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LisaM

(27,800 posts)
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:36 PM Dec 2017

I met Hillary for about two seconds yesterday.

She was doing a book signing in Seattle. I was accompanying a disabled person, so was lucky to be very early in the line. Many of the people around me were obviously disabled, in wheelchairs, with canes, crutches or the like, and many of them had stories they wanted to share with her.

She took time to chat and listen with every person who talked to her. She didn't rush anyone. She was warm, charming, engaged, and she looked like a million bucks, even after having done an event the night before (she also arrived early).

What struck me most was that she seemed fully aware of many of the organizations the disabled people were telling her about - she spoke very knowledgeably about a lot of different groups doing good work. She clearly inspired a lot of people with disabilities who took time out of their day at some discomfort to themselves to meet her. She was personal with every person in the line.

When it was my turn, I choked up and just said I didn't have any words. She squeezed my hand and thanked me for coming and said she appreciated it.

The fact that she is not played up as a warm, caring, and emotional person to me lies squarely at the feet of a cynical media. It's all there for anyone who wants to see it. They should have shown some of her one-on-one moments. It's her bailiwick, and it's actually something a POTUS needs to be good at, IMHO.

I was privileged to be there, and privileged to be among so many people who rely on people like Hillary to fight for them as they go through the basic difficulties of getting through their day.

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I met Hillary for about two seconds yesterday. (Original Post) LisaM Dec 2017 OP
Thank you for sharing. She would have been a damned good POTUS... Raster Dec 2017 #1
Great Post! Hillary has always been my hero too. I always thought if I ever had the good fortune to skylucy Dec 2017 #2
It frustrates me that her great personal warmth is downplayed. LisaM Dec 2017 #5
Contrast this to the current White House occupant. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #8
I have said this many times mercuryblues Dec 2017 #11
I know someone who went to high school with HRC - a friend's mother. LisaM Dec 2017 #14
LOL mercuryblues Dec 2017 #16
LMAO took me 2-3 secs for it sink in. :) LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #48
+10000! skylucy Dec 2017 #44
+1000 brer cat Dec 2017 #46
How nice for this window into that scene. Hortensis Dec 2017 #3
I had a two second meeting with her on the campaign trail. Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2017 #4
Yes, there were some little girls there. LisaM Dec 2017 #7
K&R betsuni Dec 2017 #6
She has looked happy and relaxed in recent pictures. Irish_Dem Dec 2017 #9
I think I would have choked up as well. LanternWaste Dec 2017 #10
Thanks for sharing this, LisaM! And thanks for helping someone else to meet her, too! n/t pnwmom Dec 2017 #12
This is so good to hear. An accomplished woman for a lifetime, striving for the best. MikeydaDog Dec 2017 #13
She was booed by the GOP when she had her healthcare idea as first lady. BigmanPigman Dec 2017 #15
THe media created a narrative about her and it was a circular firing squad. Amaryllis Dec 2017 #17
Yes! The media had a big hand in it too. Scumbags all. LiberalFighter Dec 2017 #49
My mother and Greek immigrant grandmother met Hillary when she was FLOTUS SpankMe Dec 2017 #18
I worked a little bit on the Dukakis campaign, delivering and putting up yard signs. LisaM Dec 2017 #45
I would've choked up, too. I babbled like an idiot when I met Joe Biden... cynatnite Dec 2017 #19
she was in Seattle yesterday???? samnsara Dec 2017 #20
She had a large event at the Paramount on Monday (part of her tour) LisaM Dec 2017 #22
Would have been one of the best Presidents the U.S. has had. C Moon Dec 2017 #21
I think I'd be ashamed to meet her OriginalGeek Dec 2017 #23
Thank you so much for sharing. I would so love to meet her. Hekate Dec 2017 #24
How fortunate you are! KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2017 #25
I've known this about her for over 20 years DFW Dec 2017 #26
HRC always will be what could have been for the greater good! democratisphere Dec 2017 #27
Michael Moores Trumpland should be required viewing for all Hillary haters Pepsidog Dec 2017 #28
Thank you, LisaM. What a moving story! lunamagica Dec 2017 #29
Yes, people who know her or see her treestar Dec 2017 #30
That's the real Hillary Clinton. Swallowtail Dec 2017 #31
Welcome to DU, Swallowtail! LisaM Dec 2017 #32
It's so unfair what the right-wingers have done to her FakeNoose Dec 2017 #33
She was AMAZING, as well, during that grueling Benghazi hearing! maddiemom Dec 2017 #53
Yes, and the debates with Trump - so great FakeNoose Dec 2017 #54
Welcome to DU, Swallowtail! calimary Dec 2017 #63
Thanks for sharing Catherine Vincent Dec 2017 #34
Yes, security was very tight. LisaM Dec 2017 #38
Thank you so much for the lovely writeup and so glad you had a good experience. riversedge Dec 2017 #35
Okay. sheshe2 Dec 2017 #36
Thanks for sharing such a wonderful encounter. Love Hillary iluvtennis Dec 2017 #37
Thanks for posting this, Lisa NastyRiffraff Dec 2017 #39
I'm chiming in here onethatcares Dec 2017 #40
For my 500th post I would like to offer... aka-chmeee Dec 2017 #60
... Lucinda Dec 2017 #41
I have met her twice at fundraisers Gothmog Dec 2017 #42
Great you got to meet and speak w/Hillary. She's tops. oasis Dec 2017 #43
Your story made me tear up amuse bouche Dec 2017 #47
If the media DID show her being warm, caring and generous... Beartracks Dec 2017 #50
K&R smirkymonkey Dec 2017 #51
The nation really lost out: Smart, prepared, humble yet confident, tough as nails ecstatic Dec 2017 #52
She has been criticized since the day she was made First Lady of Ark lancelyons Dec 2017 #55
Great story. nt Honeycombe8 Dec 2017 #56
The media has always gone with the "Hillary is a b*tch" angle because it sells. Willie Pep Dec 2017 #57
Yes. This is what irritated me during the election and before. Jakes Progress Dec 2017 #58
Wow that was close Soxfan58 Dec 2017 #59
I still hear people calling Clinton a "weak" candidate. Maybe Clinton and Al Gore lost because Nitram Dec 2017 #61
+1 treestar Dec 2017 #65
Yes, we were lucky to have him when we did. Nitram Dec 2017 #66
Bingo pandr32 Dec 2017 #68
+1 nt Kahuna7 Dec 2017 #76
you're so right. barbtries Dec 2017 #62
Many many people fell for the "bitch" meme SHRED Dec 2017 #64
No doubt about it, she's been given a hatchet job. She impressed me in her campaign, she was ... marble falls Dec 2017 #67
Beautiful post ploppy Dec 2017 #69
Don't forget DownriverDem Dec 2017 #70
K&R! R B Garr Dec 2017 #71
anybody who has, and keeps friends, for over 50 years, is NOT some cold-hearted icecube. niyad Dec 2017 #72
You teared *me* up. 💙 BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2017 #73
The media appears to be run almost exclusively by men who dislike women. wildeyed Dec 2017 #74
I think it's disgraceful how this woman has been treated. hamsterjill Dec 2017 #75
It's the old, "She's too soft and emotional," vs "She's a stone-cold bitch" meme Ilsa Dec 2017 #77

Raster

(20,998 posts)
1. Thank you for sharing. She would have been a damned good POTUS...
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:45 PM
Dec 2017

...and certainly, heads and shoulders above the abomination we now have.

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
2. Great Post! Hillary has always been my hero too. I always thought if I ever had the good fortune to
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:48 PM
Dec 2017

meet her that I would be overcome by emotion. How different our country, our world AND America's standing in the world would be if the person who got the most votes was our President.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
5. It frustrates me that her great personal warmth is downplayed.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:52 PM
Dec 2017

I don't think that her persona comes through well on camera. I've seen her twice in person (the other was at a rally in 2008 that got laughably little local coverage in comparison to one Obama held the same day, even though she spoke longer) and she was warm, engaging, and impressive both times.


But her real strengths lie in more intimate settings and I don't think the media has done her any great service by not playing that up. The media wants rock stars, not candidates.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
8. Contrast this to the current White House occupant.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:02 PM
Dec 2017

This was secret video footage of Trump meeting some kid reporter backstage at a campaign event.

His tone and body language in the first 13 seconds of the video tells you all you need to know about what type of person Donald Trump is and what he really thinks of other people:

mercuryblues

(14,530 posts)
11. I have said this many times
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:06 PM
Dec 2017

You don't have friends from grade school, high school stick by you if you are a cold, uncaring, callous human being. She has mant life long friends and that says something about her.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
14. I know someone who went to high school with HRC - a friend's mother.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:10 PM
Dec 2017

She still has the yearbook that Hillary signed (when she was actually in high school, not years later when she was a DA )

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
3. How nice for this window into that scene.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:51 PM
Dec 2017

Wish I could have been there also, but this is next best. You're obviously hardly the first person to choke up at what could have been.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,164 posts)
4. I had a two second meeting with her on the campaign trail.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:51 PM
Dec 2017

I told her my two young daughters were excited about the possibility of the first “girl president.”

She gave me a huge smile and thanked me when she heard that.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
7. Yes, there were some little girls there.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 04:54 PM
Dec 2017

There was a baby that was too young to have been born before November 2016. I hope she got to meet Hillary too!

Irish_Dem

(46,860 posts)
9. She has looked happy and relaxed in recent pictures.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:04 PM
Dec 2017

Thank you for your report about her, confirms that she is doing well.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
10. I think I would have choked up as well.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:06 PM
Dec 2017

I think I would have choked up as well.

The thirty year old RW narrative against her was simply to successful for reality to overcome in the minds of half-wits and nincompoops.

And dammit... that narrative was played out again for all the simpletons to watch and join in on last year (e.g. when she developed pneumonia on the campaign trial, I've never seen so many otherwise rational people buy the bills of goods sold to them by the RW, with idiotic concern-trolling about her health even hitting DU)

On the other hand, anyone need only listen to her address to the United Nations Fourth World Conference on Women in Beijing 22 years ago to realize the objective reality-- she cares about people due to her sincerity, no question.

 

MikeydaDog

(140 posts)
13. This is so good to hear. An accomplished woman for a lifetime, striving for the best.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:09 PM
Dec 2017

Earning so much of her accomplishment thru decades of hard work.

One of the toughest issues watching 2016 were all different groups working so hard to ensure this was not seen or believed about HRC. It certainly was not only on the media.

Thank you for sharing your experience. What a treat to be in Seattle and participate. I forgot about this. I had half considered driving up to Seattle to do this with my copy of the book.

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
15. She was booed by the GOP when she had her healthcare idea as first lady.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:11 PM
Dec 2017

She was told by the GOP since 1992 that Hillary is a WOMAN and she should shut the duck up and be a nice, little, silent first lady and leave the important issues to the men. She was hated by them since because they know she is smart, a life long civil servant, and is tough. They hate women...always did and always will from the looks of it lately.

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
18. My mother and Greek immigrant grandmother met Hillary when she was FLOTUS
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:26 PM
Dec 2017

My mom actually got about 10 minutes of actual one-on-one time with Hillary in an ante-room before they went into a conference room for a discussion panel on working women in America.

Mom and Yia-yia's impressions of Hillary were the same as the OP's - Hillary was warm, knowledgeable, smiling, engaged, worried about those who were struggling, etc.

This knowledge of Hillary's true personality made all the more grating the media's and the enemy's (read: Republicans') public analysis of her so-called bitchiness and dryness.

Hilary will always be Madame President to me.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
45. I worked a little bit on the Dukakis campaign, delivering and putting up yard signs.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 09:22 PM
Dec 2017

Since they were for people who'd requested them, it was a really fun thing to do, and I'll never forget the older woman, Greek-American, who had tears running down her eyes when I put the sign in her yard.

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
19. I would've choked up, too. I babbled like an idiot when I met Joe Biden...
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:38 PM
Dec 2017

He gave me a kiss on the cheek and we got a selfie together. Awesome guy.

She's utterly amazing and will always have my support and admiration. She's my hero.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
22. She had a large event at the Paramount on Monday (part of her tour)
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:45 PM
Dec 2017

and then she did a quick signing at Elliott Bay yesterday. I actually learned of it through my friend. I think they only released 500 tickets.

My friend bought a newly-released copy of "It Takes a Village" and when we looked at the back, there's a new dedication to her grandchildren.

OriginalGeek

(12,132 posts)
23. I think I'd be ashamed to meet her
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:47 PM
Dec 2017

I feel like I should have supported her from the Primaries on but I fell for propaganda and voted Bernie first. Of course I voted for her in the general but that's not enough to assuage my feelings of guilt for being so stupid.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,489 posts)
25. How fortunate you are!
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:50 PM
Dec 2017

I keep having visions of how wonderful she would be on the international stage for America as our president. And, she would have both fists up for this Repug Congress.

It is some consolation knowing that she and President Obama will continue to be working hard for progressive values and candidates.

Thanks for sharing. .......

DFW

(54,330 posts)
26. I've known this about her for over 20 years
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 05:58 PM
Dec 2017

My parents told me about when they were invited to spend 5 minutes with in the White House, since she didn't get to be around for the Gridiron Dinner that year when my father was president. After five minutes, her aide reminded her that my parents' 5 minutes were up. She said she was having a wonderful time getting to know "these people (my parents)," and to move her schedule back half an hour (they did).

Ten years later, when I finally met her myself, my impression was no different. My daughters were pretty impressed, too, as you can see by the expressions on their faces:
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democratisphere

(17,235 posts)
27. HRC always will be what could have been for the greater good!
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:00 PM
Dec 2017

Damn, I wish she was at the controls of America.

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
28. Michael Moores Trumpland should be required viewing for all Hillary haters
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:26 PM
Dec 2017

Moore does an excellent job looking at Hillary’s career as a citizen and public servant. While no doubt the Trumpanzees would call it “fake news”, he just states the facts. All she has ever done is try and help people. Why else would she take all the abuse she had for so long? The money? Come on, an intelligent woman like Hillary would have had no trouble do exceedingly well financially in the private sector. Combine that with Bill’s earnings potential and public service was a substantial pay cut. How prescient today is her claim regarding a “vast right wing conspiracy?” I dare say even she didn’t know the depth and breathe of that conspiracy and how it has divided our country.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
30. Yes, people who know her or see her
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:29 PM
Dec 2017

Have very different ideas than people who don't, I have noticed. The idea she is "not likable" was always annoying to hear. You knew that person was just parroting a pundit.

Swallowtail

(16 posts)
31. That's the real Hillary Clinton.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:33 PM
Dec 2017

Unfortunately, 25 years of unrelenting rightwing falsehoods and slander have paid off.

FakeNoose

(32,617 posts)
33. It's so unfair what the right-wingers have done to her
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 06:43 PM
Dec 2017

... and Bill too, but mainly Hillary. Even whe she was First Lady it was terrible, all the things they said and wrote about her.

She's much warmer and friendlier in person than she looks on TV, I think maybe she's a little uncomfortable then. Or maybe it's because the interviewers have made her feel uncomfortable. But when Hillary is doing her thing, at her own pace, she's amazing and wonderful.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
53. She was AMAZING, as well, during that grueling Benghazi hearing!
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:41 AM
Dec 2017

She handled things to perfection and never lost her cool. After that, I was surer than ever that I would feel really secure with her in the Oval Office.

FakeNoose

(32,617 posts)
54. Yes, and the debates with Trump - so great
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:47 AM
Dec 2017

Hillary would have made an awesome President. It makes me ill to think about it.

calimary

(81,192 posts)
63. Welcome to DU, Swallowtail!
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:34 AM
Dec 2017

I LOVE stories like this. Too bad it was all "but her emails!" last year. Made me want to scream in frustration!

She had me at "I guess I could have stayed home and baked cookies..." because that was ME, TOO, when I was first working, and I sometimes detected a faint bemused whiff of "oh, she's a 'career-gal'". I was a young married, but I often sensed there was this assumption that my proper place ought to be staying at home, being a housewife, starting a family, and following the conventional template back then. I didn't want to! The new world of work was beckoning and I'd actually found a place in it.

I've loved Hillary since I first learned about her during the campaign in 1992. She was like a lightning bolt! The first "political wife" I could relate to, personally, and the first First Lady with whom I felt I had anything common. They'd all been much older. My parents' generation, not mine. It was always a mom or more often a grandma type I saw. I NEVER saw me. Until HRC.

LisaM

(27,800 posts)
38. Yes, security was very tight.
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:05 PM
Dec 2017

The police had the street blocked off, no one was allowed to bring a bag or purse, and we were wanded by the Secret Service. There were a lot of police and Secret Service around, too.

NastyRiffraff

(12,448 posts)
39. Thanks for posting this, Lisa
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:15 PM
Dec 2017

Many who know Hillary and/or has worked with her have commented on what a warm, friendly, and sometimes funny person she is. I agree that the media has played a MAJOR role in portraying her as cold and calculating.

onethatcares

(16,165 posts)
40. I'm chiming in here
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 07:18 PM
Dec 2017

why do we get the intelligent, emphatic, compassionate people and lose, while the ratf////ers win and take us down?

Yes, I'm aware of Alabama

aka-chmeee

(1,132 posts)
60. For my 500th post I would like to offer...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 08:39 AM
Dec 2017

Part of the reason (just my opinion) is the "When they go low, we go high" handicap; which seems to result in practice as "When they go low, we go high, then we go home and they go to Washington". Only took 13 years to get to 500...makes 1000 look unlikely!

Gothmog

(145,064 posts)
42. I have met her twice at fundraisers
Wed Dec 13, 2017, 08:58 PM
Dec 2017

I got a picture with her on the rope line taken by Congressman Al Green. Green is a friend and he introduced me to Hillary Clinton as his attorney. He claims that I am a civil rights attorney (not true). Hillary told Green that she likes attorneys.

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
50. If the media DID show her being warm, caring and generous...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:01 AM
Dec 2017

... (and I'm not saying they never did, cuz I don't really know), you can bet a LOT of the media would've chalked it up to acting for the cameras, since they cast her in the "role" of the cold, calculating, conniving, carefully-coiffed corporatist.

I sure miss her as President.

==============

ecstatic

(32,677 posts)
52. The nation really lost out: Smart, prepared, humble yet confident, tough as nails
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:32 AM
Dec 2017

She does her homework, because she cares. Has Twitler set aside even 5 minutes to learn and really understand an important issue? I don't think so.

That's great that you got to meet her and confirm what many people have seen for quite some time.

 

lancelyons

(988 posts)
55. She has been criticized since the day she was made First Lady of Ark
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:04 AM
Dec 2017

It started as a campaign to smear Bill and quickly included Hillary. The guy Bosse in the trump admin was in on this smear early on.

Willie Pep

(841 posts)
57. The media has always gone with the "Hillary is a b*tch" angle because it sells.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:38 AM
Dec 2017

A lot of men and even many women hate the idea of a competent and powerful woman so when it was clear that Hillary was not going to just be an ornament in Bill Clinton's White House she was an easy target for being labelled a "b*tch."

I lost a lot of respect for the media last year when they pretty much railroaded Hillary with the overblown e-mail story and their insistence on "both sides are the same" coverage of supposed scandals. It fed the already nutty atmosphere of Hillary hate that has been brewing for decades.


Jakes Progress

(11,122 posts)
58. Yes. This is what irritated me during the election and before.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:19 AM
Dec 2017

Of course idiot republicans will buy the lie about how mean and cold and uncaring Hillary is. What got me was that even here, even now, Democrats fall for the lies and the propaganda. When the proof of her humanity and dedication to others is evident for anyone who would spend five minutes looking. But even here on DU, we heard the most vicious republican talking points spread by people who should know better.

We have to get better at not falling for the lies.

We could have had a real and caring person in the white house. What a waste.

Nitram

(22,776 posts)
61. I still hear people calling Clinton a "weak" candidate. Maybe Clinton and Al Gore lost because
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 09:34 AM
Dec 2017

Americans don't understand that we need boring policy wonks in the highest office of the land, not foul-mouthed frat boys bluffing their way to the top with absolutely no interest or knowledge of the really important issues that need to be dealt with.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
65. +1
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 12:07 PM
Dec 2017

So over the concept that the POTUS has to "inspire" and "have charisma." How many Obamas will come along in one lifetime - he was both.

pandr32

(11,574 posts)
68. Bingo
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:45 PM
Dec 2017

Thanks to all the terrible Hollywood movies that featured stereotypical male heroes as tough guys--always winning the battle much of the public wants what they see as that kind of person as POTUS. Bruce Willis, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwartzenegger are all Republicans, and they always saved the day.
Most of the current population has grown up in front of TV sets and I doubt many of them were watching Nova and The Living Planet (as just two examples).
Faux News really plays up stereotypes, too: African American men as thugs, women as sex objects or dutiful wives, Democrats as weak, etc.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
62. you're so right.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 10:08 AM
Dec 2017

she's had literally decades of bullshit thrown at her. i think it was the DNC in 2016 before that really hit me. 99.9% of most of us would have crumbled long before now, but Hillary will not be held down. they stole the presidency from her but still she keeps on trucking - and the work she's been engaged in for her entire working life is all about helping others.

she gets a bad rap to this very day, and doesn't deserve. A great woman and leader.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
67. No doubt about it, she's been given a hatchet job. She impressed me in her campaign, she was ...
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 01:12 PM
Dec 2017

everything the GOP said she wasn't. I was impressed and so was my wife.

DownriverDem

(6,227 posts)
70. Don't forget
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 02:04 PM
Dec 2017

The repubs spent years from the 1990s on defining both Hillary and Bill Clinton. It was the repubs more than the media. Of course the media is corp owned. And we all know what side they are on.

niyad

(113,216 posts)
72. anybody who has, and keeps friends, for over 50 years, is NOT some cold-hearted icecube.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 03:21 PM
Dec 2017

thank you for sharing this lovely story about Madam President.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
74. The media appears to be run almost exclusively by men who dislike women.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:11 PM
Dec 2017

They value shouting and finger wagging, but only when men do it. When women do it they are 'angry', 'unstable', 'hormonal' and 'too emotional'. And good listening skills are boring, even though they are a sign of compassion and someone who is interested in learning. And extreme feminine competence, well how emasculating is that? Only a cold, calculating bitch could possibly know all that hard math and policy stuff, therefor Clinton is cold. At least that was the narrative of the men who would prefer that women stay in their place where they can be treated as objects.

It was always there for anyone who cared to look. And the more I learn about how men in the so-called liberal media treat their female coworkers, the angrier I get. Because it was THEIR narrative that poisoned the well and now we are stuck with Shitbag Trump for the foreseeable future.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
75. I think it's disgraceful how this woman has been treated.
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:16 PM
Dec 2017

I'm definitely a Hillary fan and have been one since she was First Lady. I think it is absolutely disgraceful how this woman has been treated by the Republicans. They have been so fearful of her because she is strong, smart and independent. That's really all it is. They fear strong, smart and independent women.

I hope that Hillary can take some solace and satisfaction in the fact that at least some issues that belong to women are coming to the forefront and an honest conversation is beginning. She was unfairly denied becoming POTUS, but I truly believe that history is going to treat her kindly. America has been lucky to have her as our advocate.

Ilsa

(61,692 posts)
77. It's the old, "She's too soft and emotional," vs "She's a stone-cold bitch" meme
Thu Dec 14, 2017, 04:42 PM
Dec 2017

for women. Damned one way or the other. GOP sees only black and white. Very autocratic that way.

So glad you got to meet her.

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