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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:42 AM Mar 2015

Vatican backs use of military force against ISIS

Source: AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE

The Vatican’s ambassador to the United Nations has endorsed military action against the Islamic State group in Iraq and Syria — an unusual move because the Vatican traditionally has opposed force in the region.

In an interview with the US Catholic website Crux, Archbishop Silvano Tomasi said IS fighters were committing atrocities on a huge scale and the world needed to intervene.

“We have to stop this kind of genocide,” the Italian archbishop told Crux. “Otherwise we’ll be crying out in the future about why we didn’t do something, why we allowed such a terrible tragedy to happen.” Tomasi said a coordinated and “well-thought-out coalition” was needed to do everything possible to achieve a political settlement without violence.

“But if that’s not possible, then the use of force will be necessary,” he added.

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Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/vatican-backs-use-of-military-force-against-isis/

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Vatican backs use of military force against ISIS (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2015 OP
Who is "we"? Are the Cardinals going to suit up? Looks like all the big money is for war. djean111 Mar 2015 #1
"the Muslim states of the Middle East", not just western nations, and under the UN muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #5
It's more than reasonable; it's the only realistic solution to this psychopathic barbarism (n/t) William Seger Mar 2015 #9
Normally, the Vatican is biased towards peace meow2u3 Mar 2015 #18
He probably means Christians in general. nt cstanleytech Mar 2015 #14
It ain't the crusades without the Vatican. n/t CincyDem Mar 2015 #2
This is kind of exactly what ISIS predicted bigworld Mar 2015 #3
Another dot on the map with plans for our military. oldandhappy Mar 2015 #4
Crusades! candelista Mar 2015 #6
Does the Vatican have a military to send? Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #7
Who would Jesus drone? Gregorian Mar 2015 #8
That would make an awesome bumper sticker! AngryDem001 Mar 2015 #11
Jesus would just let them behead him, of course he would then rise up cstanleytech Mar 2015 #15
Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #10
You know someone is really, really evil Nye Bevan Mar 2015 #12
agreed samsingh Mar 2015 #19
Not sure if the Pope wants to promote the Crusades 2.0 LiberalLovinLug Mar 2015 #13
I would love to see those swiss guards sadoldgirl Mar 2015 #16
Swiss Guards are Swiss Citizens, but not representing the Swiss Government brooklynite Mar 2015 #21
Visualize the pope mobile retrofitted with a .50 cal. n/t Alkene Mar 2015 #17
they are seeing the evil isis is inflicting samsingh Mar 2015 #20

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
5. "the Muslim states of the Middle East", not just western nations, and under the UN
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:14 AM
Mar 2015
Tomasi said that any anti-ISIS coalition has to include the Muslim states of the Middle East, and can’t simply be a “Western approach.” He also said it should unfold under the aegis of the United Nations.
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Beyond that, Tomasi said, the crisis requires “more coordinated protection, including the use of force to stop the hands of an aggressor.”

“It will be up the United Nations and its member states, especially the Security Council, to determine the exact form of intervention necessary,” he said, “but some responsibility (to act) is clear.”
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To be effective, Tomasi said, an anti-ISIS coalition must include “the countries most directly involved in the Middle East,” meaning the Islamic states of the region.

http://www.cruxnow.com/church/2015/03/13/vatican-backs-military-force-to-stop-isis-genocide/

This sounds reasonable to me.

meow2u3

(24,759 posts)
18. Normally, the Vatican is biased towards peace
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 08:34 AM
Mar 2015

But this batch of barbarians are so savage that they won't stop their murderous rampages unless someone else stops them.

You can't reason with evil like ISIS; all they understand and respect is force. Just ask the Kurds, who kicked their asses back into Syria. The only answer is the last resort: military force, which is the only way to repel these monsters.

bigworld

(1,807 posts)
3. This is kind of exactly what ISIS predicted
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:03 AM
Mar 2015

according to the massive Atlantic article from a month ago.

oldandhappy

(6,719 posts)
4. Another dot on the map with plans for our military.
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:09 AM
Mar 2015

Wonder what those fat bishops and cardinals will look like in military uniform!!

 

candelista

(1,986 posts)
6. Crusades!
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:25 AM
Mar 2015

The clock is turning back 1000 years to the struggles between Christendom and Islam. Isn't that special?

cstanleytech

(26,239 posts)
15. Jesus would just let them behead him, of course he would then rise up
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 10:28 PM
Mar 2015

so I am not sure if thats much help to anyone else who is beheaded.

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
12. You know someone is really, really evil
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 05:11 PM
Mar 2015

when even Pope Francis, the earthly representative of the Prince of Peace, wants to bomb the ever-loving shit out of them.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
16. I would love to see those swiss guards
Sun Mar 15, 2015, 11:10 PM
Mar 2015

in a fight with ISIS.
I wonder though how that would go along
with the famous swiss neutrality.

brooklynite

(94,361 posts)
21. Swiss Guards are Swiss Citizens, but not representing the Swiss Government
Mon Mar 16, 2015, 12:18 PM
Mar 2015

They are essentially mercenaries.

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