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Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:15 PM

Look what I just found in a comment on Senator Gillibrand's FB page:

Someone posted this quote from Amy Siskind in a comment on Gillibrand's FB page:

"Wouldn’t it be powerful if tomorrow the 33 US Senators who called on Al Franken to resign called a press conference and called for Senate hearings on allegations of sexual assault by Donald Trump."

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=887161011463959&set=p.887161011463959&type=3&theater
Posted as a graphic on her FB page, but I can't get the graphic to post.

She is really taking the heat for leading the charge on Franken. One poster saying that now it's coming out that Roger Stone was behind the attack, and telling her to "get busy and get Franken back in the senate."

She has a video on ending forced arbitration at the top of her page , and the comments under that are nearly all against her action with Franken.

https://www.facebook.com/SenKirstenGillibrand/?hc_ref=ARRFp5yQzwI5n4v1Q4yI5hQqaU-4QdO4gq8EKTVT9bhQn34sXaOHYMDQpFyIkyMqjXo&fref=nf

Edited to add:
I hope a lot of people email/tweet/post this article to the 33 senators, or at least their own, if they are among the 33. I plan to email it to mine. It sums up the whole thing beautifully and explains why this action was so damaging, both in general and to Dems specifically:
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/by-deserting-franken-democrats-show-they-dont-understand_us_5a2aa209e4b022ec613b8146

Courtesy of spooky3 in this thread:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029953599

And tell them to walk it back!
And that Tweeden and Don Jr. are long time twitter buddies.

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Reply Look what I just found in a comment on Senator Gillibrand's FB page: (Original post)
Amaryllis Dec 2017 OP
rainin Dec 2017 #1
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #3
mythology Dec 2017 #44
Egnever Dec 2017 #58
helmedon1974 Dec 2017 #69
Eyeball_Kid Dec 2017 #81
treestar Dec 2017 #90
SergeStorms Dec 2017 #73
Garrett78 Dec 2017 #76
rainin Dec 2017 #94
Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #92
Maraya1969 Dec 2017 #91
suegeo Dec 2017 #2
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #5
Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #35
Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #40
PatrickforO Dec 2017 #11
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #16
tavalon Dec 2017 #55
RVN VET71 Dec 2017 #28
InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #34
HelenWheels Dec 2017 #83
brooklynite Dec 2017 #101
mchill Dec 2017 #49
tavalon Dec 2017 #54
PatrickforO Dec 2017 #70
flamingdem Dec 2017 #60
mchill Dec 2017 #46
questionseverything Dec 2017 #100
OliverQ Dec 2017 #4
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #8
PatrickforO Dec 2017 #6
rzemanfl Dec 2017 #9
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jrthin Dec 2017 #29
Motownman78 Dec 2017 #75
Dream Girl Dec 2017 #77
Demsrule86 Dec 2017 #93
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #98
greeny2323 Dec 2017 #7
InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #31
mchill Dec 2017 #50
R B Garr Dec 2017 #10
riverwalker Dec 2017 #12
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LisaL Dec 2017 #17
flamingdem Dec 2017 #72
tomp Dec 2017 #88
mchill Dec 2017 #51
Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #66
marieo1 Dec 2017 #95
Bibluca Dec 2017 #97
questionseverything Dec 2017 #99
Puzzler Dec 2017 #14
Pobeka Dec 2017 #15
better Dec 2017 #41
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tavalon Dec 2017 #56
L. Coyote Dec 2017 #47
Snarkoleptic Dec 2017 #18
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #21
Snarkoleptic Dec 2017 #62
Snarkoleptic Dec 2017 #19
Kajun Gal Dec 2017 #20
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InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2017 #32
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LisaL Dec 2017 #24
TheCowsCameHome Dec 2017 #33
Pobeka Dec 2017 #39
KelleyKramer Dec 2017 #86
Achilleaze Dec 2017 #25
orleans Dec 2017 #27
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #36
dflprincess Dec 2017 #38
orleans Dec 2017 #45
Amaryllis Dec 2017 #59
Lotusflower70 Dec 2017 #67
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PatSeg Dec 2017 #30
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tecelote Dec 2017 #74
YOHABLO Dec 2017 #79
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DFW Dec 2017 #85
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SHRED Dec 2017 #52
flamingdem Dec 2017 #71
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spooky3 Dec 2017 #63
ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #65
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George Eliot Dec 2017 #78
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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:17 PM

1. Good! I hope all 33 are wondering if they did the right thing. n/t

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Response to rainin (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:18 PM

3. If they aren't now, they will be tomorrow when they start answering phones and checking their

FB pages.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #3)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:01 PM

44. Doubtful. They already did the right thing

 

How anybody can just dismiss 8 different women, from both sides of the aisle, some of whom told others at the time, is beyond me. The cult of personality on this is amazing.

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Response to mythology (Reply #44)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:43 PM

58. Which one seems credible to you?

 

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Response to mythology (Reply #44)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:01 AM

69. No they didn't, they did the political thing.

 

Not a single accusation is credible, mainly because only two are not anonymous. As stated, Tweeden is an obvious hit job planned by the GOP. She's good friends with Don Jr., Hannity and connected to Roger Stone. Stone gave advanced warning to outlets about a story about to break on Frankenstein before actually did. Kinda like how Giuliani was talking about things to come before investigations were "renewed" on the Clinton investigation.
The next accuser is claiming Frankenstein grabbed a handful of flesh and squeezed during the grab and go photo photo-ops. Placing an arm around her back for a.photo, quickly, on might grab a chunk of flesh, especially if she is extra flesh to grab. Even then there's nothing wrong there. Just uptight women feeling squirrelly because a man touched you st all.
Another case, a woman is being congratulated at work, boss come in with high fives, except with younthehigh 5 misses and a boob is grazed..........now this man will be charged with sexual harrasmemt or even assault.....just because he grazed a boob or bumped a button even or twice




Another

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Response to helmedon1974 (Reply #69)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:21 AM

81. Isn't it amazing that only a small handful of people can have so much sway over

the body politic?

If Stone was involved, anyone should automatically assume that something dishonest is going on. Stone's great talent over the DECADES is to create chaos and scandal that ultimately favors Republicans. He's an old pro, and my guess is that he's been handsomely rewarded and he continues to be rewarded.

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Response to helmedon1974 (Reply #69)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:39 AM

90. Yeah, I don't think that the average voter

let alone the Republicans is going to look at the Franken allegations in any other way than whoah ! I better not joke around or be physically near any woman.

The allegations are so stupid and they barely constitute harassment. They've cheapened it and made it a joke. Now no one will focus on real cases.

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Response to mythology (Reply #44)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:27 AM

73. So you don't believe in the basic tenets of law......

whereby the accused has the right to face his/her accusers, and be presented with all evidence of the "crimes" he/she supposedly committed? Heresay is totally admissible in your opinion, and no solid evidence need be presented?

Maybe Al is a snake in the grass, but he has the basic right to face his accusers. Period. No one should ever be convicted by the court of public opinion.

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Response to mythology (Reply #44)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:57 AM

76. Like Tina Dupuy?

Who, 6 months after the alleged incident took place, tweeted, “I met Franken in DC in Jan. I thanked him for legitimizing comedians everywhere. Way to go, Senator!” Funny, too, how that tweet was just deleted in the last couple of days.

It's one thing to not want to come forward. It's a whole other thing to go out of your way to praise the person.

There's a lot about the Franken mess that stinks.

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Response to Garrett78 (Reply #76)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 09:59 AM

94. I wonder how the member

mythology above squares Tina's story. I heard her interview after he resigned. Her story is RIDICULOUS!

Over the years, I've met quite a few hugging families. I don't come from a very affectionate family so hugging seems too intimate for me. It is like we're in an alternate universe when we think a squeeze around the waist, in a public place, is even sexual, much less a sexual assault or harassment.

How was she assaulted? How was she harassed?

I have body image insecurities. If I'm called on to stand up in front of a room and speak, I'm uncomfortable. Imagine a world where my discomfort can lead to your dismissal from your job.

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Response to mythology (Reply #44)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:52 AM

92. six were anonymous...I discount such bullshit...and Tweeden is a Hannity buddy and Stone knew in

advance too. Sorry, this was a colossal mistake.

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Response to rainin (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:45 AM

91. I just realized something. Franken was bullied out of the Senate. A bunch of people got together

and forced him to do something he didn't want to do.

Isn't that bullying?

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:17 PM

2. Thanks for posting this.

I fucking hate Facebook, so I am not a member. I want to know what the backlash against this woman is. Esp. as I am a female Franken voter in Minnesota. Moar pleeezzzz?

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Response to suegeo (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:19 PM

5. Just go to the link and start reading. I only checked it out because I wanted to see what

people were saying.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:13 PM

35. Folks who aren't joined up to Facebook (like me) can't see any messages at the link.

We just see a title page and can't get any further.

It's helpful to have some of it copied and pasted, though. Twitter's been alight too whenever I've looked at Gillibrand's account.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #5)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:37 PM

40. OK, scratch my other reply to you.

I did manage to get into your second link and read quite a few eyesful of replies. Woah.

Facebook's often a bit hit or miss in what non-members can see. Thanks for the OP anyway.

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Response to suegeo (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:37 PM

11. I've called or written most of these Senators and made my extreme displeasure known.

From what I'm hearing on the ground, Gillibrand and Harris are both now facing major blowback. Even some #me too women have gone on record saying this isn't helping their movement.

Not only that but dozens of women have written in support of Franken, including a group from SNL and a group of women staffers in his Senate office.

These allegations are so spurious (Franken accidentally touched the bare flesh of a woman's hip while in a group photo with her, she mentioned that because she'd gained weight, was self-conscious about that, and her shirt had ridden up a bit) that this whole thing has offended many in the base.

First of all, zero tolerance policies have a history of throwing common sense and any kind of discretion to the wind. Getting rid of Franken for the sake of these allegations is like an idiotic elementary school principle who expels a first-grade girl for bringing a plastic knife to spread peanut butter on a piece of bread. It's just stupid.

Next, when I see the knee-jerk reaction here, it makes me think of the old red scares and McCarthyism. Black lists. Congressional witch hunts. Only instead of communists, now the 'perps' are pretty much all men over 55.

Problem is, there are a lot of pretty good people over 55, and if we don't let them legitimately redeem themselves from dumb acts that happened way back when, justice will not be served. The criteria that should be applied is 1) how long ago did it happen?, 2) how serious was it? and 3) is the behavior stopped, or has it happened in the last five years?

Franken probably did a couple of creepy things way back when, but based on evidence presented and an objective observation of his behavior in the Senate, to label him a sexual predator, and force him to resign is absurd. To my mind this was a despicable act that had much more to do with Gillibrand's political ambition (she kneecapped Franken to get him out of the way for her 2020 presidential bid because she perceived him as a potential opponent), and nothing to do with any values or vision she might or might not have.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:58 PM

16. McCarthyism is a great analogy. At the risk of incurring wrath, I could see when things

started to snowball with MeToo that the potential was there for it to be a double-edged sword. I frankly think the false equivalence is harming rather than helping the cause of women being taken seriously.

Did you see this thread?
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029953599
and read the linked article:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/by-deserting-franken-democrats-show-they-dont-understand_us_5a2aa209e4b022ec613b8146
Sums it up beautifully.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #16)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:39 PM

55. False equivalency

Exactly!

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:53 PM

28. It's more than offensive

Bill Maher characterized the Dems perfectly as a party with weak knees who cave in to imagined harm and eat their own people more readily than attacking Republicans.

The piling on of Senators against Franken was nothing short of disgusting. I held back a couple of days waiting to see if they knew something that the media had not yet reported. But it became apparent that didn't known anymore about Franken's situation than the media reported! And the media reported nothing -- repeat, nothing -- that reaches the level of resignation or censure or even a wrist slapping.

So I'm through with the Democratic Party. Let me explain that: I will vote for anyone, or anything, that can unseat a Republican -- or prevent another Republican from gaining office. I despise the GOP and it's army of hypocrites and greedy psychopaths. So I will be voting for Democratic candidates. In other words, when Elizabeth Warren wins the 2020 Democratic nomination, I'll vote for her -- but I won't give her campaign a dime. And if/when the DNC calls my house asking for money, I will attempt a calm explanation of why I do not want to be bothered by them again.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #28)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:07 PM

34. I understand your point of view... it just saddens me to hear it,

as it was all SO unnecessary. I keep hoping something really good will come out of this... just don't see it right now.

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Response to RVN VET71 (Reply #28)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:03 AM

83. The DCCC called me two days ago

After I unloaded my anger about the Dems treatment of Franken I stopped and asked the caller what he thought about the issue. He said this was the first time he had made calls for donations and he also felt the Dems had betrayed Al. I apologised for going off on him and we had a nice discussion. I did not give a donation.

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Response to HelenWheels (Reply #83)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:34 PM

101. DCCC has nothing to do with Franken or the Senate candidates.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:20 PM

49. Totally agree with your post plus

I like your first sentence.

I've been actively posting on Kamala Harris and Gillibrand's page. For the thousands of comments in support of Al Franken, I've seen maybe two in support of the Senator's positions.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:38 PM

54. I'm one of the #metoo contributors

And I'm furious seeing the movement devolve into a patriarchal and political weapon.

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Response to tavalon (Reply #54)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:02 AM

70. Yes, I'm sorry this happened too. The #metoo movement is much needed.

But, like black lives matter, movements like this get exploited. But your message is pure. The reality of decades of microagression against women will prove much more powerful than this one egregious instance of exploitation. I have three daughters and two grand daughters, and I hate the idea they should have to face what so many women have.

Maybe I'm a part of it, because I do enjoy unearned white and unearned male privilege. I hope not, because I'd rather be part of the solution.

The problem is, this railroading of Franken just is not part of any solution I can think of. Now, if the investigation shows he has done something horrible, then fine, force him to resign. I just don't think that will happen - he's too good a human being.

Anyway, best to you. I'm happy women are standing up. Don't stop - for the sake, especially of my grand daughters, don't stop.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #11)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:47 PM

60. Well said!

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Response to suegeo (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:09 PM

46. 99.9% percent of the comments on this topic to Gillibrand are

Why the F did you do this to Al Franken?

Sherrod Brown's wife says people who post are usually mad about a decision. The supporters don't post much. Ok, but 99.9% is pretty skewed toward not liking this move.

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Response to suegeo (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:30 PM

100. here are some

Ike Cantos We need to have not only smart people in the Senate but also wise people. You are neither!
5 · 8 hrs
Remove
Pennee Atkinson
Pennee Atkinson You BULLIED Al Franken out of the senate!
11 · 7 hrs
Remove
Bob Reaves
Bob Reaves I agree with you on most issues and have supported your efforts since you were elected. However, I strongly feel the approach taken by you and the others towards Franken was wrong on so many levels. Due process, which he himself requested and welcome...See More
7 · 7 hrs
Remove
Steven Kreiss
Steven Kreiss What about Trump and mo ore?
3 · 7 hrs
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Pamela Hollar
Pamela Hollar You have Presidential ambitions so you decided to knock one of your potential opponents out of the race early, namely Senator Al Franken? How's THAT working out for you so far. Not getting my vote!

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:18 PM

4. I doubt she even sees these comments on Facebook, so she probably doesn't care

 

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #4)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:27 PM

8. I'm sure she has staff who monitor FB. It gives her the pulse of her constituents.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:19 PM

6. Major blowback. I have called and written many of these

'courageous' Senators. I think she just ruined her presidential bid. It is too bad she got carried away by personal ambition and chose this despicable way to rid herself of a potential opponent.

Not only that, but this brazen attempt at political pandering isn't going to help women much at all, as several women in Al Franken's Senate office have said. Franken is NOT part of the 'me too' problem. He is a good guy who did some ill-advised things 20 years ago.

And, if I have anything whatever to do with it, he will not be crucified on a cross of Gillibrand's political ambition.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:27 PM

9. He will not be crucified on a cross of Gillibrand's political ambition.

Outstanding. Deserves its own thread and a graphic. Well said!

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #9)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:34 PM

26. He kind of already has been. Now we're waiting for the resurrection...

 

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #6)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:54 PM

29. "I think that brazen attempt at political

pandering" states really well why many of us are not happy with her. Many of us despise that kind of cravenness she showed. It's ugly.

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Response to PatrickforO (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:54 AM

75. He was kicked out so that Dems

 

did not look hypocritical for attacking Roy Moore. I do not think Gillibrand;s political aspirations were the main reason for this.

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Response to Motownman78 (Reply #75)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:01 AM

77. She fueled the fire to be sure

 

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Response to Motownman78 (Reply #75)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:54 AM

93. I don't care. She started it.

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Response to Motownman78 (Reply #75)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:05 PM

98. I don't know her motivation, but it was terrible political strategy with many seriously negative

repercussions. Same goes for all 33, including my two senators, with whom I very rarely disagree. There was no need to act with such speed and lack of consideration of the consequences.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:21 PM

7. She needs to hear it from us

 

What she did was horrible. She should be calling on Trump to resign every day. Why the hell isn't she?

And she should let us know if she wants due process removed from the Constitution. I think she does.

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Response to greeny2323 (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:59 PM

31. Even if she does so now, it would look so reactionary as to lose its meaning.

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Response to greeny2323 (Reply #7)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:26 PM

50. She should be asking Al Franken to forgive her

Then she can go after Trump.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:30 PM

10. She needs to remedy this stat! What a foolish move

to play right into the GOP games of false equivalencies. Who does she think she is trying to stuff a Senator elected by the citizens of his state? This is one of the stupidest things I have ever seen in politics. Absolutely outrageous.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:46 PM

12. Joan Walsh on Twitter

Is scolding everyone for being upset with Gillibrand. Pissed me off.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:50 PM

13. She doesnt believe we are real Democrats

ReTweeting that “anger at Gillibrand coordinated by GOP” and makes me furious how out of touch she is. They don’t realize how we feel about What they did.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #13)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:59 PM

17. I don't believe for a second it is coordinated by GOP.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:06 AM

72. Wtf? That pisses me off, Joan Walsh is that out of touch?

Someone please inform her about the percentage against the Franken railroading.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #13)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:55 AM

88. Fake news from Joan Walsh. nt

 

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #12)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:27 PM

51. I just scolded her back

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:41 AM

66. I gave it right back

I am angry. Gillibrand was wrong. And it fucking pissed me off more when Walsh said President Gillibrand. No just no. For me, it's not simply here's a woman, support her. Gillibrand went after Franken because of her 2020 aspirations. And who knows if he was going to run. But I'd vote Franken before Gillibrand in a heartbeat. You attack your own without the process playing out, you deserve the backlash.

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Response to Lotusflower70 (Reply #66)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:16 AM

95. Righton

I have read Gillibrand has aspirations to be president. The last time I watched Al Franken take on the GOP I thought to myself, He would make a good president. Well, I think Gillibrand had ulterior motives for dissing Al Franken!!

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:42 AM

97. Joan Walsh is part of the problem

 

She's an old school leftie who just wants to play nice, and protect the people in charge. It's people like her who have helped get us into this mess by encouraging compliance with the party line.

No more of that.

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Response to riverwalker (Reply #12)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:48 PM

99. joan walsh is working early to make sure we lose in 2020

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:50 PM

14. Agree 100% (K&R)



-Puzzler

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 08:53 PM

15. Those 33 senators need to call on Trump to *resign*, not call for hearings on Trump's sexual assualt

The only way to redeem themselves at all is use the same standards for Trump. Choosing to be judge and jury for Franken and not for Trump has made them look weak and susceptible to the manipulations of the GOP, not the holders of high moral ground.

It will obviously get them nowhere to demand Trump's resignation, but they should be on the record for it, same as they got on that record for Franken's resignation.

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Response to Pobeka (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:38 PM

41. Correction...

It has not made them look weak, it has highlighted that they are weak.

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Response to better (Reply #41)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:50 PM

42. +1 n/t

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Response to better (Reply #41)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:41 PM

56. Exactly

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Response to Pobeka (Reply #15)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:12 PM

47. +100000

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:00 PM

18. Here's the image - save and share on social media.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #18)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:08 PM

21. Thank you! How did you get it to post? I copied image location and usually can post

when I do that, but couldn't with this.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #21)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:56 PM

62. It's not really straightforward and will require an account at imgur.com.

Last edited Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:54 AM - Edit history (1)

Right click on the image you want to grab.
Save it to your desktop.
Go to your imgur.com account and import the pic you've saved.
After the import, right click on the image and select 'copy image location'.

In your DU post, click control 'v' , which will paste the imgur url into your post.


Advanced skills--
If the image is too large or needs to be cropped, upload it to this site and play with the settings to get it right.
http://resizeimage.net/

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:03 PM

19. And here's a smaller one for the twitter trolls among us...

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:06 PM

20. LeannTweedan

 

Al was ready to go to ethics committee. Tweedan wasn't. Wonder why. Both would be put under oath and more than likely Tweedan would be proven a liar. They found twitter feeds between her and Donnie Jr. regarding this setup. It was set up by Donnie Jr. and Tweedan.

Al should not resign. Bring HER before the ethics committee, put her under oath and expose her for who she truly is! Anyone seen her Facebook page?

I am a woman. I have been through this all my life. And I can smell a fake setup. If this crap regarding Franken were real I'd back Gillibrand. But I fear women are going to take this too far. If it's REAL harassment then yeah, but if it's small petty nothings, women like Gillibrand are doing women a disservice!

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:16 PM

22. Some think if we play nice with Trump ...

... he'll play nice with them.

Not going to happen.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #22)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:02 PM

32. Who thinks that?!?! No one I know here.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #32)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:17 PM

37. My thoughts and comments are not confined to D.U.

I live in a much broader world,
in reality and online.

It's a big world out there.


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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:20 PM

23. "Senate hearings on allegations of sexual assault by Donald Trump." He should resign!

Did the Senate have hearings on Franken? Call for Trump's resignation.





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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:21 PM

24. No, most of democrats decided Franken didn't deserve a hearing.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #24)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:02 PM

33. Yep. To hell with a trial, we already brought a rope.

n/t

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #23)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:32 PM

39. Couldn't agree more. See my post upthread for my reasoning. n/t

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Response to L. Coyote (Reply #23)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:12 AM

86. That is spot on! That needs to be an OP


Couldn't agree more, please put that up as an OP!

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:24 PM

25. K and R

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:35 PM

27. thanks for posting this

those comments on gillibrand's fb are absolutely scathing!
good.
she deserves every one of them imo

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Response to orleans (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:14 PM

36. Made me feel better that she is hearing from constituents and they are not holding back!

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Response to orleans (Reply #27)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:26 PM

38. As a Minnesotan I find it so gratifying to see so many others

from other states just as upset with this as we are.

Thank you!!!

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:01 PM

45. i know you guys put him there in the senate

but we all needed him.
it certainly wasn't just mn who appreciated him
and i'm still so mad about what those other senators (including both of mine!) did to him, and to the party, and to all of us.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #38)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:45 PM

59. Anyone who was paying attention knew what an effective senator and progressive

champion he is, and what a loss this would be. Watching him question people in judiciary committee hearings...he is critical in the Russia probe, among so many other things. And he is just a good human being, beyond the politics, which actually is probably why he is such a good senator. You Minnesotans are far from alone in this! I am hoping that if we all keep on our senators to walk this back, and keep encouraging Franken to hang in there, just maybe we can turn this around.

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #38)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:45 AM

67. Same here

Fellow Minnesotan. Pissed that my Senator got screwed over. Amazed at all the support he is getting across the country.

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Response to Lotusflower70 (Reply #67)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:15 PM

102. He is getting the support because he deserves it and he is an exceptional senator and teh

entire country badly needs him, not just MN.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #102)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 10:27 PM

104. Agreed

This whole thing was poorly handled. He has done great work.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 09:55 PM

30. Wow

Looks like this has really backfired on her and she probably thought it was a good move if she decides to run for president.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 10:56 PM

43. Well, I went there and left some scathing comments. Then I went back, and found them all gone.

I printed out this comment:

Hey Kristin, what happened to all the comments about Al Franken? You want to pretend the fury and anger you've awakened for stabbing our most courageous Senator in the back doesn't exist? You're just making the tsunami of Democratic voices against you even more outraged. Put them back up; read every one of them. Know this is why your political career is going into a tailspin that it will never recover from.

When I tried to post it, I got this:



Kristin, or her staff, are trying to hide the truth. I've apparently had my posting privileges revoked. Keep the pressure up on her, and the rest of the Neville Chamberlain Democrats.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:37 PM

53. That is sick

 

She has lost all respect.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:54 PM

61. THere is always email, although no one else sees that. Still, it lets her know how people feel.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:02 AM

64. Hiding the truth. Against Democrats/progressives...

How Trump-esque.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 02:42 AM

74. "Kristin, or her staff, are trying to hide the truth."

You should post this as it's own OP so everyone knows what they are doing.

Silencing our voice seems more like a Republican tactic.

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:37 AM

79. Gillibrand killed her career.

 

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 04:18 AM

80. Huh? I was just reading excellent scathing comments to her on FB

Didn’t see anything that looked like comments were deleted. I must be missing something?

Anyway, I’m disgusted with her and Schumer—my two Senators whom I gladly voted for—and the rest for believing Tweeden unquestioningly, without considering her suspicious ties and her own behavior. I’m disgusted that they took extreme actions based on anonymous accusations. Im disgusted they apparently had no idea of Tweeden’s corrupt repuke buddies. I’m disgusted that they gave the repukes the gift they dreamed of—lynching Al Franken.

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Response to BlancheSplanchnik (Reply #80)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:39 AM

87. +1000

So am I!

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Response to NBachers (Reply #43)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:26 AM

85. Here's what I left on her site:

The time is long past when it has become obvious that the drive to oust Al Franken from the Senate was premature, and very conceivably manipulated to silence one of our most eloquent voices. Franken has not yet submitted his resignation. There is time to save the honor and integrity of those Democrats who rushed to gang up on Al Franken. If you wish to establish yourself as a potential leader, do the hard thing for once: Admit that Franken was NOT given a chance to defend himself against a coordinated scheme of which you yourself could very well be the next target, and ask him to stay at the very least until the results of the ethics committee inquiry are in. In this case being the hero means admitting a mistake. This is quite apart from the fact that Al Franken is quite probably the Democrat in the Senate that enjoys THE most respect among party voters nationally. Consider also, please, what that will translate out to in contributions to our candidates in next year's vital mid-term cycle.. So far, I see us at a few million in the hole if Al Franken leaves.

I'll check to see if it's still there in a few hours.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:17 PM

48. YES. Why don't Dems do this?! Coordinated media outreach is KEY to GOP media manipulation

If Dems want to get their message out, they need to work together. Call joint press conferences, and repeat the same talking points. Go on TV and repeat the same talking points.


Just get out there and use the same talking points! It's simple. It's the way the GOP got us to talk about 'death panels'. Or 'birth certificates'. Or 'socialist Obama'.
We need to start doing this.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:36 PM

52. She is catching hell thank goodness

 

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Response to SHRED (Reply #52)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 01:04 AM

71. Will she read this or will her assistants delete it all

They're not keeping up with it tonight but it was deleted earlier

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:42 PM

57. I grow less impressed w/Gillibrand

Seems to me she's running for president and is a party of one. Like Bernie.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat Dec 9, 2017, 11:59 PM

63. Thank you for this info and for the shout out! I'm glad to see the activism.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:39 AM

65. Is there an anti-Gillibrand FB page or Twitter yet?

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Seriously asking because I would not doubt it.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 12:51 AM

68. It's the truth

She made a power play and it backfired. Throwing a beloved Senator under the bus was a pretty crappy strategy. And people are making their feelings heard.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 03:11 AM

78. Good. I emailed cantwell, murray, Brown and twittered Franken at personaland senate.

I emailed Wyden and harris.What feels like ethical to these weak politicians feels like power to republicans and it is. I left message after message on any blog I could find.

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Response to George Eliot (Reply #78)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:01 AM

82. +1000 well done

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 06:16 AM

84. That Huff post article is spot on.

Shared it to my FB page. Unfortunately my two Republican Senators probably are celebrating.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 08:35 AM

89. They've actually

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….hurt what this movement is trying to accomplish by trivializing the meaning of harassment.

The ethics investigation would have helped the Dems and helped women.

Beyond furious at them and their action will have no effect whatsoever on Repugs who are laughing their heads off.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #89)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 11:30 AM

96. Yep!

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Response to zentrum (Reply #89)

Mon Dec 11, 2017, 10:26 PM

105. Thank you

They did more to hurt women than help them.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun Dec 10, 2017, 07:31 PM

103. Every Email I get asking for money,

 

I unsubscribe and in thee reason box I add, Wrong choice on Sen. Franken!

Do not bother me as you don't represent my values!

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