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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey took down one of our best fighters against Trump with mostly anonymous complaints
...mostly unbelievable complaints, at that. At the very least, this should have been buttressed by a dual call for the resignation of the POTUS for his own 'admitted' crimes against women.
What happens next should be obvious to all. Republicans will continue to deny wrongdoing and evade accountability, still in power, still crafting legislation and advancing Trump's dismantling of democracy.
The right-wing has to be overjoyed. This is a formula that has worked since Iran-Contra failed to bring down Reagan-Bush, and has been a standard of republican politics since Democrats failed to hold Bush Jr. accountable for tortures, renditions, and for his lies leading the nation to war in Iraq (the consequences, a continued war).
We paid with 'Benghazi' investigations, and a phony email investigation which were allowed to mushroom as Democrats allowed both undue legitimacy, and even encouragement from some of our quarters, in the case of Hillary's emails.
If this latest self-immolation isn't part of a larger strategy of zero-tolerance for more than just our own party members, it will turn out to be a dagger in the back of every other attempt to hold republicans and their WH accountable, at least for the foreseeable future.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)greeny2323
(590 posts)They turned on Franken before there was an investigation and meanwhile they never fight against Republicans. We almost never hear from them!
Roy Rolling
(6,911 posts)These are the same "firebrands" who were silent and let Obama's pick for the Supreme Court not even get a hearing. There was no outcry for McConnell to resign for shirking his sworn responsibility and fuc*ing every righteous person in America.
RKP5637
(67,101 posts)no wonder the GOP wins elections.
flamingdem
(39,312 posts)At least we learn that this group is not capable of good leadership.
We need to look elsewhere for that
brooklynite
(94,480 posts)...including Sanders and Warren.
"Not terribly bright"...
Just like the ones who voted to defund ACORN! Definitely should keep encouraging this strategy! Maybe a topic at the next dinner?
wisteria
(19,581 posts)And Sanders better watch, he is no saint.
tinrobot
(10,891 posts)They're not very good at politics, either.
Egnever
(21,506 posts)Might have been the most destructive thing they could have done to the base and the party. If you think we are all fools who just follow wherever they decide to lead us you are terribly mistaken.
Seems the only thing they stand for is an appearance of righteousness with none of the actual righteousness.
Impeach trump? Nope throw out Franken.
Fucking brilliant.
msongs
(67,381 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,582 posts)GOP DIRTY TRICKS! DO NOT FALL FOR IT!
If you do, then you deserve what ever you GET! I AM FIGHTING BACK! What about you?
If this doesn't make you more determined to destroy the GOP party of bastards than you are not a Dem.
fleabiscuit
(4,542 posts)bigtree
(85,984 posts)...the first just not credible, and most of them anonymous.
uponit7771
(90,326 posts)ck4829
(35,041 posts)What are you, some kind of legal Marxist?
... from me anyway.
lastlib
(23,194 posts)of his resignation.
This is f*cking heart-breaking that outstanding progressive fighters get taken down, while GOPee pervs like dRumpf and Moore get essentially free passes. How do we stop this sh1t?
wisteria
(19,581 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)orleans
(34,043 posts)wisteria
(19,581 posts)They can all go to hell. Stupid, foolish move.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)woolldog
(8,791 posts)danced a little too close to his prom date in the 70s. It's just a matter of time before he's forced to resign when those details come out.
Kirk Lover
(3,608 posts)Republicans.
joshcryer
(62,269 posts)Which is why this purity shit is going to backfire hard as fuck.
Cryptoad
(8,254 posts)Body Cams,, Body Cams,,,,24-7
KT2000
(20,571 posts)I am heartsick and losing hope. It is our own senators who are taking him down. Is this a case of the old guard taking down an uppity newbie? I am beginning to wonder about this.
burrowowl
(17,636 posts)EricMaundry
(1,619 posts)The so-called "democrats" falling all over themselves to run Franken out of the Senate are pawns in the GOP/Putin game.
I am besides myself with anger over this.
Kittycow
(2,396 posts)I'm ready to walk away from giving a shit about politics because of this.
They forcefully rally on the basis of untried allegations but don't forcefully rally FOR US!!!
They took out Conyers..how long was he in?
By doing that they've boxed us...they've have pushed us into creating a bar that the GOP doesn't follow.
All the hash tags about being the resistance...resist etc, etc, etc. Slogans we are supposed to follow yet the DNC establishment starts cannibalizing our own high profile members.
The GOP manipulates the situation to where we take the high road while all they do is take advantage of it thru their own lack of ethics.
We lose Conyers and Franken while the GOP elects a pedophile...where do I live? What kind of world is this?
I wish Obama was still in.
Doodley
(9,077 posts)these multiple allegations. Franken has been a strong voice, but he will never earn back the respect he has lost. All that will happen if he clings on is that the GOP will argue that we are no better or worse than them every time allegations against them are made.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Doodley
(9,077 posts)look like a party that defends sexual harassment or one that will not tolerate it?
Willie Pep
(841 posts)The GOP could run an axe murderer for high office and the GOP base would still come out to vote for them. Democrats are held to a higher standard by everyone including Democratic voters. In a better world this would work to our advantage as we would be seen as the more upright party but it doesn't. Instead our voters become demoralized and often stay home or vote third party while the GOP wins with their broken glass Republican loyalists who come out no matter who is running as long as an "R" is next to their name.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)Republicans came out and voted despite all the things Trump was accused of, and all his history, and Hillary wrote some emails so she wasn't good enough for enough people to come out and vote.
Willie Pep
(841 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)Not only has Franken categorically denied the latest allegation, but to witness the self-satisfied mini presser that Gillibrand gave espousing a "zero tolerance" policy when we have a p*ssy-grabber in-chief as President is simply unbelievable.
Unless they know something we don't, they are shown to be poor leaders, who don't research the facts first and then make decisions. I would not want to have any of these people on a Presidential ticket and I am very disappointed in my own Senators from Illinois, who appear to be cowardly bandwagonneers.
We need real fighters. The Republicans never stop fighting. They never back down. And we always throw in the towel and cave, running away with our tail in-between our legs.
We're never going to win until we learn how to fight fire with fire. Maybe some of the new Democrats coming up will have these killer instincts our party so desperately needs.
bigtree
(85,984 posts)...we are deeply fucked.
Moving on, hope we find the same effort from Dem pols toward our poisonous opposition. Not holding my breath.