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Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:26 PM Dec 2017

Would audiotape of Trump, et al. agreeing to quid pro quo be enough?

Most of our speculation about whether or not Mueller can cobble together a case against the Trump cabal is based on witness testimony, intercepted emails, and other compelling circumstantial evidence.

But would the existence of audiotapes between our perps and the Russians be enough to sway the public? Would it be enough to rattle the Republican Congress and force them to impeach? One has to believe that such audio exists. We've been told for a long time that foreign intelligence agencies intercepted communications that compelled them to report nefarious activity to the FBI and the CIA. Malcolm Nance has spoken on the subject.

Of course the validity of the audiotapes would be challenged - it's the spin of choice for the GOP these days - but it seems that actually hearing Kushner, Jr., Pence, Turtle and Ryan, and Donnie 2 Scoops himself captured on tape committing a crime might be the tipping point to sway public opinion.

And if Trump tries to shut down Mueller...I could easily imagine intelligence agencies, domestic and foreign, allowing these tapes to trickle out to the media, another potential backstop to Republican obstruction.

In any case, I'd love to hear ONE audiotape leak that would act as a counterpunch to the current GOP maligning of the Special Counsel Mueller.

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Would audiotape of Trump, et al. agreeing to quid pro quo be enough? (Original Post) Mr. Ected Dec 2017 OP
If they exist and happened before the election, should be enough. But I don't see what transition Hoyt Dec 2017 #1
2nd time you wrote this Corgigal Dec 2017 #2
And you don't either. We both hope they say certain things, but these were after the election, so Hoyt Dec 2017 #4
Just locker room talk. Sneederbunk Dec 2017 #3
Talk of groping is crass and classless quartz007 Dec 2017 #5
For the GOP in Congress, Nope. For the American public, Yes. Freethinker65 Dec 2017 #6
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
1. If they exist and happened before the election, should be enough. But I don't see what transition
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:37 PM
Dec 2017

emails are going to do to take down Trump.

Plus, I don't think most white wing Trump supporters would care what Trump did to get elected. Remember, these are the people who believed Obama's parents planted articles in the Hawaiian Newspapers in the 1960s to fool people into thinking Obama was born in the USA, not Kenya or some such foolery.

Corgigal

(9,291 posts)
2. 2nd time you wrote this
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:41 PM
Dec 2017

You don't know what was mentioned on the emails, so no one knows what did or didn't do any good. The investigation decides that.

Someone seems upset and whinny throughout the news about it. They might know the reason.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. And you don't either. We both hope they say certain things, but these were after the election, so
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:46 PM
Dec 2017

I think people are making more of this than is really there. What we need is something in early 2016 that shows Trump and his goons working with Ruskies, anything less and Trump walks with the exception perhaps of obstructing justice. His idiot sons/daughter and SIL might bet burned for trying to make money off their positions, but that still doesn't bring Trump down, which is the prize.

Freethinker65

(10,009 posts)
6. For the GOP in Congress, Nope. For the American public, Yes.
Sat Dec 16, 2017, 10:49 PM
Dec 2017

It would be karmic if the tabloid and social media that he used so well during the campaign brings down Trump and his administration.

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