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Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:07 PM

Watching one of the Movie's Fellini made between the late forties and deep into the 60's...

especially the one's filmed in Italy, you can still see the devastation that the War had wrought on the people.

It's as if Fellini used that stark back drop, rubble and all, almost as if it was a character in the film. It serves as a great contrast between, especially those filmed in B&W, life and death. Everywhere there is evidence of tragedy and yet, life goes on.

The one movie, La Strada, features Anthony Quinn as a rough-neck traveling strong man who performs for tips and food. This is a disturbing movie on many levels but it also shows that life goes on, no matter what happens all around you. Of course there is a lot more to it than that, It's a Fellini movie. Suffice it to say it is hard to watch but you will come out the other end slightly wizened

I don't know really where I am going with this but I must say I am glad I waited to watch these films until I was able to gather enough life to understand fully what these films were all about.

One of my favorite persons in the whole world use to say "you don't have to be Fellini to figure that out" when people made a super obvious comment to describe something. It made laugh when I was in my 20's but now, halfway into my 50's, I just smile to myself as I enjoy all that life has to offer.

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Reply Watching one of the Movie's Fellini made between the late forties and deep into the 60's... (Original post)
WCGreen Jul 2012 OP
aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #1
WCGreen Jul 2012 #2
hifiguy Jul 2012 #25
Octafish Jul 2012 #3
aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #5
RagAss Jul 2012 #24
whatchamacallit Jul 2012 #4
Archae Jul 2012 #6
patrice Jul 2012 #7
WCGreen Jul 2012 #8
aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2012 #11
CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2012 #9
Gregorian Jul 2012 #10
TreasonousBastard Jul 2012 #12
CTyankee Jul 2012 #19
WCGreen Jul 2012 #21
madrchsod Jul 2012 #13
TheMastersNemesis Jul 2012 #14
WCGreen Jul 2012 #16
Brother Buzz Jul 2012 #15
BrendaBrick Jul 2012 #17
WCGreen Jul 2012 #20
BrendaBrick Jul 2012 #22
WCGreen Jul 2012 #26
ananda Jul 2012 #18
RagAss Jul 2012 #23
joeybee12 Jul 2012 #27

Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:14 PM

1. I liked La Strada

In the 1980s I worked for its producer Dino DeLaurentiis. Dino loved Anthony Quinn's performance and thought he looked and acted very Italian although he clearly was not.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #1)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:15 PM

2. I liked it a lot...

But I am lad I watched it at this stage in my life...

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:26 PM

25. That is a powerful and wrenching film.

 

A true masterpiece.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:18 PM

3. One has "to gather enough life to understand fully what these films were all about."

Fellini -- and life itself -- is like that. Just as we start to grok what's happening, we're entering the middle of our sixth decade!

I am the same way, WCGreen. I'm just starting to appreciate Akira Kurosawa, particularly "Dersu Uzala," now that I've hit 55 and it's 100 outside in Detroit this summer.

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Response to Octafish (Reply #3)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:22 PM

5. Ikiru - one of the greatest films ever made in my opinion

I saw it as a young man in Paris in 1968 while I was studying there and it affected me for the rest of my life. Very simple but powerful film.

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Response to aint_no_life_nowhere (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:19 PM

24. Cool...Kagemusha did the same to me.

What is an identity after all ?

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:21 PM

4. Watched it again a few weeks back

Like most Fellini flicks, lots to love and lots to scratch your head about...

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:23 PM

6. I watched a Fellini film once.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:36 PM

7. I really like La Strada. Have watched it 3 times. Would watch it again several times over.

It's what I think of as existential. A little tough to take for that reason, but I like the hard edge of this movie and the amazing sweet-sad-funny-noble character writing for Gelsomina, the female lead. Such a gloriously tatterdemalion ensemble!, without a touch of "hollywood".

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Response to patrice (Reply #7)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:42 PM

8. Wonderful actress...

such innocence and yet innate wisdom...

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #8)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:25 PM

11. Giullieta Masina - Fellini's wife

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 09:44 PM

9. I've never seen it...

It does sound as though it would be something I would enjoy.

Thanks for the tip...

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:12 PM

10. I think what I found so powerful about La Strada

Zampano finally realizes that he was the cause of three needless deaths. Finally, through the absolute innocence of Gelsomina, he was able to see the truth.

I just wish we could truly care for each other.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:14 PM

12. Fellini was a genius, but never forget...

DeSica, who gave us "Two Women" and "The Bicycle Thief" (aka Bicycle Thieves).

The horrific effects of the war itself, and the doubtful aftermath-- by people who made movies, not politics.

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Response to TreasonousBastard (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 07:14 PM

19. yes, two bicycles thieves was the Italian title...what a movie. all shot in rome on the streets with

the people...and all the destruction...

I remember going to Europe with my mother in 1956, 11 years after the war, and Europe was sad and drab. They still hadn't come back. But I remember St. Paul's Cathedral in London, The Louvre in Paris, and the Night Watch in Amsterdam! What treasures.

I do recall that Versailles in France was very sad and down at the heels. Not now, I hear. It has been restored to glory. It wasn't that way in 1956...

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:40 PM

21. My impression of Europe was dictated by a Hard Days Night and Georgie Girl...

the black and white and then when the Radio Free Europe Comercials in Black and White, I thought where did all the color go...



Well, my TV was black and white that's how I remember it...

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:30 PM

13. yes it`s a very good movie....

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:41 PM

14. Fellinesque - Everything About What Is Going On Today Fits That Term

 

When I was getting my BFA in Theater I took a film art criticism class. That class is where I was introduced to Frederico. By far two of my favorite movies of his were "Juliet Of The Spirits" and "Amarcord". The first movie I saw of his was "La Dolce Vita". He was one of the most profound directors of the 20th century.

Being raised Catholic, I could identify with him because of the way he mocked the Catholic Church and its teachings. He often criticized the Church for its many excesses. "Juliet Of The Spirits" is one of his most scathing. He slams the sterility of the Church in its ability to warp people's minds regarding sexuality. And he shows how the priests and nuns damage people and make them neurotic about themselves as human beings.

I was glad that he got an Academy Award before he died. And I often wonder how he would deal with today's version of Christianity and politics. I have not seen all his films, particularly the earlier ones.

As far as "La Strada" goes, it is a pretty difficult film to watch. The brutality of it from my point of view is metaphoric in relation to the brutality of the world. The last time I saw it was well over 30 years ago. As a masterpiece it still resonates today.

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Response to TheMastersNemesis (Reply #14)

Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:50 AM

16. Exactly, because there was so much war debre left...

Giulletta Masina had that blank face that reflected all that was around her back at the viewers...

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:46 PM

15. Check out his dream diary to get an idea what was going through Fellini's tortured mind

I swear, R Crumb and Fellini crossed paths many times in their dreams

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 07:04 PM

17. One of my favorite films by Fellini:

Nights of Cabiria.

Favorite scene: The finale:



...and I guess if this final sentiment were to be put to music...then my choice would have to be this:




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Response to BrendaBrick (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 01:24 PM

20. That was the very first Fellini movie I watched from beginning to end...

It had a profound affect on me.

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Response to WCGreen (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:06 PM

22. It's always stayed with me too.

Speaking of Italian films, have you ever watched the comedy: "Johnny Stecchino" with Roberto Benigni?



(still makes me laugh)

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Response to BrendaBrick (Reply #22)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:55 PM

26. I'll look for that one...

Thanks for the tip.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Tue Jul 24, 2012, 07:06 PM

18. Also look at Tarkovsky's Russia.

The toxic devastation is always there,
along with a helluvalotta water.

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:15 PM

23. Every traffic jam I get into....I think of the famous opening to "8 1/2."

Viva Fellini !

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Response to WCGreen (Original post)

Thu Jul 26, 2012, 04:55 PM

27. I LOVE Fellini...knr

 

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