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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA tale of £13 trillion in hidden wealth
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Here's a fairly quick read from The Guardian. The site is safe and the article is short enough that I am not going to excerpt any of it here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jul/21/global-elite-tax-offshore-economy
nc4bo
(17,651 posts)Profit made off the backs of middle, working classes and the poor and/or magic money created by hedge funds, corporate greed and full blown vulture capitalism, all on a global scale.
And the 1% wonder why we want their hides tarred and feathered?
Mimosa
(9,131 posts)Thanks for posting it, Stinky.
drm604
(16,230 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)need more people to see this
Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)I have email.
I have DU.
That's it.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:56 PM - Edit history (1)
"The problem here is that the assets of these countries are held by a small number of wealthy individuals while the debts are shouldered by the ordinary people of these countries through their governments," the report says.Note, it was not the welfare queens, unions, poor, socialized medicine or social safety nets that did it. Instead it was the people who profited from their labor and the planet's resouces That is a proof of FDR's warning:
The liberty of a democracy is not safe if the people tolerate the growth of private power to a point where it comes stronger than their democratic state itself. That, in its essence, is fascism - ownership of government by an individual, by a group...
In order to work together peacefully in cooperation, we pay taxes through our government; but like a temporary gastric bypass gone wrong, the nutrients are not being returned to the body politic, so it has been reduced to the point of feebleness. Thus they are above our leaders who are bound by their position in this body. Some like Obama and Warren, tried to rein them in by calling to reduce the bypass by going after overseas tax havens, and are called by the ravenous rich 'socialists' and 'anti-business.'
One of Barack's very first actions was to go after tax havens overseas, which began a hailstorm of media criticism in his first months and they then instituted a very dangerous game, since their billions pay for many supporters willing to kill for them. They have not stopped railing against him in vicious terms and have now achieved their goal of convincing both the left and right parts of the population that government's mere existence is the problem and not them.
The belief of the people that government should stand between them and these groups has existed for hundreds of years, as an association that they could have some input. Clearly, the rich minority are secretive about where their money comes from, which is us, in order to not inflame the majority against them. Instead, they pay media to inflame us against each other. They created the Tea Party by media to continue the flow of wealth to them without stopping. The spirits of the people we fought in WW2 now keep Americans busy by media mass hypnosis about God, Guns, Gays and Gynecology, going after each other, to take their minds off of where the money went:
"The really dangerous American fascist... is the man who wants to do in the United States in an American way what Hitler did in Germany in a Prussian way. The American fascist would prefer not to use violence.
His method is to poison the channels of public information. With a fascist the problem is never how best to present the truth to the public but how best to use the news to deceive the public into giving the fascist and his group more money or more power...
They claim to be super-patriots, but they would destroy every liberty guaranteed by the Constitution. They demand free enterprise, but are the spokesmen for monopoly and vested interest.
Their final objective, toward which all their deceit is directed, is to capture political power so that, using the power of the state and the power of the market simultaneously, they may keep the common man in eternal subjection."
-- U.S. Vice President Henry A. Wallace, quoted in the New York Times, April 9, 1944
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)Thank you for that wonderful Henry Wallace quote - true words and timeless (unfortunately).
freshwest
(53,661 posts)scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)sees to it very well that they are kept that way.
malaise
(268,724 posts)Great post indeed
Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)your quote:
-- U.S. Vice President Henry A. Wallace, quoted in the New York Times, April 9, 1944
When Glass Steagal was rescinded, they knocked down the last barrier between them and the money they needed for absolute power.
And they sent out their 'private armies to Crush OWS because any sign of the people uniting in oppositio to them was viewed as a huge threat that needed to be stomped out quickly and efficiently.
But yet, even here on DU we had people believing that the Greek Working Class were the responsible for the collapse of the World Economy. And our own politicians, at least until last summer, talking about 'fixing SS in order to fix the deficit'. An outright lie that was again bought by even some on the Left.
This should be an OP.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)They blamed them for NOT curbing the offshoring of wealth, NOT showing the political courage to rein in their plutocrats. And they had developed a broad, populist, anti-tax culture that blamed their creditors for their problems, when they were closer to home.
In order to continue not paying in, they sustained their safety net by borrowing from countries who were biting the bullet, insisting on taxes being paid, to keep their SOL high. As those countries began to struggle, they resented discounting the loans, which they had done previously.
Sounds familiar, doesn't it?
We have 'patriots,' libertarians, corporatists and teabaggers singing 'the IRS is illegal' tuneand claiming the entire financial sector is at fault, poor people or Obama. But it is the propaganda funded by the plutocrats and the people that have been voted into office who are burning down the house here.
ananda
(28,837 posts).. that that much money can be hoarded without being taxed. Ugh.
muriel_volestrangler
(101,271 posts)just to emphasise the size of the fortune this is about.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)Fixed now.
Berlum
(7,044 posts)sheesh
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Just as soon as they save up enough.
stop picking on them dammitt!
freshwest
(53,661 posts)That'll keep the commoners too busy to go after them. It always has, since we seem to hate each other so easily. So, I'll go along with not picking on them, for just a little while...
Although I know you were being saracastic.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)£=Pounds, $=Dollars.
I'm not saying this just to be nit-picky, I simply think that the impact of 21 TRILLION DOLLARS makes the true amount of these offshore hoards that much more compelling to the U.S. reader.
Stinky The Clown
(67,765 posts)I was in a hurry to get someplace.
scarletwoman
(31,893 posts)know that the actual dollar amount was much higher than 13 trillion.
grasswire
(50,130 posts)otohara
(24,135 posts)TLC, the darling of cable TV needs to ask why these people feel the need to hoard more money than they can possibly spend.
Octafish
(55,745 posts)For those interested:
http://www.thekomisarscoop.com/category/offshore/
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)"...0.001% of the world's population a tiny class of the mega-rich who have more in common with each other than those at the bottom of the income scale in their own societies. ..."
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Tsiyu
(18,186 posts)We can all feel it, we have seen our power and our $$$ just drain away into the hands of the select few, yet we are like the frog slowly boiling in the water.
I keep hoping more Americans will get fed up with this fascism but they are perhaps too busy surviving, and being convinced it's all their fault, to rise up as we all should. And of course the media keep them distracted and unfocused so they can't really see what's happening to their livelihoods and their nation.
What will it take? Don't know, but I hope this nation's good people of all races and creeds will someday soon say "Enough!"
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Just as a reminder.
malaise
(268,724 posts)Frightening is the word
freshwest
(53,661 posts)malaise
(268,724 posts)Jamaica - carried it in the international section of the mid-day news. I was pleasantly surprised.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)HiPointDem
(20,729 posts)agent46
(1,262 posts)and they're charging us for it. Time to overturn the tables of finance.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Zalatix
(8,994 posts)Create tax firewalls that make it hard to send money out of the country.
ljm2002
(10,751 posts)...deserves to be read widely.
We need to expose the self-serving bastards and all of their methods and havens. Otherwise we have no hope of stemming the tide.
We here in the US are so used to reading about other countries, and their plutocrats stealing money and hoarding it offshore. Well guess what folks, it's happening to us too.
dragonlady
(3,577 posts)He said he would write about it tomorrow. I'm sure his comments will be worth reading.