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elleng

(130,865 posts)
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 05:52 PM Mar 2015

MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred Interested in Playing in Cuba.

Source: NYTimes/ap

JUPITER, Fla. — Rob Manfred says Major League Baseball is talking with the U.S. government about playing exhibition games in Cuba.

President Barack Obama said in December the U.S. was re-establishing relations with the communist island nation.

"I can envision a situation, assuming that it is consistent with the government's policy on Cuba, where we could have ongoing exhibition game activity in Cuba," Manfred, the new baseball commissioner, said Tuesday. He did not specify a timeframe.

There were 25 Cuban-born players in the major leagues last season, including stars Yasiel Puig, Yeonis Cespedes and Jose Abreu, up from eight in 2007 and the most since 1970, according to STATS.

"Cuba is a great market for us two ways," Manfred said. "It's obviously a great talent market. We've seen enough of that during the offseason. It's a country where baseball is embedded in the culture. and we like countries where baseball is embedded in the culture."

Major league teams visited Cuba before Fidel Castro's revolution in 1959, and the Baltimore Orioles played Cuba's national team in Havana in March 1999. Cuba's proximity, just 90 miles from Florida, makes quick trips possible.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/03/10/us/ap-bbo-manfred-cuba.html?module=WatchingPortal&region=c-column-middle-span-region&pgType=Homepage&action=click&mediaId=none&state=standard&contentPlacement=2&version=internal&contentCollection=www.nytimes.com&contentId=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nytimes.com%2Faponline%2F2015%2F03%2F10%2Fus%2Fap-bbo-manfred-cuba.html&eventName=Watching-article-click&_r=0

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MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred Interested in Playing in Cuba. (Original Post) elleng Mar 2015 OP
We need a real World Series with every country that upaloopa Mar 2015 #1
There is the world baseball classic every 4 years Travis_0004 Mar 2015 #4
It's not integrated with baseball season CreekDog Mar 2015 #6
It overlaps with spring training. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #10
Bring back the Havana Sugar Kings! KamaAina Mar 2015 #2
Why not? JeffHead Mar 2015 #3
The mutual love of baseball tabasco Mar 2015 #5
And what happens if a Cuban defector like Aroldis Chapman plays an MLB game in Cuba? Reter Mar 2015 #7
Fuck that. Go all the way. jmowreader Mar 2015 #8
But is there money to be made? LeftyMom Mar 2015 #11
The Cuban "exiles" pitched fits when Baltimore invited Cuba for a game in 1999. Judi Lynn Mar 2015 #9
They could call the Havana team the Castros. The could play in the Castrodome. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2015 #12
 

Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
4. There is the world baseball classic every 4 years
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:16 PM
Mar 2015

Its kind of like the fifa cup, but a lot of major league players choose not to participate.

CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
6. It's not integrated with baseball season
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 07:17 PM
Mar 2015

For it to be a world series, it needs to be structured so that most of the players and teams can compete.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
10. It overlaps with spring training.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:27 PM
Mar 2015

And considering the risk of injury (and baseball's nearly ironclad player contracts,) I'm amazed teams let players leave camp to go risk their bodies on national teams. .

That said, I went to the final last time and it was great fun. I just wish they'd find a way to play it in the winter or something, to avoid the conflict with the MLB season.

JeffHead

(1,186 posts)
3. Why not?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 06:03 PM
Mar 2015

We're taking all of their top talent. Why not let the Cuban people see them play in person once in a while. Plus it would be a good gesture on our part foreign policy wise. Something that is in short supply these days.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
7. And what happens if a Cuban defector like Aroldis Chapman plays an MLB game in Cuba?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 09:39 PM
Mar 2015

Can they arrest him? If yes, can (or should I say, would) the US get involved?

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
8. Fuck that. Go all the way.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:27 PM
Mar 2015

Build a stadium in Havana and one in either Charlotte or Portland, and establish a franchise in Cuba. You KNOW there are enough people in Cuba who have the talent to make a MLB roster - last season, 25 Cubans already had - and the customer base for quality baseball in Cuba is there. There have already been non-US-based baseball teams (one is still in Canada, and the other is doing well in DC), Cuba isn't far enough from the US to make getting there a huge hardship...

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
11. But is there money to be made?
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 11:35 PM
Mar 2015

I can't imagine ticket prices, merch etc could sell for even a fraction of what even badly supported US teams are getting. And since the MLB has revenue sharing to maintain some level of economic parity I can't imagine there's any interest among the owners in taking on a new team that would join the Oaklands and Tampas of the league on the perpetual dole.

Judi Lynn

(160,524 posts)
9. The Cuban "exiles" pitched fits when Baltimore invited Cuba for a game in 1999.
Tue Mar 10, 2015, 10:47 PM
Mar 2015

From an article published at that time:


Cuba Exiles Enraged By Baseball Diplomacy
4.18 p.m. ET (2119 GMT) March 8, 1999
MIAMI - U.S. baseball team the Baltimore Orioles will play a ground-breaking game against Cuba's national team in Havana this month but many Miami-based exiles Monday denounced ''baseball diplomacy'', fearing Cuban leader Fidel Castro would be the big winner.

The game, set for March 28, will mark the first time a Major League Baseball team has played in Cuba since Castro's 1959 revolution.

It is one of several moves to boost contacts between the two estranged countries, although a recent crackdown on dissidents in the Communist-ruled island has soured the mood.

"The CANF believes that the idea of doing a baseball game at this point in time is not only insensitive, but patently offensive, " said Mariela Ferretti of the Cuban American National Foundation, the main anti-Castro exile group.

Before the game was confirmed Sunday, exiles protested outside the Fort Lauderdale Stadium where the Orioles played an exhibition game against the Florida Marlins. They brandished signs saying: "Freedom is the only game Cuba needs'' and ''Orioles don't play ball with tyrants'' as fans streamed in.

The agreement was reached by Major League Baseball, the Orioles and the Players Association for the Cuban Institute of Sports and the Cuban national team. It calls for a second game to be played in Baltimore on a date to be determined.

Plans for the games, proposed as part of an alteration of the long-standing U.S. embargo of Cuba, had been stalled over the question of what to do with any profits that might come. Washington wanted any proceeds benefit the Cuban people, not the government. U.S. officials suggested they be distributed by a group such as the church aid agency Caritas. Cuba proposed any profits go to its efforts to help victims of Hurricane Mitch, which ravaged Central America in 1998.

Rene Guim, spokesman for Joe Cubas, an agent for several U.S.-based Cuban baseball players, told Reuters: "I think it is disgusting that a team from the United States major league is going to go down and play the Cuban national team in a country where human rights are not ever respected.''

More:
http://www.christusrex.org/www2/fcf/exilesenraged.html

It's important to mention Joe Cubas was later sued by Cuban baseball players in the US for cheating them wildly, screwing them all out of outrageous blobs of money, and Cubas was banished from associating himself with baseball forever. He really worked these players over. That's why, it must be assumed, he didn't want other agents getting the same advantage of abusing their ignorance of US American ways, and their trust in would-be agents. Last I heard, he's associated with real estate in Florida, now.

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Cuba, Orioles Take The Field In Game Filled With Intrigue

May 3, 1999|By WILLIAM E. GIBSON and RAFAEL LORENTE Washington Bureau and Staff Writer Dana Calvo contributed to this report.


BALTIMORE — A packed stadium, a national television audience, the possibility of defections and plenty of protests will give tonight's exhibition game between the Baltimore Orioles and a Cuban national team political intrigue to go with some potentially exciting baseball.

Will the stands erupt with demonstrations? Will Cuba send its best players and risk their defection?Will Cuban-American pilots risk arrest by dropping leaflets over the stadium?

What kind of secret game plan has Cuban leader Fidel Castro been hatching while meeting with team members at closed practice sessions in Havana?

All these questions will be answered when the highly paid Orioles and the Cubans take the field tonight.

Far less clear will be the game's lasting impact, if any, on American public opinion and U.S.-Cuba relations.

Unlike the ``ping-pong diplomacy'' matches that helped open communist China to trade and commerce in the 1970s, this baseball series appears headed for little more than a strained form of people-to-people contact and the reaffirmation of a mutual love for bisbol.

More:
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1999-05-03/news/9905030121_1_cuba-people-to-people-contact-people-to-people-exchanges
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