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calimary

(81,195 posts)
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:44 AM Jul 2012

Has anybody seen this? The Batman movie mass murderer was a Democrat?????

I got this in my email. Mods - I'm not sure about the need for editing or excerpting a press release.

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Friday, July 20, 2012 4:03 PM
Dr. Ted Baehr Responds to DARK KNIGHT Shooting in Colorado
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Movieguide Press Release
Friday, July 20, 2012
Dr. Ted Baehr Responds to DARK KNIGHT Shooting in Colorado
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE CONTACT: Tom Snyder

805– 383– 2000, tom@movieguide.org

Dr. Ted Baehr Responds to DARK KNIGHT Shooting in Colorado

Date: Friday, July 20, 2012

Hollywood, California – In a statement today, Christian media scholar and family values advocate Dr. Ted Baehr responded to the news of the shooting massacre of at least a dozen people early this morning in Aurora, Colo. at a midnight showing of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES:

"The shooting at the midnight showing of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES will be blamed on many things.

"One reporter who called me this morning blamed it on violence in movies. Certainly, violence in movies, television, and video games has had a tremendous impact on society. Over 500,000 studies, capped by the latest Dartmouth University study, show that violence in the media influences susceptible youths to commit violence. That said, most people are not susceptible. Most are just desensitized or scared.

"Another reporter blamed it specifically on the Batman movies. Yet, THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is nowhere near as violent as the last Batman movie, and Batman himself tells Catwoman not to shoot to kill in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. The message of THE DARK KNIGHT RISES is justice and self– sacrifice. The villains and the killers in the movie are the 'socialist left– wing Occupy Wall Street power to the people' villain Bane and his compatriots, who are clearly shown to be wrong, evil and bad, and who get their comeuppance. Also, it would have been almost impossible for this killer in Colorado to have even seen the new Batman movie before the 12:30 screening.

"Some people will blame it on guns, although countries that have tried hard to crack down on guns, like England, are now finding that knives and head butting are out of control. Thus, it isn't the head– butting or the knives, but the fact that people are stewing in the juice of their own wickedness, because, as the Bible says, they don't know the loving God who gave us a way of salvation through Jesus Christ from the wickedness of the human heart.

"Some people will blame poverty, or a lack of education. But, James Holmes, the alleged killer, was getting his doctorate in neuroscience and came from an upper middle class family!

"People will look at every possible reason – maybe some will ponder the fact that Holmes was a Democrat and hated the anti– socialist message of the movie.

"Actually, none of these reasons answer the question 'Why.' The fact is that this is an evil act committed by an evil person, who did not know the truth of Jesus Christ that would set him free from such wickedness. The answer is not more laws, the answer is not to banish movies, nor neuroscience programs, nor weapons that can be used to protect, but rather to get the Word of God out. Because 'faith comes through hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ (Romans 10:17).'

"I used to be on the radical left, but Jesus Christ got hold of me, and I've tried to live my life every day by enjoying Him, using the power of God's Holy Spirit. As the Word of God says in Galatians 5:22– 23, 'The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, forbearance, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self– control. Against such things there is no law.'

"If you ban the fruit of the Spirit of Jesus Christ from society, including the education system, you're not banning God; you're banning goodness, justice, truth, peace, kindness, joy, gentleness, self– control, and love."

Editor's Note: Dr. Baehr is chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission® (CFTVC) ministry and director of its family guide to movies and entertainment, Movieguide® (www.movieguide.org). Founded in 1985 by Dr. Baehr and Good News Communications, CFTVC and Movieguide® are an international non– profit ministry, advocacy group, and watchdog dedicated to "redeeming the values of the entertainment industry by influencing industry executives and by informing and equipping the public about the influence of the entertainment media."

For more information, visit www.movieguide.org or call 1– 888– 248– 6689.

For an interview with Dr. Ted Baehr, please contact Tahlia at 1– 888– 248– 6689 or tahlia.m@movieguide.org.

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Has anybody seen this? The Batman movie mass murderer was a Democrat????? (Original Post) calimary Jul 2012 OP
Dr. Baehr is chairman of the Christian Film & Television Commission NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #1
His party affiliation is not really relevant. Loudly Jul 2012 #2
He threw that out there like it was common knowledge sadbear Jul 2012 #3
Rumor originated at Breitbart, now debunked. madamesilverspurs Jul 2012 #4
I got your back... here you go. Fawke Em Jul 2012 #11
I question the source. Kalidurga Jul 2012 #5
The shooter was NOT a Democrat. The OP is right-wing propaganda. n/t Tx4obama Jul 2012 #6
With so many self-professed Democrats posting in DU right now sadbear Jul 2012 #7
You don't know that. I don't emilyg Jul 2012 #13
See comment #4. It's already been debunked. n/t Tx4obama Jul 2012 #15
Thank you for your concern. aquart Jul 2012 #8
The only useful thing about that email is you can add Baehr to your ignore list Bucky Jul 2012 #9
This is one of the weirdest posts I've read Politicub Jul 2012 #10
Why post this garbage? REP Jul 2012 #12
Who knew head-butting was "out of control" in England? limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #14
Maybe he watched a soccer game once... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #21
yes maybe he got confused as to what he was watching. that happens sometimes. limpyhobbler Jul 2012 #23
Do you believe everything you read in chain emails????? CJCRANE Jul 2012 #16
I put it out there to fact-check and make sure that a correction was issued. calimary Jul 2012 #17
no, he was a deranged asshole spanone Jul 2012 #18
right wing nazis fascisthunter Jul 2012 #19
Well that's really interesting that this Dr Ted has more knowledge about the shooter than jillan Jul 2012 #20
Mental health issues can affect mzteris Jul 2012 #22
debunked yesterday riverwalker Jul 2012 #24
Christian media scholar and family values advocate should B Calm Jul 2012 #25
 

Loudly

(2,436 posts)
2. His party affiliation is not really relevant.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:46 AM
Jul 2012

He took advantage of ultra tolerant gun laws, and that shit needs to end.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
3. He threw that out there like it was common knowledge
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:47 AM
Jul 2012

But I do guess it is fairly safe to assume that if someone attains the education of a Ph.D student, there is a good chance that person is at least liberal in a lot of ways.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
11. I got your back... here you go.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:04 AM
Jul 2012
http://www.motherjones.com/mojo/2012/07/dark-knight-rises-theater-shooting-idiocy-begins

Dozens of people are injured. At least 12 people are dead. The body count could rise. Even the 2012 attack dogs are taking a siesta from the partisan mudslinging in the wake of the tragedy. If you're going to publish a story about an alleged mass murderer's politics, you had better get it right.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
5. I question the source.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:51 AM
Jul 2012

Some would say the shooter is a Democrat. Some would say the shooter is a Tea Part Member. Some would say he is mentally ill. Right now we have little fact to go on and a lot of speculation. I think we need to have a discussion about why we don't have a process for seeing this kind of thing coming. I heard that his mother was not surprised. That should give us pause for concern.

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
7. With so many self-professed Democrats posting in DU right now
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 12:56 AM
Jul 2012

would you really be surprised if Holmes professed to be one, too?

Bucky

(53,986 posts)
9. The only useful thing about that email is you can add Baehr to your ignore list
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 01:00 AM
Jul 2012

As stated above, the shooter was a sick individual. His violent antisocial behavior speaks neither to Republican nor Democratic philosophies. It speaks to neither gun control nor total gun freedom political ideologies. He's a deranged, amoral man who felt left out from society and decided to lash out for what will prove to be, no doubt, entirely irrational reasons. Perhaps he was egged on by provocative language irresponsibly thrown about in our public discourse. The tragedy of this shooting speaks to how isolated the mentally ill can be in our society. Someone should've caught this young man before he killed and interfered. Perhaps someone tried. In my guts I don't want to accede to the view that society is mostly powerless to stop all the future incidents of this kind. The powerlessness to protect the innocent, or to keep from becoming an innocent victim of this sort of random crime, is painful to contemplate. But it's there. We can improve social services, raise awareness of mental illness and the consequences of violent imagery in our social messaging, but we'll never build in guaranteed security against random violence.

limpyhobbler

(8,244 posts)
23. yes maybe he got confused as to what he was watching. that happens sometimes.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 03:14 AM
Jul 2012

Last edited Sat Jul 21, 2012, 04:17 AM - Edit history (2)

calimary

(81,195 posts)
17. I put it out there to fact-check and make sure that a correction was issued.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:00 AM
Jul 2012

I'm sending that Mother Jones link to these assholes and alerting them that it's beneath them to be spreading lies, libel, and slander.

YES it's a chain email. That means it's going out to others who aren't paying much attention but could believe it. They'll take it for granted and not seek out the truth. They'll just swallow it the same way they swallow what limbaugh says and that everyone at Pox Noise says. These people who issue these emails are hoping to influence public opinion and they're also hoping that no one's paying attention. It rattles their cages when somebody calls them on it. I frankly don't expect them to do anything about it. But they need to know they've been caught, and challenged.

NO I don't believe everything I read especially in chain emails. I do, however, like to fact-check them. Remember, if this was sent to me, it was spammed to hundreds of thousands of people. People who will then believe this and spread the lie to their friends. Finding and posting the truth and correcting the record gives me something substantial to refute them with, when I email them with a complaint. Which I did. And it isn't just me. All of us are seeing these things. And I think it's useful for all of us to have material available to refute shit like this. We can answer with facts and the people parroting this have nothing with which to answer back.

I think it's also wise to spread this around for those who haven't seen it. It's more psy-ops among the extreme wrong wing trying to influence public opinion and dirty the Democrats by inferring that this is one of those dreaded liberal Dems they've spent 30 years resolutely and systematically attacking and demeaning.

I believe in return psy-ops if the bad guys try to send theirs my way.

Anyway, thanks everybody, especially those with the concrete answers. Those are helpful and we all need that data.

jillan

(39,451 posts)
20. Well that's really interesting that this Dr Ted has more knowledge about the shooter than
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:16 AM
Jul 2012

the law enforcement that has been with him all day.

Must be God speaking directly to Dr Ted.

What is frightening are the people that are going to believe this, no questions asked.

mzteris

(16,232 posts)
22. Mental health issues can affect
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 02:22 AM
Jul 2012

Anyone at anytimpme regardless of race, creed color Sex sexual orientation religion or political affiliation.

We need more mental health recognition, treatment, and intervention. We must stop the stigmatization of having a MH problem and encourage those who need help to get help.

It is NOT a personal ailing to have MH issues. I is a failure of society to support help for those who need it.

What happened was a terrible thing, but the man is obviously ill. That's the only actionable and reason. Period.

People who try to gain mileage out of this travesty are more guily IMO. What's their excuse?

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
25. Christian media scholar and family values advocate should
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 06:37 AM
Jul 2012

be a RED FLAG that he's a lying piece of shit! This was debunked!!

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