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Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:59 AM Dec 2017

Just got this text from my daughter

"Did you see the ad looking for women to "claim" sexual misconduct toward Bernie Sanders? They're looking for 8 people."

Apparently it's on Facebook. Anyone else catch it? She's still trying to find link. Will update if she finds it.....

Link: https://lawandcrime.com/exclusive/apparent-hillary-clinton-supporters-are-plotting-to-falsely-accuse-bernie-sanders-of-sexual-assault/

Thank you, uppityperson for the link!

Disclaimer given: this op is for information only. As #fakenews it needs to be squashed and we need to be aware that these postings are out there.

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Just got this text from my daughter (Original Post) Heartstrings Dec 2017 OP
Somebody told me 8 accusers need to be the magic number nowadays kimbutgar Dec 2017 #1
Did they say whether it has to be true? dchill Dec 2017 #2
+1 MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #5
There was a sarcastic tweet saying something similar a day or so ago. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #3
This is crazy. I knew something like this would happen MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #4
A quick fb search shows links to here uppityperson Dec 2017 #6
Thanks, will post in the op Heartstrings Dec 2017 #7
Well found. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #8
A heads up - the last time this story was posted as an OP, it got hidden by a jury: Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #9
Uh oh, I guess..... Heartstrings Dec 2017 #10
We take our chances every time we post, juries differ, Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #13
Thanks! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #14
You could self-delete the OP and avoid the risk. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #15
What's the sentence, other than the op being removed? Heartstrings Dec 2017 #17
If (big IF) a jury voted to hide, Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #18
If you have 5 hidden posts in 90 days, you're Flagged For Review and can't post Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #21
Thanks, I thought it deserved getting out there... Heartstrings Dec 2017 #23
But it is #fakenews Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #24
Yes, it is Heartstrings Dec 2017 #25
Good, glad we're on the same page. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #28
I checked his twitter feed, he seems left LeftInTX Dec 2017 #43
I do, too. Rhiannon12866 Dec 2017 #26
Fwiw... it did get alerted on. TDale313 Dec 2017 #33
One thing the GOP can rest easy on.... world wide wally Dec 2017 #11
Too true... Pachamama Dec 2017 #27
Someone on social media is saying Hillary supporters are trying to falsely setup Bernie still_one Dec 2017 #12
Doesn't look good for the metoo movement ProudLib72 Dec 2017 #16
I wouldn't be surprised either, but I would also think it would have more to do with creating still_one Dec 2017 #19
No, it was a sarcastic tweet from one woman, who appears to be a Democrat: Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #22
I bet it wouldn't be hard to figure out who doxxed her. R B Garr Dec 2017 #31
I suspect it was on the back of the clickbait article linked in the OP. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #34
It was obvious cynicsm. That's all it took to get rid of Franken, and R B Garr Dec 2017 #35
Yes. Denzil_DC Dec 2017 #36
All true, which makes you wonder whats so important R B Garr Dec 2017 #37
Yeah, that's how false claims snowball. LakeArenal Dec 2017 #38
That was obvious cynicism. Except it actually happened to Democrats. R B Garr Dec 2017 #20
After 2016, you'd think Dems would be better at spotting RepublicanRussian trolls. Obviously not. LonePirate Dec 2017 #29
Obviously, not a real ad. Doodley Dec 2017 #30
As a Hillary supporter myself... Tavarious Jackson Dec 2017 #32
So you were sent to a jury.... LakeArenal Dec 2017 #39
Thanks LakeArenal! Heartstrings Dec 2017 #40
I checked out the link and it looks like right wing click bait. MustLoveBeagles Dec 2017 #41
Thank you Heartstrings Dec 2017 #42

dchill

(38,453 posts)
2. Did they say whether it has to be true?
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:04 AM
Dec 2017

I'll bet not.

By the way Gillibrand, et al, see how that works?

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
3. There was a sarcastic tweet saying something similar a day or so ago.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:06 AM
Dec 2017

It was pumped up by some clickbait media outlet to be a grand plot in the making, but it wasn't serious, and the woman responsible protected her account so it's only visible to followers.

I've no idea whether anyone else has made the same sarcastic comment on Facebook, a serious call, or it's just Chinese whispers based on that earlier tweet.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,583 posts)
4. This is crazy. I knew something like this would happen
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:06 AM
Dec 2017

I'm adding this to my journal. I'll check back tomorrow to see if someone has the link. Thanks for the heads up.

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
8. Well found.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:22 AM
Dec 2017

That's the story I was referring to in this reply above: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029962431#post3

Somebody posted it as an OP three days ago, but it got hidden because it was garbage: https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029952144 (I was the last reply, and just made it in under the wire before it got zapped)

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
13. We take our chances every time we post, juries differ,
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:38 AM
Dec 2017

but if this was my OP ... Just wouldn't feel good if you got a hide and I hadn't said anything.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
17. What's the sentence, other than the op being removed?
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:46 AM
Dec 2017

Too late to read all the regs....cliff notes if you can enlighten me plz?

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
18. If (big IF) a jury voted to hide,
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:51 AM
Dec 2017

your OP would disappear from the GD page (you'd still be able to see it by going into My Posts and finding your replies here), you'd receive a personal message notification of the hide and the grounds for it, and a chance to appeal, and 20% would be knocked off your Chance of serving on Juries total for 90 days.

Rhiannon12866

(204,827 posts)
21. If you have 5 hidden posts in 90 days, you're Flagged For Review and can't post
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:55 AM
Dec 2017

If you only have one, it disappears in 90 days. I recced your OP, think it's relevant and timely news.

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
24. But it is #fakenews
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:13 AM
Dec 2017

It's a RW journalist, Colin Kalmbacher, working for Dan Abrams' Law & Crime, trying to stir up animosity between Hillary and Bernie supporters on the back of an exaggerated and twisted interpretation of a single tweet.

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)
25. Yes, it is
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:18 AM
Dec 2017

And, just to be clear, needs to be squashed....can't squash it if we don't know it's out there.

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
28. Good, glad we're on the same page.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:23 AM
Dec 2017

But some folks below didn't realize that - this is the danger of posting something like this story without context or comment in the OP (some folks only skim the replies, if they read them at all).

LeftInTX

(25,151 posts)
43. I checked his twitter feed, he seems left
Tue Dec 12, 2017, 12:31 AM
Dec 2017

Like in JPR, anti-Hillary left. He tweets left wing talking points along with Assange and Glenn Greenwald.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
33. Fwiw... it did get alerted on.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:35 AM
Dec 2017

I was on the jury. Voted not to hide. Assume it would be hidden already if it was gonna be.

world wide wally

(21,739 posts)
11. One thing the GOP can rest easy on....
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:36 AM
Dec 2017

There will never be eight women that would ever even claim to have been wth Mitch McConnell.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
12. Someone on social media is saying Hillary supporters are trying to falsely setup Bernie
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:38 AM
Dec 2017

I say bullshit. Anything from Social media should be regarded as suspect

ProudLib72

(17,984 posts)
16. Doesn't look good for the metoo movement
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:46 AM
Dec 2017

Either way, it's another hit at their credibility. I wouldn't be surprised if this is a RW set up to discredit all the allegations against Dotard.

still_one

(92,061 posts)
19. I wouldn't be surprised either, but I would also think it would have more to do with creating
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:51 AM
Dec 2017

divisions among Democrats, by trying divide more moderate elements in the party with progressive elements. 2018 is just around the corner


Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
22. No, it was a sarcastic tweet from one woman, who appears to be a Democrat:
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:58 AM
Dec 2017
https://twitter.com/gabyfane

She deleted all her tweets, changed her handle to read "She changed her handle to @beendoxxed" and links to this other protected twitter account: https://twitter.com/BeenDoxxed

Her profile there reads:


I've been doxxed and am reporting to authorities

"We are the ones we have been waiting for." - Barack Obama CA, NYC, NJ, UK, CA, PDX #StillWithHer

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
34. I suspect it was on the back of the clickbait article linked in the OP.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:37 AM
Dec 2017

The comments were a bit ... lively.

I don't think she intended any serious harm. I've seen far worse posted here the last week or two (well, today even) that a hostile media outlet could have a field day with!

Denzil_DC

(7,222 posts)
36. Yes.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:54 AM
Dec 2017

But what's poisonous is that it was framed in the article as "Hillary supporters" doing this, rather than one one woman (who just happens to be a Hillary supporter) making a throwaway jibe.

One thing we know only too well is that there's no benefit to a Democrat in further stoking the flames between Hillary supporters and Sanders supporters!

But that's what this RW writer for a RW outlet set out to do. And folks replying below are apparently looking at Russians and other tangents for an explanation, because it seems few read all the earlier replies in a thread. Which is why I'd have self-deleted if this had been my OP.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
37. All true, which makes you wonder whats so important
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 04:00 AM
Dec 2017

about one woman’s tweet and her being doxxed that it has to be reported here — except that someone dared to suggest equal reciprocal treatment.

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
38. Yeah, that's how false claims snowball.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 11:54 AM
Dec 2017

Hillary supporters doing this.... We know that isn't true. But if it gets repeated enough..


R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
20. That was obvious cynicism. Except it actually happened to Democrats.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 01:53 AM
Dec 2017

I can't believe people fall for this.

 

Tavarious Jackson

(1,595 posts)
32. As a Hillary supporter myself...
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 02:34 AM
Dec 2017

I know this to be true. We would not have gone to any Bernie events much less take a picture with him. This is RW or Russian propaganda

LakeArenal

(28,806 posts)
39. So you were sent to a jury....
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 12:02 PM
Dec 2017

Ya ask an unpopular question here, and the next thing bam you are an instigator..

I see elsewhere it's getting iffy if you say anything negative about any of the individuals signing the now infamous "list".

That includes Sanders. As a previous Sanders supporter, I say too bad soo sad.. He signed so he has to deal with the repercussions.

His presidential hope was pretty dimmed, but now certainly dead, as I hope all the signer's are.

Hey Heartstrings, post your questions. If DU can't handle it, they will let you know. Even our most beloved posters here have been removed sometime.

MustLoveBeagles

(11,583 posts)
41. I checked out the link and it looks like right wing click bait.
Mon Dec 11, 2017, 11:13 PM
Dec 2017

When I read your post last night I was worried that what happened to Al Franken would happen to Bernie. As much as I'm disappointed in Bernie for calling on Franken to resign, I didn't want the same thing to happen to him. It looks like my fear was unfounded, at least for the time being. Thanks for bringing this to our attention.

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