When will the FBI, FCC, CIA or SOMEBODY go after FOX news?

[Kajun Gal]

They spread lies, hate and propaganda like the supposed "coup". Dumb Drumph listens and believes. And then we REALLY have a major problem. How is FOX news even allowed on cable networks, satellite networks, etc?

[rainin]

1. Until we defeat them, we will never heal. n/t

[Chasstev365]

2. I'm not a lawyer, but isn't Fox inciting insurrection?

That's illegal!

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. The crime of incitement no longer exists. There is a federal law called

solicitation to commit a crime of violence, 18 U.S. Code § 373. But it requires more than just a general broadcast that something should happen. You'd have to be guilty of soliciting a specific person to commit a specific crime. I think it's fair to call some of Fox's remarks something like stochastic terrorism, and could be potentially dangerous, but right now what they are saying is not illegal and is protected by the First Amendment.

But remember, their audience is gradually diminishing - the average age of a Fox viewer is something more than 65 and not getting younger.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

3. It's all protected by the First Amendment, as it should be.

The remedy for bad speech is not suppression of it; it's more speech. They can be sued for defamation - but so far they have managed not to cross that line, although they've come close. As far as I can tell they haven't actually committed a crime, so there's no basis for prosecuting them. We have to be very careful when we talk about suppressing the speech of those we hate - that can very easily be turned around the other way (and don't think Trump wouldn't put MSNBC or the New York Times or the Washington Post out of business if he could get away with it). And then we'd be damn sorry we ever thought of putting a news network out of business.

[Corvo Bianco]

4. Neva

Rome will burn because it's just so gursh durn hard to stand up to rich people.

[Voltaire2]

6. It would be A REALLY BAD IDEA for the FBI FCC or CIA to "go after" any news organization.

[world wide wally]

14. Fox is NOT a news organization

It is strictly entertainment. Kind of Nazi porn for the senile.

[Voltaire2]

16. Regardless of your opinion, it remains fully protected by the 1st amendment.

Do you really want the Trump administration deciding which news organizations should be allowed to exist?

[world wide wally]

21. Not Trump

But maybe someone with intelligence.

I know it sounds radical, but it also sounds dangerous by pushing people to violence based on lies. Hate speech is banned in a lot of free countries. In America, it's treated like the Second Amendment and neither one of them helps matters much.

[Codeine]

23. I'm very glad that your power extends

absolutely no further than your keyboard.

[world wide wally]

24. Limits on hate speech is a bad idea?

[Codeine]

25. Yes. A thousand times yes.

I can't even believe that's a fucking question on a site for Democrats.

[world wide wally]

36. England and Canada seem to be doing quite well with that law

[Codeine]

38. We have a different philosophy toward speech.

I prefer our free speech principles over their speech restrictions.

[tazkcmo]

29. Not opinion

Murdoch says it is an entertainment show.

[bdamomma]

31. Well tRump

is calling fact finding news as fake??? Fox is fueling the fire for tRump's base.

[Ccarmona]

7. Not Only Is that UN-Constitutional

The CIA has no domestic authority. It is strictly an International Agency.

[bathroommonkey76]

10. Mmmmhmmm

Keep telling yourself that. lol

[ClarendonDem]

11. The CIA has no authority to bring charges against a US news organization

Or investigate one. Whether it does is a different story.

[bathroommonkey76]

13. You said the "CIA has no domestic authority..."

And I said "Keep telling yourself that."

Go pick up Dark Alliance: The CIA, the Contras, and the Crack Cocaine Explosion by Gary Webb. After reading that book your view on the domestic power of the small acronym will change.

[ClarendonDem]

15. I didn't claim the CIA acts in ways it isn't authorized to

I simply said the CIA is not granted authority to investigate or charge any domestic news organization. That's true. I have not read Dark Alliance, but recently watched Kill the Messenger, which is based on the book. I get that the CIA may act illegally, but the CIA cannot investigate Fox, nor would we want it to do so.

And on edit, I didn't claim the CIA has no "domestic authority"--that was a different person.

[bathroommonkey76]

17. Your first post was vague

and it didn't mention anything you posted in your last two posts. Just sayin'.

[ClarendonDem]

18. The first post wasn't me

Just sayin'.

[bathroommonkey76]

19. Well, the first person didn't know what he/she was talking about

And I never claimed this agency had the authority to prosecute any news organization. lol JUST SAYIN!

[Codeine]

26. You're confusing "domestic authority"

with "domestic power." The tweakers down the street lack the Authority to take my car, but a screwdriver and a few minutes undisturbed will demonstrate that they have the Power to take it regardless.

[bathroommonkey76]

28. Not if its one of those cars that locks the morons inside the car

Now add some poisonous gas and we have the start of a new CBS drama.

[Codeine]

32. I'd watch that. nt

[bathroommonkey76]

37. But on a serious note

I believe "power" and "authority" could be interchangeable in this instance. The Special Forces have used the psychological " "hearts and minds" mantra campaign for years. And it's no secret they are an offshoot of the CIA.

[ileus]

8. Didn't we just buy Fox?

Once the deal is done, house will be cleaned.

Then we can concentrate on AM....our last enemy.

[Codeine]

27. The news and sports divisions

were not sold and remain part of Murdoch's media holdings.

[Turbineguy]

9. I think it would be better to boycott

sponsors. However, many also advertise elsewhere. Of course, if Fox fails to bring in business.... Using law enforcement to go after them only confirms their paranoid viewers' worst fears.

[ClarendonDem]

12. Spreading lie, hate and propaganda

Is largely protected by the 1st Amendment. I despise Fox, but would never want the US government to attempt to stifle a news organization simply because we disagree with that organization, even if they are lying. The right--and Donald Trump--believes that CNN is spreading lies, and we would not want the current administration to try and shut down CNN.

[Terry_M]

20. When we embrace government run censorship? o_0

I may strongly disagree with what they say but I am going to stand up for their right to say it and your right to call them whatever you want to call them for saying it...

[Codeine]

22. Skinner should require that prospective posters

demonstrate at least a minimum knowledge of the Constitution prior to being granted posting privileges.

[procon]

33. The basics, stuff like this, used to be taught in middle school civics class.

Maybe it's not today, but we also had two semesters of govt in high school that covered history, important events and people. We had a mock court, learned the voting process and even how to run for office. We discussed current events and how laws changed the country. I learned a lot and I'm still grateful my school had that course.

[democratisphere]

30. fox subversive authoritarian propoganda network

They will always have their brainwashed base. They are hopelessly devoted to a psychopath.

[Kajun Gal]

34. They should at least change their name to FOX Talk Show?

[Kajun Gal]

35. Y'all are right about the free speech amendment but

To lie and say one is "news"? I'm just a beginner here. Trying to listen and learn. But it seems to me that spreading real FAKE news and inciting a government coup should be wrong! The scary thing about it to me is that this dumba$$ Drumph truly believes them.