It's time to declare the White House, the House, the Senate, and Courts no longer Constitutional

[ck4829]

I think we need to start looking at this option. They simply are not the bodies as described as per the US Constitution, but have degenerated into mockeries of it.

Common defense and general welfare - Article I, Section 8. I'll tell you what national security isn't - "There's a mass shooter but he didn't shout "Allahu Ackbar", so it's *just* a mass murder." If this is your idea of public safety, then you aren't contributing to the defense of this country. Period.

We have placed the interests of few (The stock market or as we are seeing in the tax bill, donors) over the interests as the American people as a whole. This is not what representative government is about.

And the interests of the people and what we see our government do keep widely diverging... support for Planned Parenthood, the War on Drugs, healthcare, etc.

An election is not going to fix this. Not by itself. The problem is systemic, and so there must be a systemic way to push back. That means forming organizations and telling bodies overseas to stop recognizing the DC state within a state as a legitimate government. That means having elections free from the occupying party of Trump, McConnell, and Ryan. I have no illusions Trump can be removed from power, but we can take away from the power of the President, so we have to crack the bully pulpit... express disbelief just because the President says it, and yes, leave your "respect for the office" by the door.

We have to withdraw our consent.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. So "we" make that declaration, which, along with $3.00, will get you

a small latte at Starbucks. We can't declare squat. Or, we can "declare" until we're purple in the face and shitting patio blocks, but then what? The only power we have is voting. If voting doesn't work, then what?

[sl8]

15. I don't think you understand the full power of declarations

[FarCenter]

2. There's already a movement for that

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement

[snooper2]

3. m, okay- DECLARED! LOL, now what? do we get the army on our side for a coup?

Form our own? Stop paying taxes to break the bank? Can I be ambassador to Antarctica before it is gone? LOL

[WillowTree]

4. What you're suggesting would require a new Constitutional Convention.

How likely do you think it is that that's going to happen?

Really. How likely?

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

8. That would be the WORST thing that could happen

because with right-wingers controlling a lot of state governments a rewritten constitution could be a real disaster.

[WillowTree]

9. Also that.

[NCTraveler]

5. A couple of issues.

1) No one is going to claim anything constitutional because elected politicians call a mass murderer a mass murderer.
2) "We have placed the interests of few (The stock market or as we are seeing in the tax bill, donors) over the interests as the American people as a whole." - "We have almost always...." There is nothing new about this with respect to the US. It's par for the course and what we are fighting to change.

[AmericanActivist]

6. K n R nm

[sarisataka]

7. Sure, I'll help

I declare the White House, the House, the Senate, and Courts no longer Constitutional

Ok, now what?

I guess I can write a new governing document but I am only Me the Person, not We the People so don't know if it will go very far.


I think what you are suggesting is a revolution. Those can get messy as the sitting government rarely is complacent when it is ignored and replaced.

[Lurks Often]

10. LOL, you go right ahead and see how far it gets you

The most likely result would be you either getting arrested or sent for psychiatric evaluation at the nearest hospital.

[delisen]

17. Pretty much what colonists were told in 1775 I guess

but they did go on to win.

In 1775 those in revolt won.

In 1860 those in revolt lost.

In 2017 we do not not yet know the outcome.

All three struggles center on legality and legitimacy.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

11. I hereby declare the White House, the House, the Senate, and Courts no longer Constitutional.

OK. All done; good to go.

[LanternWaste]

12. Reading stuff like this compels me to wish civics and government classes were still taught.

Reading stuff like this compels me to wish civics and government classes were still taught.

Withdraw your consent from science while you're at it... it's just as valid.

[delisen]

18. Principle of the consent of the governed is taught.

[Tommy_Carcetti]

13. What? Nt

[Codeine]

14. Skinner needs to make high school civics knowledge

a basic requirement for posting privileges here.

[delisen]

16. You have a good point. We are in Revolution #3

[librechik]

19. complicit . Period. Soldout for cash and forcing women to bring all pregnancies to term

It is their Biblical right.

https://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053

[onenote]

20. This option as you call it is non-existent as a legal matter

But it’s certainly your right under the constitution to advocate the making of pointless declarations