How does any thinking person believe Gillibrand could beat Trump if a Hillary couldnt?

[EffieBlack]

Really?!

[dchill]

1. Hillary DID.

That's what we need to look into.

[Hortensis]

19. +1000. She is America's choice.

[Tavarious Jackson]

2. No she can't

Hillary is brilliant with a lot of policy wonk and foreign policy experience. Don't worry.. she won't even win the primary.

[democratisphere]

3. Democrats are desperate for a dynamic person to replace drumpf.

Desperation sometimes causes one to falsley see more in a potential candidate then there really is. Such is the case with Gillibrand. The quest for a substantial Presidential Dem canidate continues.

[R B Garr]

4. Agreed. Gillibrand needed the Clintons. Clintons

didn’t need Gillibrand. Doesn’t look like she has a head for politics.

[SFnomad]

5. With the never-Gillibrand faction of the Democratic Party gaining steam ... in a purity vs. tRump

election, tRump will end up winning, again.

[democratisphere]

7. I believe it was Gillibrand that has attempted to purify the Democratic Party.

[JimBeard]

26. Or it could possibly be Mike Pence that would bring a lot of Republicans back home.

[TreasonousBastard]

6. I do. She wiped out her House opposition and then after being appointed to...

Hillary's Senate seat, she wiped out the opposition in subsequent elections. Nobody thought she could do any of that.

Her votes and positions have been solid. She's fended off attacks from both the left and right. Don't ever sell her short.

[peequod]

9. Lets see how things go for her after the knives

...she plunged in Bill and Al’s backs. I’ll be watching her re-election very carefully.

[Bibluca]

33. No party loyalty though

That's enough right there.

There was zero reason for her to open her mouth about either Clinton or Franken.

Rank opportunism. Quite Trump-like in that regard.

[4now]

8. Much less baggage

[Cicada]

20. Clinton rules in press, decades of stories saying Hillary was crooked

Hillary was damaged goods

[C Moon]

10. Because Hillary DID beat Trump. Handily.

But the election was stolen.

[DonCoquixote]

11. it also depends

on who she makes peace with. For example, as nice as Tim Kaine was, he did not have the drawing power of a Liz Warren, Kamala Harris or Cory Booker. If she cozies up to either of those two, (especially Booker) than enough people will be able to vote for her ticket even if they are not so thrilled about her.

[jalan48]

12. Why would we even run Gillibrand?

[JI7]

13. i think the big tobacco thing could hurt her

[Dorian Gray]

16. I have no idea what big tobacco position she has taken...

but is there even such a thing as big tobacco anymore?

[TreasonousBastard]

35. She doesn't reeally have a positition that I know of-- she was a partner in the law firm...

defending Philip Morris, but quit that job to get into politics, working closely with Hillary.

[Dorian Gray]

43. Thanks...

I didn't know that.

[JHB]

14. Because RWers havent been using her name as a chew toy for...

...a quarter century.

Not that they can’t port that bile over pretty easy. When Obama came in they just dusted off the framework they’d built up to harass Bill Clinton, with an extra boost from racism.

[Bibluca]

34. Gillibrand will become Hillary 2.0

Simple for the RW to do. Two "New York liberals."

Even throwing Franken under the bus, a G did, will be used to paint her as the new "nasty" woman.

[MrsCoffee]

36. The RW doesnt need to do a thing. Seems DU has that handled.

[JHB]

41. Her own fault.

She failed to fully evaluate the situation, and started a ball rolling that hurt the party at a critical time.

[JHB]

40. Like I said, they can port it over to her pretty easily

Bile-spewing at designated objets du foam has been a RW mainstay since at least Vietnam.

[Soxfan58]

15. Repervs

Have not spent almost 30 yrs destroying Gillibrand's reputation.

[Paka]

17. True, but she's destroying it herself.

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[Trumpocalypse]

18. She can win in those white working class rust belt areas

that Clinton lost. She's done it before.

[beachbum bob]

21. reason one? Gillibrand would tell trump to kiss her ass.....that in it self would win her the

election....

[LuvLoogie]

22. Hillary did beat trump.

And she'd beat KG, too.

[Renew Deal]

23. Why? Because shes a woman?

[MoonRiver]

25. She'll never make it that far, thank goodness.

[PragmaticLiberal]

31. I agree.

I might be wrong but I'd be shocked if either Harris or Booker isn't our nominee.

I'm looking at this strategically and I think those two have the potential to appeal to a broader base of voters.

[Demsrule86]

39. I think it will be someone not even on the radar now. People are looking for change...I doubt a

Senator will win the primary...not that there aren't qualified Senators...just think it will be an unknown.

[Agschmid]

27. How could any person think America would elect a...

Racist, repugnant, mentally unstable, rapist to office?

And yet here we are.

[TexasProgresive]

28. I had reservation about HRC that if she won the pukes would delight in making her fail

more so than President Obama, but I had no problem voting for her. This senator who had no real name recognition for me until this possible political and not ethical move to get name recognition, well let's say if she was our nominee I might be throwing up as I voted.

For other Dem voters it might make the difference between voting and not voting.

What is her track record in the Senate? Ms. Clinton has a lifelong record of real public service. I so wish she was president even with a turtle run Senate and Paul Ayn Rand as Speaker. I really think she'd wound them up, or to use another metaphor, hoisted them by their own petard.

[ollie10]

32. She is not the best nominee

Wimp

[mythology]

37. Considering Clinton primarily lost because Republicans weaponized the email server

Yes. If there was no email server, there is no October Comey announcement. Right or wrong, the Clintons have a reputation for being shady.

Republicans were able to take advantage of that better than we took advantage of Trump being worse than shady.

[Blue_Tires]

38. Can we please discuss 2018 first? Thank you very much...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

42. Less baggage. That being said I am not convinced she's our strongest candidate.

However I have an open mind.