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Would firing Mueller be the "Reichstag" moment we have all feared? (Original Post) kairos12 Dec 2017 OP
It would need to be, it would be either fight on the streets or give up your rights. sunonmars Dec 2017 #1
No SCantiGOP Dec 2017 #2
That was my thought ClarendonDem Dec 2017 #3
Thanks. Burning down congress, blaming Democrats, Hortensis Dec 2017 #14
Or nuclear war with NK workinclasszero Dec 2017 #4
This is my biggest fear es466 Dec 2017 #5
Can't happen. People need to realize that the people of Hortensis Dec 2017 #15
I'm not fearing anything... brooklynite Dec 2017 #6
They do seem to be the most popular form of post here lately. onenote Dec 2017 #9
I'm thinking more along the lines of Bastille Day. nt SeattleVet Dec 2017 #7
no. onenote Dec 2017 #8
At the moment... sofa king Dec 2017 #10
Cheney is in Dubai? shanti Dec 2017 #12
Indivisible Oklahoma made a great post yesterday Runningdawg Dec 2017 #11
Why do you think Muelller will be fired? rockfordfile Dec 2017 #13
Because animals Runningdawg Dec 2017 #16

SCantiGOP

(13,930 posts)
2. No
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:38 PM
Dec 2017

Burning down Congress and blaming it on the Democrats would be a Reichstag moment.
Let's not get too carried away with the hyperbole.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
14. Thanks. Burning down congress, blaming Democrats,
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:03 PM
Dec 2017

and using that excuse to embark on mass arrests of Democrats, including all Democratic leaders.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
4. Or nuclear war with NK
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 03:57 PM
Dec 2017

Mustn't criticize the Dear Leader in time of war eh?

Trump and his party will suspend the constitution and bill of rights just for the duration, like Hitler and the Nazis did in Germany.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
15. Can't happen. People need to realize that the people of
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 06:14 PM
Dec 2017

Germany had lived under authoritarian kaisers and authoritarian church for centuries through WW1. For about 15 years, while their nation was desperately poor and broken they tried a democracy mostly imposed on them. In that same era, secular changes caused conservatives to fear their children, especially their daughters, and their nation were collapsing into a Gomorrah. Almost all Germans remembered the good old days under a relatively enlightened and progressive authoritarian kaiser when things were far better for them.

And many longed to return to them. Hitler promised a return to authoritarian security, to restore prosperity, wellbeing, morality with a three-legged program strikingly like what Ronald Reagan promised here -- plus some sinister promises to rescue the economy from the Jews. He was a powerfully confident "strong man" without the maniacal slathering shown in most films we see here. Conservatives bought it, and many on the far left, wooed by inserting "socialist" in the party name and making a few promises, bought it also.

But despite the similarities in the weaknesses of people, what they wanted to return to was enormously different from what we expect for ourselves.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
10. At the moment...
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 04:34 PM
Dec 2017

... I think a Reichstag fire is what they're going to need to get away with firing Mueller.

It looks like Mueller anticipated the Trump plan to fire him off if he got too close, and had a plan of his own.

If Dick Cheney suddenly leaves Dubai and shows up in DC, then we can start really fretting about a Reichstag moment.

Runningdawg

(4,536 posts)
11. Indivisible Oklahoma made a great post yesterday
Sun Dec 17, 2017, 05:40 PM
Dec 2017

In part it said:

If Mueller is fired:
Do not panic.
Let Trump panic.
It will be his end.

THIS 100%

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