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ancianita

(35,926 posts)
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:41 PM Dec 2017

The Ineradicable World View: Trump supporters do. not. care.

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I take no satisfaction or pleasure in coming to this realization...It's taken me almost a lifetime...

Trump supporters do. not. care.

I'm a long term liberal progressive in a red region, where I see in the eyes of people who know, as Christians, that it is not right to for them to actually say they don't care.

Not caring, Christian or not, is the Trump supporters' view -- an "ineradicable" world view:

Jane Smiley put it best:

"... Winning without caring how -- or even caring -- is completely American…
... those undocumented whites and migrants who got here fought for control of this landbase...

...in frontier days, the knock-down, drag-out fight was a certain type of combat that people in frontier towns set up and bet on…Men would fight, and other men would watch the mayhem and cheer it on…an American form of recreation…...Genocide was America. Slavery was American. Witch-burning was American.

What conservatives hate about liberals is that liberals repudiate cruelties -- that conservatives know to be truly American -- in the name of something somehow larger, maybe alien.

Conservatives don’t necessarily embrace those cruelties, but they don’t mind them, either, because they think they are natural and American. Just simple scapegoating is pure American search-and-destroy.

Conservatives figure that if Americans killed off the native population, then so be it, since Americans did it, it must be okay….... the price you pay for living here..." Ten Days in The Hills (2008)

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Studying history, "The People's..." and otherwise, I see how right Smiley is.

This "ineradicable" world view -- however Trumpers' or Trump's billionaire cohorts put it, conveniently serves the Austrian School of economics well enough in their own push for dominance over generations, even as the country this "Society" sits in has played the "neutral nation" card, never imposing these economic ideas on its own people.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Pelerin_Society

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mont_Pèlerin_TV_Tower

So Mueller takes years to collect evidence of collusion, Trump and his 26% don't care.

The Right's Billionaire Wing doesn't care, either. Their wealth extraction through U.S.A. land base controls continue now no matter who's president. They've kept alive corporate and wealth goals long after fighting liberal lefties left or ever will leave congress or this Earth. "Rational racism" attacks on any non-white people will continue. Confidence in their legal, social and corporate constructs show.

This view and those who back it are two main reasons why the 80% of the rest of us in America mustmust stop believing that there is any such thing as mutual interest with them. We have nothing in common -- no trafficking in their words, frames, games against democracy or cards against humanity.

No compromise with Trump's 20%, owners, or henchmen in congress, defense companies, military police enforcers, holier-than-thou christo fascist religionists (of ANY religion).

There are only concessions to extract, new gains to make, old gains to maintain. Even then, they will be back -- takawayism is their lifeblood -- even if it's to take away life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

To realize the existence of this world view is to also face that this view and associated forces will not end in our lifetime.

https://www.amazon.com/Democracy-Chains-Histo…/…/ref=sr_1_1…
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/…/61a7Mz9PzQL._SX31…

All the more reason I'm a lifelong progressive Democrat.
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The Ineradicable World View: Trump supporters do. not. care. (Original Post) ancianita Dec 2017 OP
It seems like they don't care if GOP policies hurt them The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2017 #1
Yes! From the days of our racist actions from clearing territories of Indians, to sundown towns ancianita Dec 2017 #2

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,578 posts)
1. It seems like they don't care if GOP policies hurt them
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:44 PM
Dec 2017

as long as those same policies hurt minorities and the poor even more. "If you can convince the lowest white man he's better than the best colored man, he won't notice you're picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he'll empty his pockets for you." - Lyndon Johnson

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
2. Yes! From the days of our racist actions from clearing territories of Indians, to sundown towns
Sat Dec 2, 2017, 03:51 PM
Dec 2017

clearing the night of black people.

There's a great, old compilation called Black Folk Tales by Julius Lester, in which a couple of stories illustrate Lyndon Johnson's words.

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