to investigate and weigh credibility in good faith without bias towards or against anyone.

But the mere fact allegations are made against a person is not the be all and end all of anything.

For example, I could accuse you of being a right wing troll and disruptor by the curious nature of your name and some of your very curious posting habits. But that allegation proves nothing in and of itself. Still got to prove it.

That applies to allegations concerning Al Franken. And Roy Moore. And Bill Clinton. And Donald Trump.

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