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Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:44 PM

 

They took down one of our best fighters against Trump with mostly anonymous complaints

...mostly unbelievable complaints, at that. At the very least, this should have been buttressed by a dual call for the resignation of the POTUS for his own 'admitted' crimes against women.

What happens next should be obvious to all. Republicans will continue to deny wrongdoing and evade accountability, still in power, still crafting legislation and advancing Trump's dismantling of democracy.

The right-wing has to be overjoyed. This is a formula that has worked since Iran-Contra failed to bring down Reagan-Bush, and has been a standard of republican politics since Democrats failed to hold Bush Jr. accountable for tortures, renditions, and for his lies leading the nation to war in Iraq (the consequences, a continued war).

We paid with 'Benghazi' investigations, and a phony email investigation which were allowed to mushroom as Democrats allowed both undue legitimacy, and even encouragement from some of our quarters, in the case of Hillary's emails.

If this latest self-immolation isn't part of a larger strategy of zero-tolerance for more than just our own party members, it will turn out to be a dagger in the back of every other attempt to hold republicans and their WH accountable, at least for the foreseeable future.

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Reply They took down one of our best fighters against Trump with mostly anonymous complaints (Original post)
bigtree Dec 2017 OP
bettyellen Dec 2017 #1
greeny2323 Dec 2017 #2
Roy Rolling Dec 2017 #27
RKP5637 Dec 2017 #3
flamingdem Dec 2017 #4
brooklynite Dec 2017 #9
kcr Dec 2017 #10
wisteria Dec 2017 #19
tinrobot Dec 2017 #21
Egnever Dec 2017 #30
msongs Dec 2017 #5
Duppers Dec 2017 #6
BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #7
fleabiscuit Dec 2017 #8
bigtree Dec 2017 #37
uponit7771 Dec 2017 #39
ck4829 Dec 2017 #40
lastlib Dec 2017 #11
wisteria Dec 2017 #20
woolldog Dec 2017 #12
orleans Dec 2017 #13
wisteria Dec 2017 #22
Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #14
woolldog Dec 2017 #15
Kirk Lover Dec 2017 #17
joshcryer Dec 2017 #16
Cryptoad Dec 2017 #18
KT2000 Dec 2017 #23
burrowowl Dec 2017 #24
EricMaundry Dec 2017 #25
Kittycow Dec 2017 #36
2left4u Dec 2017 #26
Doodley Dec 2017 #28
LisaL Dec 2017 #29
Doodley Dec 2017 #31
Willie Pep Dec 2017 #32
LisaL Dec 2017 #33
Willie Pep Dec 2017 #34
Tatiana Dec 2017 #35
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bigtree Dec 2017 #38
bigtree Dec 2017 #41

Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:47 PM

1. And the last one is angry at Dems right now. Not a non-partisan in the bunch. Telling.

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:47 PM

2. Exactly

 

They turned on Franken before there was an investigation and meanwhile they never fight against Republicans. We almost never hear from them!

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Response to greeny2323 (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:51 AM

27. The Same

These are the same "firebrands" who were silent and let Obama's pick for the Supreme Court not even get a hearing. There was no outcry for McConnell to resign for shirking his sworn responsibility and fuc*ing every righteous person in America.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:48 PM

3. The GOP knows how to play the game, the dems sit on the sidelines and wonder WTF! It's

no wonder the GOP wins elections.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:53 PM

4. Gillibrand and the rest are not terribly bright

At least we learn that this group is not capable of good leadership.

We need to look elsewhere for that

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Response to flamingdem (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:05 AM

9. The Majority of Senate Dems (and Independents) called for him to step down...

...including Sanders and Warren.

"Not terribly bright"...

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:07 AM

10. Indeed

Just like the ones who voted to defund ACORN! Definitely should keep encouraging this strategy! Maybe a topic at the next dinner?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:10 AM

19. Not in regards to this they werent.

And Sanders better watch, he is no saint.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:12 AM

21. ...and open a seat for the GOP to take in 2018

They're not very good at politics, either.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #9)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:18 AM

30. Your dinner circle got this one terribly wrong.

 

Might have been the most destructive thing they could have done to the base and the party. If you think we are all fools who just follow wherever they decide to lead us you are terribly mistaken.

Seems the only thing they stand for is an appearance of righteousness with none of the actual righteousness.

Impeach trump? Nope throw out Franken.

Fucking brilliant.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Wed Dec 6, 2017, 11:59 PM

5. they democrats. nice nt

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:57 AM

6. Hell yes!!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:03 AM

7. DISTRACTIONS TO PASS THE TAX SCAM!

GOP DIRTY TRICKS! DO NOT FALL FOR IT!

If you do, then you deserve what ever you GET! I AM FIGHTING BACK! What about you?

If this doesn't make you more determined to destroy the GOP party of bastards than you are not a Dem.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:05 AM

8. Eight victims. nt

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 10:34 AM

37. eight allegations

 

...the first just not credible, and most of them anonymous.

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:00 PM

39. Due process

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #39)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 12:04 PM

40. Hey! Due process is only for Republicans and people with affluenza!

What are you, some kind of legal Marxist?

... from me anyway.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:14 AM

11. Al Franken should NOT give sexual predator in chief P***y-Grabber the satisfaction

of his resignation.

This is f*cking heart-breaking that outstanding progressive fighters get taken down, while GOPee pervs like dRumpf and Moore get essentially free passes. How do we stop this sh1t?

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Response to lastlib (Reply #11)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:11 AM

20. I agree.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:19 AM

12. I blame the feminists. nt

 

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Response to woolldog (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:31 AM

13. you forgot that little sarcasm thingy n/t

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Response to woolldog (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:12 AM

22. I blame Gillibrand first, and the rest of the party that stabbed him in the back.

They can all go to hell. Stupid, foolish move.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:36 AM

14. I know, I know...but we still have the best fighter and that's MUELLER.

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #14)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:38 AM

15. Well, I hear Mueller

 

danced a little too close to his prom date in the 70s. It's just a matter of time before he's forced to resign when those details come out.

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Response to woolldog (Reply #15)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:47 AM

17. LOL...Mueller grinding huh? He's bullet proof this guy and he needs to be with these foul

 

Republicans.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:40 AM

16. Mind you, they did it using our own virtue signaling.

Which is why this purity shit is going to backfire hard as fuck.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:48 AM

18. Solution,,,,,,,,,,

Body Cams,, Body Cams,,,,24-7

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:21 AM

23. Great post!

I am heartsick and losing hope. It is our own senators who are taking him down. Is this a case of the old guard taking down an uppity newbie? I am beginning to wonder about this.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:38 AM

24. K&R!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:40 AM

25. Yep. They didn't even break a sweat doing it

 

The so-called "democrats" falling all over themselves to run Franken out of the Senate are pawns in the GOP/Putin game.

I am besides myself with anger over this.

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Response to EricMaundry (Reply #25)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 05:06 AM

36. I know exactly how you feel about the anger ...

I'm ready to walk away from giving a shit about politics because of this.

They forcefully rally on the basis of untried allegations but don't forcefully rally FOR US!!!

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 02:45 AM

26. And

 

They took out Conyers..how long was he in?
By doing that they've boxed us...they've have pushed us into creating a bar that the GOP doesn't follow.


All the hash tags about being the resistance...resist etc, etc, etc. Slogans we are supposed to follow yet the DNC establishment starts cannibalizing our own high profile members.

The GOP manipulates the situation to where we take the high road while all they do is take advantage of it thru their own lack of ethics.

We lose Conyers and Franken while the GOP elects a pedophile...where do I live? What kind of world is this?

I wish Obama was still in.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:10 AM

28. I don't see how defending Franken helps us. We start to sound like them when we dismiss

these multiple allegations. Franken has been a strong voice, but he will never earn back the respect he has lost. All that will happen if he clings on is that the GOP will argue that we are no better or worse than them every time allegations against them are made.

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Response to Doodley (Reply #28)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:11 AM

29. And what are we going to do every time allegations against us are made?

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Response to LisaL (Reply #29)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:20 AM

31. Al Franken has admitted to at least part of the allegations. He needs to go. Period. Do we want to

look like a party that defends sexual harassment or one that will not tolerate it?

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:21 AM

32. It really comes down to the differences between the two parties.

The GOP could run an axe murderer for high office and the GOP base would still come out to vote for them. Democrats are held to a higher standard by everyone including Democratic voters. In a better world this would work to our advantage as we would be seen as the more upright party but it doesn't. Instead our voters become demoralized and often stay home or vote third party while the GOP wins with their broken glass Republican loyalists who come out no matter who is running as long as an "R" is next to their name.

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Response to Willie Pep (Reply #32)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:26 AM

33. That's exactly what happened in 2016.

Republicans came out and voted despite all the things Trump was accused of, and all his history, and Hillary wrote some emails so she wasn't good enough for enough people to come out and vote.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:33 AM

34. Exactly. nt.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:54 AM

35. I'm just heartsick over this.

Not only has Franken categorically denied the latest allegation, but to witness the self-satisfied mini presser that Gillibrand gave espousing a "zero tolerance" policy when we have a p*ssy-grabber in-chief as President is simply unbelievable.

Unless they know something we don't, they are shown to be poor leaders, who don't research the facts first and then make decisions. I would not want to have any of these people on a Presidential ticket and I am very disappointed in my own Senators from Illinois, who appear to be cowardly bandwagonneers.

We need real fighters. The Republicans never stop fighting. They never back down. And we always throw in the towel and cave, running away with our tail in-between our legs.

We're never going to win until we learn how to fight fire with fire. Maybe some of the new Democrats coming up will have these killer instincts our party so desperately needs.

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 11:52 AM

38. .

 

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Response to bigtree (Original post)

Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:07 PM

41. that's it then...

 

...we are deeply fucked.

Moving on, hope we find the same effort from Dem pols toward our poisonous opposition. Not holding my breath.

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