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Stinky The Clown

(67,786 posts)
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:43 PM Nov 2017

Al Franken did not . . . .

. . . . sexually assault a 14 year old girl.

. . . . induce nine women who didn't know each other to come forward with essentially the same story about preying on women FAR too young for the preyer.

. . . . brag about grabbing women by their pussies.

. . . . walk into the dressing room of a teenage beauty contest and ogle girls and very young women.

. . . . spoken about his own daughter in the most disgusting ways not just once, but on multiple occasions, in multiple venues, and in highly public settings.

. . . . ignore the allegations of more than a dozen women who did not know each other yet made very similar allegations of groping, hands up skirts, vagina touching, and more.

. . . . refute what is increasingly being shown to be spurious charges at best, if not outright lies.

. . . . even breathe a HINT of a negative statement against his questionable accuser.

. . . . deflect the focus on him by publicly chiding others accused of similar actions




On the other hand, he he did . . . .

. . . . quickly acknowledge the accusations, even as the accuser has shown herself to have a political and personal agenda well beyond the allegations made.

. . . . offer a public apology.

. . . . deliver a hand written personal apology.

. . . . call for the Senate to do an ethics probe into the incident.

. . . . quietly withdraw from the controversy and allow the accuser to speak unrefuted.





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Al Franken did not . . . . (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 OP
Some of the headlines drive me crazy riverwalker Nov 2017 #1
AND . . . . . that the script was from a USO tour he did years earlier, in 2003 . . . . Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #3
Did he write the skit as an excuse to kiss whatever attractive female he is paired with? oberliner Nov 2017 #17
I think that's generally the plot. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #18
Tweeden was eye candy. trof Nov 2017 #25
Needle Is Stuck ProfessorGAC Nov 2017 #24
The groove is very deep. guillaumeb Nov 2017 #26
Oh gee, look how easily you do this, you save me the trouble of trying to say Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #28
No MFM008 Nov 2017 #29
LeeAnn tweeden is lying through her teeth an Al Franken knows it and it's best to have an investigat Heather MC Nov 2017 #2
THIS Neema Nov 2017 #8
can you imagine the look on their faces when he said let's investigate this Heather MC Nov 2017 #10
They just don't have any experience with people who aren't totally corrupt. Neema Nov 2017 #11
her attitude changed from outrage and disgust to "i don't want him to resign, i forgive him, he is JI7 Nov 2017 #12
Well played Al Franken Heather MC Nov 2017 #14
now the problem for her is azureblue Nov 2017 #15
Oooh, I didn't realize she's not endorsing an investigation. lagomorph777 Nov 2017 #23
EXACTLY why he instantly said what he said and called for an investigation, knowing FULL WELL Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #30
Preyer? I think the word youre looking for is predator. aidbo Nov 2017 #4
No, "preyer" Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #5
Oh! Iggo Nov 2017 #9
Call Franken zentrum Nov 2017 #6
KnR Hekate Nov 2017 #7
That's because Al Franken is a grown-up. goldwax317 Nov 2017 #13
Free Barabus! The new DU meme Drahthaardogs Nov 2017 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author StrictlyRockers Nov 2017 #19
Please remove that from my thread. That's slut shaming. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #20
Agreed! usaf-vet Nov 2017 #21
To Strictly Rockers - Thanks for the self-delete. Stinky The Clown Nov 2017 #22
This message was self-deleted by its author Eliot Rosewater Nov 2017 #27
Picky, picky wryter2000 Nov 2017 #31
K&R Gothmog Nov 2017 #32
Superb post Stinky!!! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2017 #33
Trying to get him out ironman25 Nov 2017 #34

riverwalker

(8,694 posts)
1. Some of the headlines drive me crazy
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 09:52 PM
Nov 2017

“Franken grabbed her breasts”. No, he pretended to do so, did not touch her or the 1/2 inch bullet proof Kevlar vest she was wearing over her breasts.
“Franken forcibly kissed her and shoved his tongue down her throat”. Down her throat? Really? Like those guys in KISS?
They leave out it was part of the script for the routine they were rehearsing and that she agreed to it.

Stinky The Clown

(67,786 posts)
3. AND . . . . . that the script was from a USO tour he did years earlier, in 2003 . . . .
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:03 PM
Nov 2017

. . . . and for which there is video.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
17. Did he write the skit as an excuse to kiss whatever attractive female he is paired with?
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:31 PM
Nov 2017

That does seem to be the premise of the skit - which does seem to involve him very aggressively kissing the woman playing opposite him during the skit itself.

Stinky The Clown

(67,786 posts)
18. I think that's generally the plot.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:51 PM
Nov 2017

These USO shows have, since Moby Dick was a minnow, traded heavily is sexy sophomoric innuendo and double entendre. They pretty much always have a pretty/sexy woman in the cast. Look at Bob Hope's USO stuff. Nothing unusual in Franken having such a skit.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
28. Oh gee, look how easily you do this, you save me the trouble of trying to say
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:48 PM
Nov 2017

something, so now I will delete my post

THANK You and bless you for saying this

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
2. LeeAnn tweeden is lying through her teeth an Al Franken knows it and it's best to have an investigat
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:03 PM
Nov 2017

Instead of getting into a public back and forth he said she said with this woman

What Al Franken did was actually brilliant and well played. And I guarantee you Sean Hannity and Steve Bannon the two people behind putting LeeAnn up to telling this lie, had no idea Al Franken would call for an Ethics hearing against himself.

And that's why lying LeeAnn is coming on television saying no an investigation doesn't need to happen. Because if an investigation takes place we will find out without a shadow of a doubt that she is lying and Al Franken doesn't have to attack her through the media.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
10. can you imagine the look on their faces when he said let's investigate this
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:15 AM
Nov 2017

I bet Rodger stone, Steve Bannon, Sean Hannity, and LeeAnn tweeden all shit themselves at the same time

Neema

(1,151 posts)
11. They just don't have any experience with people who aren't totally corrupt.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:28 AM
Nov 2017

Al threw them for a loop for sure.

JI7

(89,247 posts)
12. her attitude changed from outrage and disgust to "i don't want him to resign, i forgive him, he is
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:30 AM
Nov 2017

good senator" .

azureblue

(2,146 posts)
15. now the problem for her is
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 02:23 PM
Nov 2017

If she goes before the investigative committee and retells her lie, and is proven to lie, then that is perjury. OOPS! Then she would be asked to explain the picture of her grabbing the guitar player's ass - and it's clear as day she did. Then the photographer will be called to testify along with any other bystanders. Then she will be asked who put her up to this, and those people will be called to testify. Then she will be asked if she received any payment or compensation for her lie. And the wholes Stone / Sinclair smear gang will be exposed, and thereby opening themselves up to federal prosecution.

My bet is there will be some behind the scenes moves to keep this from going to investigation, by Stone and the GOP. There will be something to the affect of, "oh, never mind. He apologized and she accepted so let's all forget about it, OK?" Eh, not so fast, you rat. Let's investigate this with the thoroughness of Ken Starr.

Worst part is that Leeann is now raising the specter of the woman who lies about rape or sexual assault for profit or gain.. And this affects every woman who was actually assaulted or raped..

Eliot Rosewater

(31,109 posts)
30. EXACTLY why he instantly said what he said and called for an investigation, knowing FULL WELL
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 06:51 PM
Nov 2017

everybody who was there will support his story.

Now if you claim to be alone with someone or claim that someone has their hand on your butt like that other woman, it is hard to disprove it, which is why the allegations against Al are like these allegations.

No witnesses, no way for Al to definitively prove he DIDNT do something.

And again, this is NOT a he said she said , never was, neither case. It is well known good guy known to tell the truth and be faithful to his wife and all around great guy said, persons connected to the lowest rightwing slime on earth like hannity, stone and now sinclair publishing/broadcasting said.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
6. Call Franken
Sun Nov 19, 2017, 10:32 PM
Nov 2017

...on Monday and support him. Tell him to not resign and to hang in. Tell him we're with him.

(202) 224-5641

 

goldwax317

(23 posts)
13. That's because Al Franken is a grown-up.
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 01:44 AM
Nov 2017

And part of being grown-up is accepting responsibility for one's actions.

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ironman25

(26 posts)
34. Trying to get him out
Mon Nov 20, 2017, 09:45 PM
Nov 2017

This is an attempt by Trump, Sessions and the other ignorant bastards to get Al Franken out of the way. They fear his questioning at the hearings concerning the Russian bullshit. I want to know when the Democratic Party and the nation is going to raise hell over this blatant attempt at a government take over. These elite rich bastards treat the nation as if we are all morons like their base and can manipulate us with the lies. We need people taking to the streets like we had in the 60s and early 70s.

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