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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:40 PM Mar 2015

Hillary Clinton Had Own Computer Server For Official Emails

Source: Associated Press

Mar 4, 2:35 PM EST
By JACK GILLUM and TED BRIDIS
Associated Press


WASHINGTON (AP) -- The email practices of Hillary Rodham Clinton, who used a private account exclusively for official business when she was secretary of state, grew more intriguing with the disclosure Wednesday that the computer server she used traced back to her family's New York home, according to Internet records reviewed by The Associated Press.

The unusual practice of a Cabinet-level official running her own email server would have given Clinton - who is expected to run for president in the 2016 campaign - significant control over limiting access to her message archives.

It also would complicate the State Department's legal responsibilities in finding and turning over official emails in response to any investigations, lawsuits or public records requests. The department would be the position of accepting Clinton's assurances she was surrendering everything required that was in her control.

The White House said it was Clinton's responsibility to make sure any emails about official business weren't deleted from her private server.

Read more: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEM_2016_CLINTON_EMAILS_SERVER?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-03-04-14-35-45

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Hillary Clinton Had Own Computer Server For Official Emails (Original Post) Purveyor Mar 2015 OP
this is an opinion piece, not LBN nt msongs Mar 2015 #1
No, it's not. Why in the world would you say that? RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #3
Your post is an opinion piece Android3.14 Mar 2015 #5
Is it OK to venture an opinion at DU? Isn't that what this is about? n/t totodeinhere Mar 2015 #12
Sure, but I draw the line when someone's "opinion" is just lies Android3.14 Mar 2015 #15
No, it's obviously news. candelista Mar 2015 #32
The real poutrage about all this MyNameGoesHere Mar 2015 #2
Typical of the Hillary crowd nichomachus Mar 2015 #6
Setting up an email server is very easy. totodeinhere Mar 2015 #13
Not anti-Hillary or pro-Hillary, but I will say setting up an email server may be easy PersonNumber503602 Mar 2015 #17
you have no idea what you are talking about and that link is bs whereisjustice Mar 2015 #21
Oh? I have been running my own server for some time now. totodeinhere Mar 2015 #25
I don't think he's denying that most people can setup a working email server PersonNumber503602 Mar 2015 #27
Oh I agree that Clinton probably didn't set it up personally. totodeinhere Mar 2015 #31
Typical of your crowd MyNameGoesHere Mar 2015 #20
This is a news report Android3.14 Mar 2015 #4
Man, I do believe Her Highness has effed up Android3.14 Mar 2015 #7
How fucking stupid could she and her staff be... SoapBox Mar 2015 #8
And the Hillary haters on the left as well. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2015 #14
Irrelevant. longship Mar 2015 #9
Were you a government official, accountable to the U.S. public? RufusTFirefly Mar 2015 #10
I fully understand your position. longship Mar 2015 #11
Clearly we have to let it resolve itself, sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #16
This is why Hillary is so very dangerous! SkyDaddy7 Mar 2015 #18
Well, let's hope it works out okay for her. nt longship Mar 2015 #19
LMAO at "securing an E-Mail server is not difficult" whereisjustice Mar 2015 #23
I understand your passion about information security, but why so harsh? PersonNumber503602 Mar 2015 #28
some "left" folk hate Hillary as much as repukes do Skittles Mar 2015 #29
Hmm! Well, I admit that the Secy of State needs better security. longship Mar 2015 #30
I think she may has screwed up and we don't ned that at this point ripcord Mar 2015 #22
who else would DARE do this? quadrature Mar 2015 #24
More importantly, WHY did she do it? candelista Mar 2015 #33
So do we. So what? 6000eliot Mar 2015 #26

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
3. No, it's not. Why in the world would you say that?
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:55 PM
Mar 2015

Gee, lemme guess.

Also, the dateline for the article is Mar 4, 2:35 PM EST, which makes it a breaking story.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
2. The real poutrage about all this
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 04:53 PM
Mar 2015

is at the very end.

"It doesn't matter if the server was in Foggy Bottom, Chappaqua, or Bora Bora," House Speaker John Boehner said Wednesday. "The Benghazi Select Committee needs to see all of these emails, because the American people deserve all of the facts."

The Benghazi psychos are behind this.

nichomachus

(12,754 posts)
6. Typical of the Hillary crowd
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:05 PM
Mar 2015

name calling instead of a reasoned response.

Why was she running a private ISP out of her house. Yesterday, the Hillary bunch was claiming that she was too technically incompetent to understand the government server. Now, we find out she has her own servers handling her email.

I'm trying to imagine the "poutrage" has we found out the Bush family was running its own ISP and running all Dubya's government email through it. Spittle would be flying in all directions while the Hillary crowd shrieked bloody murder.

totodeinhere

(13,036 posts)
13. Setting up an email server is very easy.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:42 PM
Mar 2015
http://www.serversmtp.com/en/smtp-configuration

To set up a mail client it's necessary to configure an SMTP server that will take care of the delivery of your emails. Luckily, the configuration of SMTP servers is generally very easy - you will simply have to open your email software and add the right SMTP parametres in the settings windows.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
17. Not anti-Hillary or pro-Hillary, but I will say setting up an email server may be easy
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:15 PM
Mar 2015

but doing it right and keeping it secure is another thing. I hope she didn't do it herself, or trust it to someone who isn't extremely well versed in creating hardened mail services. Someone like her would be a huge target for many people. Although, I suspect she's smart enough to have got someone to do it right, and the real issue is the lack of oversight on the archiving.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
21. you have no idea what you are talking about and that link is bs
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:40 PM
Mar 2015

that has nothing to do with setting up an email server.

Setting up a reliable and secure email system to handle high volume US Government business takes experience and talent. Even those who consider themselves experts will tell you this is no small task to do correctly.

That's why commercial email services can charge a premium.

Just another arrogant move by the Clinton clan to evade public scrutiny.

Like the arrogant move of collecting funds from foreign donors while a state dept. official.

Jesus Christ. 4 years of this bullshit?

Ready my ass.

totodeinhere

(13,036 posts)
25. Oh? I have been running my own server for some time now.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:45 AM
Mar 2015

There are ample tutorials on the Net that can help you get started if you are interested.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
27. I don't think he's denying that most people can setup a working email server
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:19 AM
Mar 2015

Although, he right about the link. You mistakenly posted a link to directions on setting up a mail client to point toward an SMTP server. I'm sure you set up some SMTP, POP3/IMAP/ETC servers on your own before. There are plenty of guides to get you up and running. I'm sure you also came to appreciate the complexity that can be involved to get a full featured and secure mail solution up and running. For your own personal email, that's probably fine. I've hacked together stuff really quick before too, but it was only because it was used for mostly irrelevant and unimportant crap. However, for government communications, I'm not so sure about that. You'd probably want the services to be on hardened servers that live on a well protected and monitored network. I give Clinton enough credit to assume she had a professional do it, and that they setup something that provided some level of security, and that she wasn't running some freeware mail server that runs on Chelsea's old emachine running windows 98.

totodeinhere

(13,036 posts)
31. Oh I agree that Clinton probably didn't set it up personally.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 01:57 PM
Mar 2015

But whether a pro set it up or perhaps a computer literate staff member did it we don't know at this point.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
20. Typical of your crowd
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:29 PM
Mar 2015

whatever that may be. I pointed out the repigs are the ones pushing this. You mad bro?

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
7. Man, I do believe Her Highness has effed up
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:06 PM
Mar 2015

Royally.

This is going to stick for the the foreseeable future until she announces she is not running or until she loses the election. With this as an albatross around her neck, it seems unlikely she can pull off a successful campaign.

Let's wait for the dust to settle a bit, but it is almost time to start finding an alternate, and preferably someone who actually represents and practices Democratic values that we can rally around.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
8. How fucking stupid could she and her staff be...
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:13 PM
Mar 2015

This email mess is going to give her a nonstop headache.

The Pukes and Baggers got handed their wet dream on a platter.

longship

(40,416 posts)
9. Irrelevant.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:22 PM
Mar 2015

For a decade I administrated my own e-mail server, hosted my own domain name, and my own Web server. I had relatively huge Net exposure as I was very active in Internet activism. Hackers tried to hammer my servers regularly, but they were secure because keeping them secure requires a minimum of effort (unless one runs Microsoft or other proprietary servers).

A recent post here on DU from a DUer who is a State Department insider described the somewhat horrible tech situation in that department. E-Mail apparently was so unreliable that I do not blame Secy Clinton for finding a way around that horrendous bureaucracy. She was one of the more active in her position. She needed efficient communications, something her department apparently could not provide.

I don't blame her. And BTW, securing an E-Mail server is not difficult.

If I was not on an iPhone I would post the link to the previous post from the DUer who apparently works at Foggy Bottom.

RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
10. Were you a government official, accountable to the U.S. public?
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:27 PM
Mar 2015

Didn't think so.

If this occurred during the Nixon administration, we might be tempted to call this a rogue operation.

But since it involves President Hillary, it's obviously just a sensible, pragmatic decision.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. I fully understand your position.
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 05:38 PM
Mar 2015

And I have sympathy for your argument.

But after the recent revelations by a Foggy Bottom insider here on DU, I do not blame HRC for doing that. And as a long time Internet geek, I understand the issues she may have been trying to overcome.

The best thing about this is that we let it resolve itself. If you feel strongly that private e-mail should not be used, put forward a bill.

BTW, apparently the State department uses an out of date Microsoft Exchange server, probably the most insecure implementation on the planet. (Even if it was up to date.)

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. Clearly we have to let it resolve itself,
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:00 PM
Mar 2015

however, if there was even the smallest possibility of
her modifying or even erasing messages, then I for
one do not believe that the Repugs in Congress will
do so.

There is no doubt in my mind that the NYT published
this item just on the day that Bibi pulled his disgraceful
act with the intention to divert attention.

I may be wrong, but the MSM as well as Congressional
Repuglies will keep after this. If she would light a
cigarette, they would claim that she is burning down
the house.

So,yes, I worry about this story. It looks really bad.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
18. This is why Hillary is so very dangerous!
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 06:39 PM
Mar 2015

One scandal at the correct time & the entire government falls back into the GOP hands! Exec, Legislative & judiciary.

With the Clintons there is no telling what potential scandals Conservative operatives could be sitting on to unleash come October 2016.

whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
23. LMAO at "securing an E-Mail server is not difficult"
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:51 PM
Mar 2015

Goddamn it if it isn't everyone with an Ubuntu ISO and a stack overflow handle isn't also an expert on secure networking and email system design.

"No Biggie"

LMFAO

Reminds me of the arrogant assholes who take classified shit home because, you know, they're important and work around the clock.

Or that arrogant mother fucker butcher of Iraq, Gen. Patreus.

PersonNumber503602

(1,134 posts)
28. I understand your passion about information security, but why so harsh?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 02:34 AM
Mar 2015

I agree that properly securing highly sensitive systems isn't something that's easy (I said so to replies above), but I don't get why you're being so aggressive with others. People skills, man.

Skittles

(152,964 posts)
29. some "left" folk hate Hillary as much as repukes do
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:13 AM
Mar 2015

she can do nothing right

the hatred is aimed at her, not you

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. Hmm! Well, I admit that the Secy of State needs better security.
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:16 AM
Mar 2015

But I find your post strangely aggressive.

And if one understands the protocols and the server software, it is possible to secure a server as best as it can be.

My best regards.

ripcord

(5,084 posts)
22. I think she may has screwed up and we don't ned that at this point
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:47 PM
Mar 2015

Since she used her private email for official business it opens up all the emails she sent on that account to examination by the investigation the republicans are sure to initiate. I hope she can come through this, she might not be my first choice but she is probably the only democrat who can win in 2016.

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
24. who else would DARE do this?
Wed Mar 4, 2015, 10:54 PM
Mar 2015

related Q.

how did she pay for this?
her foundation?
did she claim this as a business expense?

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
33. More importantly, WHY did she do it?
Thu Mar 5, 2015, 03:03 PM
Mar 2015

That's the elephant in the room. She set up the account the same day she was confirmed as Secy of State. There's only one reason why she would do this: to get around the law requiring a government account. Why would she want to do that? To prevent the government that she works for from being able to retrieve and scrutinize her work-related messages. So what did she have to hide?

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