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wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:06 PM Dec 2017

Ash is covering the ground like a dusting

of snow.

The air makes your sinuses raw and your eyes water.

It burns your throat and lungs.

The sun is a reddish orange and the air is full of smoke cutting down the visibility to a smoky haze.

I am in Santa Barbara miles from the fire but it is moving closer to the places and cities between here and Ventura.

Is this our future?

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Ash is covering the ground like a dusting (Original Post) wasupaloopa Dec 2017 OP
Here in Socal have had a continuous headache since this started flamingdem Dec 2017 #1
Yes. democratisphere Dec 2017 #2
even if climate change deniers were not in charge lapfog_1 Dec 2017 #3
I am so sorry but yes, MuseRider Dec 2017 #4
If I read right we have lost 40 large animals so far wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #5
Ahhhh, that hurts every time. MuseRider Dec 2017 #6
try putting mentholatum in your nose...seriously. dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #7
Thanks I will try it and spread the advicr wasupaloopa Dec 2017 #8
Don't need a lot..you can adjust to whatever feels best... dixiegrrrrl Dec 2017 #10
I've been through several major hurricanes mcar Dec 2017 #9

flamingdem

(39,313 posts)
1. Here in Socal have had a continuous headache since this started
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:10 PM
Dec 2017

I think it's even worse where you are.

This may indeed be our future. Elsewhere it's massive hurricanes.

Meanwhile Al Franken squeezed someone and we lose a critical senate seat.

Another reason for a headache.

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
3. even if climate change deniers were not in charge
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:25 PM
Dec 2017

it is too late to stop the West from burning to the ground. More extreme wet years followed by more extreme drought are baked into the climate now.

The deniers are only hastening the end.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
4. I am so sorry but yes,
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 01:29 PM
Dec 2017

I think we have just this kind of thing to look forward to. I am so upset about what is happening to California. I am in Kansas. When I see this, your fire is consuming so much so quickly that if here my entire farm, barns and animals, crop and house would be gone in less than a minute. Stay safe. Tornados rarely worry me but fire terrifies me. Sending every good thought I can the way of California again. Not that that helps anything at all but it is all I have at the moment.

MuseRider

(34,105 posts)
6. Ahhhh, that hurts every time.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:21 PM
Dec 2017

I went back up to my barn after posting this to do some cleaning chores and there is a big fire to my NE. Thankfully there is little breeze today not coming my way and there is a highway between me and the fire that probably would contain this rather smallish fire. At least it looks pretty small but for some reason it has moved very quickly and is still putting out a lot of smoke.

As I said, be well and stay safe. I hope it all passes you by.

I wonder if The Gentle Barn has moved it's animals or if it is even possible to do that?

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
7. try putting mentholatum in your nose...seriously.
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 03:25 PM
Dec 2017

Like in vicks vapo-rub.
Instant cure for a sinus headache, but should make nose breathing a bit better, could act as a filter for the air.
I use it for a few days when they burn the cotton fields here. Just a little dab, repeated as needed, is effective.
My kid was near the fires in Wash. state earlier this summer, says it worked for him.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
10. Don't need a lot..you can adjust to whatever feels best...
Thu Dec 7, 2017, 07:02 PM
Dec 2017

You know how hot and dry the indoor air feels in winter, esp. with gas heat? I use it for that.

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