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Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:12 PM

Where is our counter proposal tax bill?

The best way to underscore the flaws in the Pubs tax bill would be to offer our own. It also counters their claims of obstructionism. I think everyone can agree the current convoluted nightmare of tax regs and loopholes is an abomination. We need to show America what real tax reform should look like.

Why haven't we put forth our own proposal?

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Amishman Nov 2017 OP
unblock Nov 2017 #1
Amishman Nov 2017 #2
unblock Nov 2017 #4
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #9
FSogol Nov 2017 #3
bigbrother05 Nov 2017 #5
standingtall Nov 2017 #6
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #8
Demsrule86 Nov 2017 #7

Response to Amishman (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:16 PM

1. counter proposal to solve *what problem*??? unemployment's low, markets are high, what needs fixing?

taxes changed under obama, the economy improved, and we've felt no great need for a change since then.


sure, we could come up with a more progressive plan that has zero chance of passing with all these republicans around, but there's little point in that. for the time being we're fine with tax policy as it is.

there's no need to put up a plan that can't pass, and no wisdom in giving republicans an easy target.

supporting current tax policy is a perfectly fine position for the time being.

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Response to unblock (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:19 PM

2. Plenty of problems

Corporate tax code is riddled with loopholes that let certain companies duck paying their fair share

Middle class pays too much

The rich pay far too little

More can be done to help the poor

It's way too hard to do your own taxes, particularly if you itemize or have multiple incomes. Paid tax preparation should not be an $11 billion dollar industry

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Response to Amishman (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:42 PM

4. now is absolutely the wrong time to roll out any alternative.

i agree that there are plenty of progressive changes i'd love to see after the 2020 election when we have the white house and both houses of congress

but right now, if we present a progressive alternative, it will only serve to kill the status quo as an alternative and it will become a "republican plan vs. democratic plan" and with republicans in charge of everything they will win easily.

our best shot right now by far is to advocate for the status quo until our representation has improved.

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Response to unblock (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:00 PM

9. +1

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:22 PM

3. Our counter propsoal is: don't give unneeded tax cuts to the rich.

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:56 PM

5. Counter proposal - raise taxes on rich/corps enough to fund Medicare for all

Eliminates insurance mandate, employer funding of health care, and CHIP/Medicaid

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:58 PM

6. Our counter proposal should be take back both houses

and win the Presidency and repeal this crap after 2020.

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Response to standingtall (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 01:00 PM

8. +1

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Response to Amishman (Original post)

Thu Nov 30, 2017, 12:59 PM

7. Oh for God's sake...not this again. No it isn't. In fact we have had a tax bill since 13...

and the Dems have done a good job of showing the flaws which is why about 17% are for it...please stop trying to blame Dems...blame the voters who elected these monsters.

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