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Napalm found in Colorado shooters's apartment. CNN (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2012 OP
There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this boy derby378 Jul 2012 #1
It was a woman in her twenties who complained about the stereo noise after midnight that morning GarroHorus Jul 2012 #4
I read about her and am very glad she got creeped out. uppityperson Jul 2012 #21
I decided to not let a couple of bullies with some power push me out GarroHorus Jul 2012 #23
It would have gone off before he was at the theatre SoCalDem Jul 2012 #29
WRONG GarroHorus Jul 2012 #31
The FBI person today said that HE thought the music SoCalDem Jul 2012 #39
I'm betting they find lots of links to that Norwegian killer malaise Jul 2012 #42
I have a hard time believing this. madaboutharry Jul 2012 #2
Look at what a student has to study when studying neurosciences GarroHorus Jul 2012 #5
Why? Is it that difficult to obtain or make? yardwork Jul 2012 #7
I made a small amount in my college chemistry lab GarroHorus Jul 2012 #9
He must have made it himself then. madaboutharry Jul 2012 #13
I don't believe you. morningfog Jul 2012 #25
it is very easy to make rateyes Jul 2012 #26
I don't believe that poster. Not that it isn't easy to make. morningfog Jul 2012 #30
Yes it is. incendiary gel is incredibly easy to make. HubertHeaver Jul 2012 #34
In "Steal This Book" Abbie Hoffman told us how to make it a long time ago!!! n/t winstars Jul 2012 #40
The retraction will be amusing cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #3
Napalm is gelled gasoline GarroHorus Jul 2012 #6
If I'm not mistaken... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #8
That's a field-expedient napalm jmowreader Jul 2012 #22
yep rateyes Jul 2012 #27
I believe the official military stuff also includes benzene. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #32
And why Hollywood uses the fast burning crap. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #37
The styrofoam is dissolved into benzene in the army stuff, yes jmowreader Jul 2012 #41
We had accidental napalm once nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #36
wow, so what other goodies did he have in his room quinnox Jul 2012 #10
What was mentioned in a story... HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #24
Good to see that the right to bear flammable agents is intact BeyondGeography Jul 2012 #11
After banning everything that might be used to kill people, HooptieWagon Jul 2012 #14
all three of those can be used to kill people, too. rateyes Jul 2012 #19
We still have ready access to gasoline and other fuels. backscatter712 Jul 2012 #38
Gasoline and detergent mixed together MrScorpio Jul 2012 #12
It's his 2nd Amendment right! Kingofalldems Jul 2012 #15
Where can you buy napalm? riverbendviewgal Jul 2012 #16
He most likelly made it himself SickOfTheOnePct Jul 2012 #17
napalm=gasoline frankroberts Jul 2012 #18
Gasoline with VERY SPECIAL additives Canuckistanian Jul 2012 #45
Let's see here. The second amendment has been repealed. Very bad things happen to you....... wandy Jul 2012 #20
Here it is being disposed of >> El Supremo Jul 2012 #28
So? Clearly it's an 'arm' for self defense. onehandle Jul 2012 #33
Well low grade is easy to make nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #35
I have been seriously worried that this guy has more tricks up his sleeve Bjorn Against Jul 2012 #43
Don't give him so much credit malaise Jul 2012 #44

derby378

(30,252 posts)
1. There is something SERIOUSLY wrong with this boy
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:32 PM
Jul 2012

If you're stockpiling napalm, there better be a bona fide zombie apocalypse or I'm going to have doubts about you.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
4. It was a woman in her twenties who complained about the stereo noise after midnight that morning
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:35 PM
Jul 2012

I saw her interviewed.

She approached the apartment and discovered the door unlocked. She almost entered but decided not to.

Had she entered, that building would have gone off moments after Holmes told the police he booby trapped his apartment.

uppityperson

(115,677 posts)
21. I read about her and am very glad she got creeped out.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:05 PM
Jul 2012

And I am glad to see you are sticking around. It's been a wild couple days, lots of emotions running all over.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
29. It would have gone off before he was at the theatre
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:45 PM
Jul 2012

He had left the building , and probably expected someone to call the cops, who would then open the door..kaboom... and all the other police would swarm there, giving him more time at the movie..

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
31. WRONG
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:53 PM
Jul 2012

He put the stereo on a timer. It started at PRECISELY midnight. It ended at PRECISELY 1 AM.

Holmes was in custody at the theater before 1 AM.

The woman went to knock on the door and found it unlocked, decided not to open the door, went back to her apartment, called the police back, was informed they were in emergency status and it would be some time before somebody would be sent to the apartment.

The music stopped a few minutes later.

SoCalDem

(103,856 posts)
39. The FBI person today said that HE thought the music
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 02:08 AM
Jul 2012

was a diversion to draw police to the apartment.. Anytime within the 12-1 am time-frame, cops/ someone could have turned that knob, and of it had exploded, cops would surely have gone there..

the fact that no one did, is probably why he told them..

who knows anyway? only him.. and I won't waste much energy trying to figure him out.. you have your schematic, the FBI has another.. I'm done with the whole thing.. sad all-round..

random anonymous people online will have no impact on the outcome..

malaise

(268,913 posts)
42. I'm betting they find lots of links to that Norwegian killer
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:18 PM
Jul 2012

on his computer. Diversion was also his tactic.

yardwork

(61,588 posts)
7. Why? Is it that difficult to obtain or make?
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

Could a person who knows a good bit about chemistry make it? Could somebody obtain it on the black market?

Edit - I just googled "how to make napalm" and got more than 7 million hits.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
9. I made a small amount in my college chemistry lab
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jul 2012

Very simple to make. My lab TA showed a couple of us after a class ended. Easy enough to find the proper procedures in any well stocked chemistry library.

HubertHeaver

(2,522 posts)
34. Yes it is. incendiary gel is incredibly easy to make.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:17 AM
Jul 2012

Nothing complex about it. Very dangerous, but simple.

 

GarroHorus

(1,055 posts)
6. Napalm is gelled gasoline
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

speaking strictly from the synthesis process, it's something any third year undergraduate who takes chemistry courses in support a major life sciences degree, like say neurosciences, should be able to synthesize with ease.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. If I'm not mistaken...
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:38 PM
Jul 2012

napalm is pretty easy to make. Gasoline and soap flakes. Delete if inappropriate.

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
22. That's a field-expedient napalm
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:06 PM
Jul 2012

Official Napalm B is gasoline and polystyrene--usually busted-up pieces of styrofoam dissolved into the gasoline.

But you're exactly right: napalm is pretty easy to make.

backscatter712

(26,355 posts)
32. I believe the official military stuff also includes benzene.
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jul 2012

But yes, for the most part, it's gasoline and polystyrene - not that hard to make. The polystyrene has the effect of turning the gasoline mixture into jelly, so that it sticks to what it burns.

Much of the trouble the military went to when formulating napalm was to actually slow the burning down as well as have the right jelly consistency - if it burns too fast, you get a nice fireball, but all the heat and fire goes into the air instead of roasting people alive. The military wanted something that burned hot, but for a longer time, and that could be kept in a nice stream when it was squirted out of flamethrowers - all the better to horrifically burn the enemy!

jmowreader

(50,553 posts)
41. The styrofoam is dissolved into benzene in the army stuff, yes
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:15 PM
Jul 2012

I've never seen the actual Napalm B product (read instructions for it, tho), but it's a concentrate for jellied gasoline: you get a barrel of Napalm B, which comes without gasoline in it, add the gas and do the mission with it. If you wanted to make it at home you'd just get a gallon of gas, some old beer coolers or something, a wooden spoon, and a 5-gallon bucket to mix it in.

Army story follows: I was on the Destruction Team at one of my old units. If we were in danger of being overrun, the Destruction Team (each shift had one) was supposed to get rid of all the secret materials and equipment so it wouldn't fall into the hands of the enemy. We had a 40-foot shipping container full of pyro to use for this, but I put in a formal request for five flamethrowers. The idea was, we could incinerate everything on the floor with a flamethrower faster than we could set up all the pyro. The colonel told me, "you just want to play with them, right?" No, not "play" with them sir, but we WOULD have to perform twice-yearly flamethrower qualification for all the crews just to make sure we knew exactly how to use them if the time came. It didn't work, though. Fortunately, we never got overrun.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
10. wow, so what other goodies did he have in his room
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:39 PM
Jul 2012

some Black Plague in a test tube, VX nerve gas, some uranium? This guy obviously had too many screws loose to count.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
24. What was mentioned in a story...
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:23 PM
Jul 2012

Was accellerants (probably the napalm), common household chemicals that explode when mixed, and aerial explosives (which could be fireworks or flares). Lots of tripwires and triggers all over the place. Guy is crazy, but not dumb.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
14. After banning everything that might be used to kill people,
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:50 PM
Jul 2012

we're pretty much left with dirt, water, and grass.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
16. Where can you buy napalm?
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:54 PM
Jul 2012

It is easily made, but being in the US, it is illegal for you to buy.

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Where_can_you_buy_napalm

Napalm - Still Used As A Weapon
Modern version of the incendiary weapon is still in use with the U.S. military.

http://usmilitary.about.com/od/armyweapons/a/napalm.htm

SickOfTheOnePct

(7,290 posts)
17. He most likelly made it himself
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:56 PM
Jul 2012

But even if he didn't, but illegality doesn't stop people from getting what they want. Never has and never will.

frankroberts

(35 posts)
18. napalm=gasoline
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 10:58 PM
Jul 2012

Napalm is no more or no less explosive that the gasoline it is made of. Napalm is jelled so that it sticks on whatever it lands on.

Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
45. Gasoline with VERY SPECIAL additives
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:48 PM
Jul 2012

Additives that are NOT commonly available and are STILL prohibited by law.

wandy

(3,539 posts)
20. Let's see here. The second amendment has been repealed. Very bad things happen to you.......
Sat Jul 21, 2012, 11:01 PM
Jul 2012

if you are caught with a gun. But theirs a good movie at the Orient and I want to do a little crazy.
What to do. What to do.
Napalm, ya that's it Napalm, you can make it you're self. Almost everyone knows how.

I'll bend down I'll turn around I'll give you a wink.
Gonna make me up some napalm right here in the sink.
It smells like turpentine and looks like Indian ink.
I held my nose I closed my eyes I burned down two whole city blocks.


Napalm is not that hard to make. A little dangerous but not rocket science.
Guns were not the only problem here.
If he couldn't find a gun he would have found something else.
Oh, I guess he did.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
33. So? Clearly it's an 'arm' for self defense.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:14 AM
Jul 2012

You libruls want to take away our conservative Supreme Court given 'rights.'

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
35. Well low grade is easy to make
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jul 2012

No, does not shock me...anarchist cookbook somewhere in there, and I mean the original version.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
43. I have been seriously worried that this guy has more tricks up his sleeve
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 09:30 PM
Jul 2012

With all his booby traps I would not be surprised if he set something up for later, it is something that generally only happens in the movies but with this guy I actually see a possibility that he planned for more stuff to happen after his arrest. He would likely need an accomplice to trigger something from prison, but I would not be surprised if he has someone helping him. If this guy is trying to be the Joker I would worry that he planned ahead just like the Joker did in the last movie.

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