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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAl Franken did not . . . .
. . . . sexually assault a 14 year old girl.
. . . . induce nine women who didn't know each other to come forward with essentially the same story about preying on women FAR too young for the preyer.
. . . . brag about grabbing women by their pussies.
. . . . walk into the dressing room of a teenage beauty contest and ogle girls and very young women.
. . . . spoken about his own daughter in the most disgusting ways not just once, but on multiple occasions, in multiple venues, and in highly public settings.
. . . . ignore the allegations of more than a dozen women who did not know each other yet made very similar allegations of groping, hands up skirts, vagina touching, and more.
. . . . refute what is increasingly being shown to be spurious charges at best, if not outright lies.
. . . . even breathe a HINT of a negative statement against his questionable accuser.
. . . . deflect the focus on him by publicly chiding others accused of similar actions
On the other hand, he he did . . . .
. . . . quickly acknowledge the accusations, even as the accuser has shown herself to have a political and personal agenda well beyond the allegations made.
. . . . offer a public apology.
. . . . deliver a hand written personal apology.
. . . . call for the Senate to do an ethics probe into the incident.
. . . . quietly withdraw from the controversy and allow the accuser to speak unrefuted.
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)Franken grabbed her breasts. No, he pretended to do so, did not touch her or the 1/2 inch bullet proof Kevlar vest she was wearing over her breasts.
Franken forcibly kissed her and shoved his tongue down her throat. Down her throat? Really? Like those guys in KISS?
They leave out it was part of the script for the routine they were rehearsing and that she agreed to it.
Stinky The Clown
(67,786 posts). . . . and for which there is video.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That does seem to be the premise of the skit - which does seem to involve him very aggressively kissing the woman playing opposite him during the skit itself.
Stinky The Clown
(67,786 posts)These USO shows have, since Moby Dick was a minnow, traded heavily is sexy sophomoric innuendo and double entendre. They pretty much always have a pretty/sexy woman in the cast. Look at Bob Hope's USO stuff. Nothing unusual in Franken having such a skit.
trof
(54,256 posts)ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Might want to tap the tone arm.
guillaumeb
(42,641 posts)Explaining the difficulty in removing the needle.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)something, so now I will delete my post
THANK You and bless you for saying this
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Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Instead of getting into a public back and forth he said she said with this woman
What Al Franken did was actually brilliant and well played. And I guarantee you Sean Hannity and Steve Bannon the two people behind putting LeeAnn up to telling this lie, had no idea Al Franken would call for an Ethics hearing against himself.
And that's why lying LeeAnn is coming on television saying no an investigation doesn't need to happen. Because if an investigation takes place we will find out without a shadow of a doubt that she is lying and Al Franken doesn't have to attack her through the media.
Bet it surprised the hell out of all of them when it did that.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)I bet Rodger stone, Steve Bannon, Sean Hannity, and LeeAnn tweeden all shit themselves at the same time
Neema
(1,151 posts)Al threw them for a loop for sure.
JI7
(89,247 posts)good senator" .
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)Senator Franken is playing chess they were playing checkers
azureblue
(2,146 posts)If she goes before the investigative committee and retells her lie, and is proven to lie, then that is perjury. OOPS! Then she would be asked to explain the picture of her grabbing the guitar player's ass - and it's clear as day she did. Then the photographer will be called to testify along with any other bystanders. Then she will be asked who put her up to this, and those people will be called to testify. Then she will be asked if she received any payment or compensation for her lie. And the wholes Stone / Sinclair smear gang will be exposed, and thereby opening themselves up to federal prosecution.
My bet is there will be some behind the scenes moves to keep this from going to investigation, by Stone and the GOP. There will be something to the affect of, "oh, never mind. He apologized and she accepted so let's all forget about it, OK?" Eh, not so fast, you rat. Let's investigate this with the thoroughness of Ken Starr.
Worst part is that Leeann is now raising the specter of the woman who lies about rape or sexual assault for profit or gain.. And this affects every woman who was actually assaulted or raped..
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)That's pretty damning.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,109 posts)everybody who was there will support his story.
Now if you claim to be alone with someone or claim that someone has their hand on your butt like that other woman, it is hard to disprove it, which is why the allegations against Al are like these allegations.
No witnesses, no way for Al to definitively prove he DIDNT do something.
And again, this is NOT a he said she said , never was, neither case. It is well known good guy known to tell the truth and be faithful to his wife and all around great guy said, persons connected to the lowest rightwing slime on earth like hannity, stone and now sinclair publishing/broadcasting said.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,786 posts)The word was coined for that phrase.
I was about to google that shit.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)...on Monday and support him. Tell him to not resign and to hang in. Tell him we're with him.
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Hekate
(90,643 posts)goldwax317
(23 posts)And part of being grown-up is accepting responsibility for one's actions.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)You know who you are...
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Stinky The Clown
(67,786 posts)usaf-vet
(6,181 posts)Stinky The Clown
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wryter2000
(46,036 posts)If you prey on someone, you're a predator, not a preyer.
Otherwise, spot on.
Gothmog
(145,129 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)👏🏾you! 👏🏾Al!
ironman25
(26 posts)This is an attempt by Trump, Sessions and the other ignorant bastards to get Al Franken out of the way. They fear his questioning at the hearings concerning the Russian bullshit. I want to know when the Democratic Party and the nation is going to raise hell over this blatant attempt at a government take over. These elite rich bastards treat the nation as if we are all morons like their base and can manipulate us with the lies. We need people taking to the streets like we had in the 60s and early 70s.