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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:43 PM Mar 2015

Lawyer Arguing Against Obamacare: Statute Written By 'White Women And Minorities'

Source: TPM

Michael Carvin, the attorney arguing on behalf of the plaintiffs in the King v. Burwell case, said this challenge is different because the argument against the law centers on a statute that was "written by white women and minorities."

Carvin's comments were published in a Wall Street Journal profile of him on Tuesday, a day before oral arguments began in the King v. Burwell lawsuit.

Carvin argued that the difference between this lawsuit and the one in 2012 is that unlike the 2012 challenge, the argument on Wednesday is on "a statute that was written three years ago, not by dead white men but by living white women and minorities."

"It hasn't had time to 'grow' or 'evolve,'" Carvin added, a jab that mocks terms liberals have used for constitutional doctrines that conservatives have argued aren't supported by the Constitution.

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Read more: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/michael-carvin-obamacare-statutes-white-women-minorities





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Lawyer Arguing Against Obamacare: Statute Written By 'White Women And Minorities' (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
He forgot "two jews and a cripple" n/t DefenseLawyer Mar 2015 #1
LOL! Coventina Mar 2015 #6
defenselawyer, you are my new hero :D roguevalley Mar 2015 #11
OMG STOP IT DEFENSELAWYER Skittles Mar 2015 #18
And three homosexuals. EEO Mar 2015 #22
Indeed! Justice Mar 2015 #35
That's not much of a legal argument. Buzz Clik Mar 2015 #2
we're only worth, er, like TWO THIRDS of what white men are!!! Skittles Mar 2015 #19
Thanks for the clarification. And her I was thinking it was a baseless and bogus argument! Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2015 #27
I'm sure Judge Scalia will support that position: freshwest Mar 2015 #33
And them homo-seckshuls too. leftieNanner Mar 2015 #3
And Muslins....the cotton fabric fascists. -nt Liberal Veteran Mar 2015 #8
wool you stop with the puns? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #15
Stop knit-picking n/t VWolf Mar 2015 #16
Just trying to needle somone. n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #21
That is how lawyers argue before the Supreme Courts nowadays Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #4
But the current majority ain't cheap erronis Mar 2015 #24
Oh, an argument Clarence Thomas can understand. mountain grammy Mar 2015 #5
Zing! peacebird Mar 2015 #34
Carvin, your clients have no standing to sue, since they have not shown that they were harmed by ACA muntrv Mar 2015 #7
I'd guess that's an excellent way to turn a couple of judges against his case muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #9
Carvin is a real piece of work n2doc Mar 2015 #10
At various points during his time at the podium, he interrupts questions by the Court’s three women dolphinsandtuna Mar 2015 #13
I wish they would have held him in contempt n2doc Mar 2015 #14
He didn't say that during the actual court arguments: he said it in an interview with the WSJ. nt Princess Turandot Mar 2015 #31
Can't post what kind of revenge I'd like to see. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #30
So im guessing fingrin Mar 2015 #12
Just checking in to make sure... americannightmare Mar 2015 #17
As I live and breathe asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #20
Unbelievably stupid. Almost impossible to believe anyone would say this seriously. Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #23
Nice teeth. erronis Mar 2015 #25
Sharks and Mac the Knife as well. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #28
That sounds like the majority of the country Sanity Claws Mar 2015 #26
"...in other words, people who don't count at all..." Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #29
If you have no real case... ck4829 Mar 2015 #32
An odd description of the Heritage Foundation n/t Ron Obvious Mar 2015 #36
 

Buzz Clik

(38,437 posts)
2. That's not much of a legal argument.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:49 PM
Mar 2015

He'll get cheers from the knuckledraggers in the gallery, but I doubt the judge will be impressed.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
33. I'm sure Judge Scalia will support that position:
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:00 PM
Mar 2015


Note the secret hand sign. The one the Reich wingers accuse Obama of using as a Muslin.

leftieNanner

(15,083 posts)
3. And them homo-seckshuls too.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:51 PM
Mar 2015

Do these people really exist??? And they are capable of actually getting up every morning? Wow...

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
4. That is how lawyers argue before the Supreme Courts nowadays
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 02:55 PM
Mar 2015

My, but the standards have fallen.

We shouldn't be surprised when the court majority is five cheap shysters.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
24. But the current majority ain't cheap
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:44 PM
Mar 2015

I'm sure they are well rewarded for their mental exertions. Here and now, but sure as hell not when viewed by history, their ancestors, and (god, I hope you exist) in heaven.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,308 posts)
9. I'd guess that's an excellent way to turn a couple of judges against his case
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:02 PM
Mar 2015

Roberts and Kennedy aren't going to like him more for disparaging a law from a 'bigoted humour' point of view. Even Alito might think twice about the 'minorities' remark. Only Scalia and Thomas are a guaranteed 'kill Obamacare' vote now, I think.

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
10. Carvin is a real piece of work
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:04 PM
Mar 2015
Michael Carvin, the attorney arguing against Obamacare in King v. Burwell, is a bear of a man. He gestures grandly as he practically yells his legal arguments towards the justices. At various points during his time at the podium, he interrupts questions by the Court’s three women — Justices Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Sonia Sotomayor, and Elena Kagan. After Wednesday’s argument, however, it appears unlikely that his bluster will convince a majority of the Court to support his position.

http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2015/03/04/3629647/obamacare-will-probably-survive-second-trip-supreme-court/
 

dolphinsandtuna

(231 posts)
13. At various points during his time at the podium, he interrupts questions by the Court’s three women
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:39 PM
Mar 2015

A little revenge is in order, ladies.

fingrin

(120 posts)
12. So im guessing
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 03:30 PM
Mar 2015

his argument is "white women and minorities" are not equal and hence have no standing to write laws.
I bet he years for the day when white woman are in the kitchen and minorities are cleaning the dishes again

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
23. Unbelievably stupid. Almost impossible to believe anyone would say this seriously.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:44 PM
Mar 2015

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Sanity Claws

(21,846 posts)
26. That sounds like the majority of the country
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:52 PM
Mar 2015

If we were a real democracy, that point would validate the law, not invalidate it.

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