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Video of James Holmes emerges (ABC) (Original Post) frogmarch Jul 2012 OP
Fantasy vs Reality - That is interesting. nt Live and Learn Jul 2012 #1
That stood to me. Yes, frogmarch Jul 2012 #2
It is... and isn't JHB Jul 2012 #4
I'm not making too much out of it. Live and Learn Jul 2012 #5
Indeed, studying "subjective experience" is not that unusual in neuroscience arcane1 Jul 2012 #7
I'm fortunate, I think, to not have a tv bhikkhu Jul 2012 #3
I don't think it is the celebrity aspect for all of us. Live and Learn Jul 2012 #6

JHB

(37,158 posts)
4. It is... and isn't
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:53 PM
Jul 2012

We're going to have to see what was going through his mind as he started taking his nosedive, but focusing too quickly on the fantasy vs reality part can lead you in the wrong direction.

I recall quite clearly from my teenage years how some people seemed to think I and my friends would commit mass suicide or go on some rampage because we played Dungeons & Dragons. I was especially galled at religious fundamentalists who don't believe magic is fictional ("I'm having my grip on reality questioned by someone who really believes in evil spirits?", and people took them seriously because they were "concerned parents" and we were teenagers doing something "weird".

Today my friends are engineers, college faculty, salesmen, and assorted other middle-class careers.

Also recall that at this stage after Coumbine all the talk was of trenchcoats and bullying, when the full story seems to be that one had some severe personality problems and the other a willing enabler.

Don't make too much of the early dribs and drabs.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
5. I'm not making too much out of it.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jul 2012

I find all the speculation in to what may have caused him to do this troubling (although human). I much prefer to wait for all the facts to come out. I simply said it was interesting (and it may just be a bit ironic).

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
7. Indeed, studying "subjective experience" is not that unusual in neuroscience
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jul 2012

I think the reporter was too quick to jump to "fantasy vs reality" based on that.

bhikkhu

(10,714 posts)
3. I'm fortunate, I think, to not have a tv
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jul 2012

Perhaps when all things are known I'd be interested to read how it all went wrong for the shooter, but I find the celebrity that comes with violent acts to be somewhat repugnant. I've seen one picture of him - that's enough, and this sort of thing is the reason I quit watching tv years ago - during the run-up to the last Iraq war.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
6. I don't think it is the celebrity aspect for all of us.
Sun Jul 22, 2012, 01:05 PM
Jul 2012

Some of us are just interested in finding out why these things happen and possibly finding a way to help people before they commit acts of violence like this.

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