Hillary Clinton Had Own Computer Server For Official Emails
Source: Associated Press
Mar 4, 2:35 PM EST
By JACK GILLUM and TED BRIDIS
Associated Press
WASHINGTON (AP) -- The email practices of Hillary Rodham Clinton, who used a private account exclusively for official business when she was secretary of state, grew more intriguing with the disclosure Wednesday that the computer server she used traced back to her family's New York home, according to Internet records reviewed by The Associated Press.
The unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official running her own email server would have given Clinton - who is expected to run for president in the 2016 campaign - significant control over limiting access to her message archives.
It also would complicate the State Department's legal responsibilities in finding and turning over official emails in response to any investigations, lawsuits or public records requests. The department would be the position of accepting Clinton's assurances she was surrendering everything required that was in her control.
The White House said it was Clinton's responsibility to make sure any emails about official business weren't deleted from her private server.
Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_CLINTON_EMAILS_SERVER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-04-14-35-45
msongs
(67,193 posts)RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Gee, lemme guess.
Also, the dateline for the article is Mar 4, 2:35 PM EST, which makes it a breaking story.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)And it's a wrong opinion.
totodeinhere
(13,036 posts)Android3.14
(5,402 posts)candelista
(1,986 posts)The news is that she had her own server. But then, I guess you can read.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)is at the very end.
"It doesn't matter if the server was in Foggy Bottom, Chappaqua, or Bora Bora," House Speaker John Boehner said Wednesday. "The Benghazi Select Committee needs to see all of these emails, because the American people deserve all of the facts."
The Benghazi psychos are behind this.
nichomachus
(12,754 posts)name calling instead of a reasoned response.
Why was she running a private ISP out of her house. Yesterday, the Hillary bunch was claiming that she was too technically incompetent to understand the government server. Now, we find out she has her own servers handling her email.
I'm trying to imagine the "poutrage" has we found out the Bush family was running its own ISP and running all Dubya's government email through it. Spittle would be flying in all directions while the Hillary crowd shrieked bloody murder.
totodeinhere
(13,036 posts)PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)but doing it right and keeping it secure is another thing. I hope she didn't do it herself, or trust it to someone who isn't extremely well versed in creating hardened mail services. Someone like her would be a huge target for many people. Although, I suspect she's smart enough to have got someone to do it right, and the real issue is the lack of oversight on the archiving.
whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)that has nothing to do with setting up an email server.
Setting up a reliable and secure email system to handle high volume US Government business takes experience and talent. Even those who consider themselves experts will tell you this is no small task to do correctly.
That's why commercial email services can charge a premium.
Just another arrogant move by the Clinton clan to evade public scrutiny.
Like the arrogant move of collecting funds from foreign donors while a state dept. official.
Jesus Christ. 4 years of this bullshit?
Ready my ass.
totodeinhere
(13,036 posts)There are ample tutorials on the Net that can help you get started if you are interested.
PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)Although, he right about the link. You mistakenly posted a link to directions on setting up a mail client to point toward an SMTP server. I'm sure you set up some SMTP, POP3/IMAP/ETC servers on your own before. There are plenty of guides to get you up and running. I'm sure you also came to appreciate the complexity that can be involved to get a full featured and secure mail solution up and running. For your own personal email, that's probably fine. I've hacked together stuff really quick before too, but it was only because it was used for mostly irrelevant and unimportant crap. However, for government communications, I'm not so sure about that. You'd probably want the services to be on hardened servers that live on a well protected and monitored network. I give Clinton enough credit to assume she had a professional do it, and that they setup something that provided some level of security, and that she wasn't running some freeware mail server that runs on Chelsea's old emachine running windows 98.
totodeinhere
(13,036 posts)But whether a pro set it up or perhaps a computer literate staff member did it we don't know at this point.
MyNameGoesHere
(7,638 posts)whatever that may be. I pointed out the repigs are the ones pushing this. You mad bro?
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Not an opinion piece.
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Royally.
This is going to stick for the the foreseeable future until she announces she is not running or until she loses the election. With this as an albatross around her neck, it seems unlikely she can pull off a successful campaign.
Let's wait for the dust to settle a bit, but it is almost time to start finding an alternate, and preferably someone who actually represents and practices Democratic values that we can rally around.
SoapBox
(18,791 posts)This email mess is going to give her a nonstop headache.
The Pukes and Baggers got handed their wet dream on a platter.
totodeinhere
(13,036 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)For a decade I administrated my own e-mail server, hosted my own domain name, and my own Web server. I had relatively huge Net exposure as I was very active in Internet activism. Hackers tried to hammer my servers regularly, but they were secure because keeping them secure requires a minimum of effort (unless one runs Microsoft or other proprietary servers).
A recent post here on DU from a DUer who is a State Department insider described the somewhat horrible tech situation in that department. E-Mail apparently was so unreliable that I do not blame Secy Clinton for finding a way around that horrendous bureaucracy. She was one of the more active in her position. She needed efficient communications, something her department apparently could not provide.
I don't blame her. And BTW, securing an E-Mail server is not difficult.
If I was not on an iPhone I would post the link to the previous post from the DUer who apparently works at Foggy Bottom.
RufusTFirefly
(8,812 posts)Didn't think so.
If this occurred during the Nixon administration, we might be tempted to call this a rogue operation.
But since it involves President Hillary, it's obviously just a sensible, pragmatic decision.
longship
(40,416 posts)And I have sympathy for your argument.
But after the recent revelations by a Foggy Bottom insider here on DU, I do not blame HRC for doing that. And as a long time Internet geek, I understand the issues she may have been trying to overcome.
The best thing about this is that we let it resolve itself. If you feel strongly that private e-mail should not be used, put forward a bill.
BTW, apparently the State department uses an out of date Microsoft Exchange server, probably the most insecure implementation on the planet. (Even if it was up to date.)
sadoldgirl
(3,431 posts)however, if there was even the smallest possibility of
her modifying or even erasing messages, then I for
one do not believe that the Repugs in Congress will
do so.
There is no doubt in my mind that the NYT published
this item just on the day that Bibi pulled his disgraceful
act with the intention to divert attention.
I may be wrong, but the MSM as well as Congressional
Repuglies will keep after this. If she would light a
cigarette, they would claim that she is burning down
the house.
So,yes, I worry about this story. It looks really bad.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)One scandal at the correct time & the entire government falls back into the GOP hands! Exec, Legislative & judiciary.
With the Clintons there is no telling what potential scandals Conservative operatives could be sitting on to unleash come October 2016.
longship
(40,416 posts)whereisjustice
(2,941 posts)Goddamn it if it isn't everyone with an Ubuntu ISO and a stack overflow handle isn't also an expert on secure networking and email system design.
"No Biggie"
LMFAO
Reminds me of the arrogant assholes who take classified shit home because, you know, they're important and work around the clock.
Or that arrogant mother fucker butcher of Iraq, Gen. Patreus.
PersonNumber503602
(1,134 posts)I agree that properly securing highly sensitive systems isn't something that's easy (I said so to replies above), but I don't get why you're being so aggressive with others. People skills, man.
Skittles
(152,964 posts)she can do nothing right
the hatred is aimed at her, not you
longship
(40,416 posts)But I find your post strangely aggressive.
And if one understands the protocols and the server software, it is possible to secure a server as best as it can be.
My best regards.
ripcord
(5,084 posts)Since she used her private email for official business it opens up all the emails she sent on that account to examination by the investigation the republicans are sure to initiate. I hope she can come through this, she might not be my first choice but she is probably the only democrat who can win in 2016.
quadrature
(2,049 posts)related Q.
how did she pay for this?
her foundation?
did she claim this as a business expense?
candelista
(1,986 posts)That's the elephant in the room. She set up the account the same day she was confirmed as Secy of State. There's only one reason why she would do this: to get around the law requiring a government account. Why would she want to do that? To prevent the government that she works for from being able to retrieve and scrutinize her work-related messages. So what did she have to hide?