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pasto76

(1,589 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:15 PM Jul 2012

Can we call it what it is; killings. Not "shooting". Words are important folks, and define the debat

this guy killed all of these people, and tried to kill the rest.

Just like Rep Giffords was almost assassinated, not a victim of a "shooting".

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young_at_heart

(3,763 posts)
4. You are so right!
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:24 PM
Jul 2012

The word 'shooting' is less criminal in the eyes of the populace. "Killing', on the other hand, which this definitely was, has far more meaning to the average person.

we can do it

(12,166 posts)
6. A Killer Shooting and Killing Innocents with Automatic Weapons
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jul 2012

words do matter. Guns in the hands of loonies matter to those who have lost loved ones. How many people could this psycho have killed by strangling them, or stabbing them? Not so many, I don't think.

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
7. Fuck that shit. People were SHOT. It was a SHOOTING. Not everyone who was shot was killed.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:33 PM
Jul 2012

What if the guy had thrown a bomb into the theater? Would you object to calling it a "bombing"?

And Kathy Giffords was SHOT. She most certainly WAS the victim of a SHOOTING.

Clyde39

(1,074 posts)
8. So much emotion involved---he wanted to KILL and he did it by 'shooting'
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:48 PM
Jul 2012

One senses that this deranged person was trying to kill as many as he could. What I am outraged by is how easy it was for him to buy such lethal weapons. It would be nice if the NRA cared about this.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
9. The NRA apparently calls its members "shooters"
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:49 PM
Jul 2012

Plus, many many people were NOT killed, but wounded, by being shot.

I agree with you 100% that words matter, which is why "shooting" and "shooter" are 100% acceptable words to describe this horror.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
10. I understand your point. Mass murderer, killer rather than shooter.
Fri Jul 20, 2012, 10:53 PM
Jul 2012

I don't think calling someone a mass murderer or killer downplays those who were wounded and survived. He tried to murder, to kill them, and didn't succeed.

He is a mass murderer. He is a killer.

young_at_heart

(3,763 posts)
11. I looked up the definitions of 'shooting' and 'killing' in a Thesaurus
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:21 AM
Jul 2012

Shooting had three synonyms and killing had at least twenty.

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