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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhile I am NO fan of Steve Schmidt,
he is chewing the Repigs a spanking new asshole on Lawrence ODonnell.....
As a Repig Consultant, that says a LOT...
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Well, that and the fact that Trump is horrible.
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)and many are completely silent.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)The GOP has long pandered to racists and other assorted bigots and Steve Schmidt was right there supporting them.
Any republican acting as if they didn't have a hand in what is happening now is a liar. Sure, they could really believe Trump is the most horrible thing to ever come along and they could attack him daily - but nothing changes all those years they supported and propped up the Republican Party - from Nixon and the Southern strategy, to all things Lee Atwater to Poppy Bush's (Atwater/Ailes) "Willie Horton" ads to Shrub's torture program.
Sorry - no. They get no pass from me. They don't get to pretend that had no role in what the GOP is today.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)tRump is a serious danger to the world and right now Schmidt is an ally of ours
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)as obvious in his racism as Trump is, he can go back to being the enemy again, I suppose.
The past is prologue.
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)different than Trump. It will be nauseating.
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)I enjoy those mornings without regret too much to do otherwise. No walk of shame for me.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)I love it when republicans attack other republicans. I think the Trump freaks are going to win this one though - against republicans like Schmidt, that is.
I'm not sure he realizes he is dinosaur to his own party. McConnell and Ryan are working against Schmidt...it isn't just Trump and his freaks.
There! That's the closest to saying a nice thing about Schmidt I have ever come.
You did that!! It's all because of you!!
I'll have to take a nap soon to get over being so warm and fuzzy about Schmidt.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)Stopped clock and all that!
Because he's marginally smart enough to see that the buffoon is the logical extension of their 40 year approach, doesn't absolve him of his horrible philosophy!
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)He's fighting for his party. I get that. Still, Trump is the end result of everything Schmidt supported in the past. How did he not see it happening? A lot of us did.
He simply didn't care because he thought his kind would always be in charge of the GOP. Never once considered that the GOP pandering to the very worst in human nature would come back to bite them - to bite all of us. Yet he promoted Palin - which should have been a clue. The Tea Party should have been a clue. All the evidence was there - and he didn't care - as long as the GOP didn't look bad and those elements were on the fringe - well, that fringe is now in charge. They managed to get rid of Boehner - yet another clue.
I can't give him a pass. I can't give any republican a pass - Trump is the monster they created. And people like Schmidt never seem to own it so much as try to distance themselves from him.
Well, poo on that.
herding cats
(19,564 posts)He's not your friend. You can take that to the bank!
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Schmidt isn't against Trump because Trump is bad for America - he is against Trump because Trump is bad for the republican party. To be exact, how the GOP is perceived. It's no less about the optics for Schmidt.
Huge difference there.
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)He full well knew that she was totally deficient.
I like Schimdt, and enjoy watching the smoke come out of his ears.
But I have no illusions about where his loyalties belong.
And yes it is with the GOP whose brand is being tarnished right now.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Exactly. No illusions about his loyalties and how quick his tune will change once Trump is gone.
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)Steve just about lost it. I have never seen him so angry and disgusted.
The smoke poured out of his ears.
I almost liked him that night.
But yes as soon as we get a pretend respectable GOP candidate Steve will go back to his old ways.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)I actually do believe he hates Trump. I just don't think he has any love for the Democratic Party - which means he stands for the things I stand against.
It's a lot like those anti-women people who call themselves "pro-life" - Sure, we might both agree children are the future (in the sense that children grow up to be adults who have children and so on and so forth, and the species continues into the future - because time - it continues on... oblivious to the wants of humans) but that's not the same as agreeing that women are capable of making their own decisions and should be free to do so without interference from others.
Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)But he doesn't like or respect Democrats.
Which means he and I are on opposite sides.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)You think their appeals to racism only started up with Trump?
Of course you don't think that because you know better.
As do I.
No republican gets to pretend they didn't help create Trump. I believe he doesn't like Trump but that doesn't change his support for a party that gave rise to Trump - through years and years of pandering to racists, years and years of attacking science and promoting ignorance. (discounting facts in favor of feelings)
I don't have a short memory. He doesn't get a pass.
pnwmom
(108,976 posts)chunk of the Republican party -- he thinks about 25%.
So I'm glad he's speaking out and I want him to continue to do so, as loudly as possible.
We can fight people like Schmidt on the issues when and if we get out from under DT. Right now, he's an ally.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)the case.
I simply won't speak well of him.
There is a difference.
njhoneybadger
(3,910 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,922 posts)can throw him. He can trash talk Trump all he wants.
But he doesn't like or respect Democrats and he never will.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I can ally with them, despite our differences. We need to find that common ground or the republic is finished.
Fascists? Fuck no. They are holding pond scum.
tblue37
(65,334 posts)Also Rick Wilson, David Frum, Jennifer Rubin, and Richard Painter.
But they all helped pave the way for where the Republican Party is now, and for the GOP base's and the Trump cult's demonization of Democrats and liberals, to the point where a child molester seems better to them than a Democrat or liberal.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)to hit MUTE or change the channel...that is not something I can say for many right wingers these days.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)I have to change the channel for a couple minutes when most of them are on!
When those mentioned here are on, I can listen but do think "where were you 20 years ago?"
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)ass. They were the ones who poo-pooed Hillary healthcare plan since she was "just a stupid first lady and should busy herself with redecorating the White House dining room". That is who they are. Now that they are anti-moron they have gained some sense of right and wrong but not enough to suit me. Like all the GOP...they are sane for a brief, flashing moment in time.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts). . .ran Newt out of town on a rail! Now he's relevant again? I don't think so.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)Many of the best critiques of Trump come from the Republican establishment columnists. Jennifer Rubin is tops, IMHO.
Hekate
(90,645 posts)... and choked up about the danger to our country that Trump poses. He and Nicolle Wallace were there together. I knew then that I was dealng with two fellow-patriots -- we agree on the essentials; we can discuss the rest.
nini
(16,672 posts)We need people like Schmidt to speak up and call their party on this crap.
I've been listening to him for some time and he's always been willing to criticize his own.
MrScorpio
(73,630 posts)However, there are times when we can share common ground with the ones who we share common principles.
When we all agree to go beyond partisanship and do what's best for the good of the nation, that should be acknowledged.
chillfactor
(7,574 posts)on CNN and MSNBC..he has really reamed the GOP and I love listening to him...his past history only makes his remarks more credible.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and his idiotic supporters. I'm a very liberal Dem, and I still like both of them for having some integrity.