Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:32 PM

Time Magazine Person of the Year is most influential person for "Better or Worse"

Several horrible people have been given that award for influencing global events for the worse, as wikipedia notes:

However, Time magazine points out that controversial figures such as Adolf Hitler (1938), Joseph Stalin (1939 and 1942), Nikita Khrushchev (1957), and Ayatollah Khomeini (1979) have also been granted the title for their impacts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_Person_of_the_Year

Based on that, I can see an argument for Trump. He has paralyzed the federal government of the US, ruined the western coalition of nations or at least temporarily has thrown it into disarray, has made unprecedented attacks on the US media, attacked net neutrality, attacked efforts to combat global climate change.

Trump's effects on the globe over the last year have been catastrophic.

Has anyone affected the globe for the better or worse more than that?

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Time Magazine Person of the Year is most influential person for "Better or Worse" (Original post)	stevenleser	Nov 2017	OP
The difference with Trump is...	lame54	Nov 2017	#1
Putin would be a good choice under those criteria.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Nov 2017	#2
Agreed. My wife just said that to me. She also suggested "Internet hackers" as a group.	stevenleser	Nov 2017	#3
I agree with Putin too its obvious from the criteria anyway. Putins had far more influence than	anneboleyn	Nov 2017	#4
He was in 2007--should have been last year, given he elected Trump.	hlthe2b	Nov 2017	#6
You're right; I'd forgotten.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Nov 2017	#7
I'm guessing puppetmaster Putin will be on the cover (for worse). nt	SunSeeker	Nov 2017	#5
The power behind the throne: Putin	The Blue Flower	Nov 2017	#8
This was true but I don't buy it's true anymore...	Drunken Irishman	Nov 2017	#9
I'll say Kim Jung Un or the #Metoo Movement.	greatauntoftriplets	Nov 2017	#10
Ashley Judd	oberliner	Nov 2017	#11

Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:35 PM

lame54 (33,622 posts)

1. The difference with Trump is...

He has already made himself Time MOTY and posted his fake mag covers at his resorts

Maybe Time figures that is good enough

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:36 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (107,034 posts)

2. Putin would be a good choice under those criteria.

I'd kind of like to see a picture of him on the cover, holding the strings of a Trump marionette. It would drive Dolt 45 nuts.

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:38 PM

stevenleser (32,886 posts)

3. Agreed. My wife just said that to me. She also suggested "Internet hackers" as a group.

I think all three are good choices.

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:40 PM

anneboleyn (5,611 posts)

4. I agree with Putin too its obvious from the criteria anyway. Putins had far more influence than

Trump on a global scale. Trump is just Putin’s puppet (one of them)

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:42 PM

hlthe2b (96,629 posts)

6. He was in 2007--should have been last year, given he elected Trump.

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:45 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (107,034 posts)

7. You're right; I'd forgotten.

But considering what's happened since, he might "deserve" it again this year.

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 02:42 PM

SunSeeker (49,138 posts)

5. I'm guessing puppetmaster Putin will be on the cover (for worse). nt

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:04 PM

The Blue Flower (5,138 posts)

8. The power behind the throne: Putin

Also, the hand up the puppet's ample butt.

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:13 PM

Drunken Irishman (34,857 posts)

9. This was true but I don't buy it's true anymore...

There's a reason bin Laden didn't get it in 2001 despite literally being the most influential person of that year (it went to Giuliani as a feel good move). It's far more political now and despite the idea that even bad people end up being selected (universally bad, not like George Bush or Trump last year bad), you know, American enemies, it hasn't been that way for a long, long time. It's generally the president when he wins election or some social influencer. Very predictable.

If it is Trump, they're not going to focus on his horrible side. They may talk up the division we've seen but it'll be a semi-flattering piece.

But I don't think it will be Trump. He's been loud but hasn't really influenced anything.

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Response to stevenleser (Original post)

Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:37 PM

greatauntoftriplets (174,492 posts)

10. I'll say Kim Jung Un or the #Metoo Movement.

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Sat Nov 25, 2017, 03:43 PM

oberliner (58,724 posts)

11. Ashley Judd

Transformed our society forever - and for the better.

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