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Report1212

(661 posts)
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 01:59 PM Mar 2015

McCain Suggests Israel "Go Rogue," Blow Up Iran Negotiations By Starting War

Source: Alternet

But this past week Senator John McCain (R-AZ) ratcheted up this sabotage to a new level. During a floor speech he gave on March 24th, the senator suggested that Israel “go rogue” and that if they don't they may not survive the next 22 months of the Obama presidency:

McCAIN: The Israelis will need to chart their own path of resistance. On the Iranian nuclear deal, they may have to go rogue. Let's hope their warnings have not been mere bluffs. Israel survived its first 19 years without meaningful U.S. patronage. For now, all it has to do is get through the next 22, admittedly long, months.


Read more: http://www.alternet.org/mccain-suggests-israel-go-rogue-blow-iran-negotiations-starting-war#.VRmKvrJ



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McCain Suggests Israel "Go Rogue," Blow Up Iran Negotiations By Starting War (Original Post) Report1212 Mar 2015 OP
None Dare Call It Treason villager Mar 2015 #1
+1000 Baitball Blogger Mar 2015 #6
Absolutely. SoapBox Mar 2015 #13
Treason by law is strictly defined and this doesn't meet the conditions Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #28
For those who aren't familiar with the Logan Act: Larry Engels Mar 2015 #45
Yep. Might as well lose this one too: DeSwiss Mar 2015 #46
Why doesn't he volunteer to go attend the front lines? L0oniX Mar 2015 #2
He was already there Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #29
Way past time for Gramps to pack it in. Hoppy Mar 2015 #3
It is way past time to bring old fool up on charges. brush Mar 2015 #4
Words like that should make one feel all Mavericky. gordianot Mar 2015 #5
Why isn't this a headline on every paper? McCain has been wrong on everyone of his bullshit still_one Mar 2015 #7
Republicans can never get enough death. n/t Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #8
If Israel needs a rogue, I'm happy to send em Sarah Palin Dems to Win Mar 2015 #9
After his "Bomb Bomb Iran", it is shameful for him to even pop off like this. To boot, zonkers Mar 2015 #10
Did he sing his little song too? Scairp Mar 2015 #35
He is nuts. I have been at DU for 15 years. I cannot believe I still have to read about him. zonkers Mar 2015 #37
Lol Scairp Mar 2015 #40
Israel has nukes? Politicalboi Mar 2015 #11
It’s Official: The Pentagon Finally Admitted That Israel Has Nuclear Weapons, Too jakeXT Mar 2015 #21
Israel has weapons of mass destruction. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #34
Remember John McCain during his Presidential run. BOMB, BOMB, BOMB. rladdi Mar 2015 #12
The scary issue is that if Republicans win the White Hose we will be in a war within a few weeks. rladdi Mar 2015 #14
Oh, jeeez, not him again... Surya Gayatri Mar 2015 #15
Can ExxonMobil market radioactive oil? Jack Rabbit Mar 2015 #16
From the person who tried to sell us on only one "wacko bird". n/t jtuck004 Mar 2015 #17
Appeal to Turbineguy Mar 2015 #18
how is it humanly possible olddots Mar 2015 #19
Only 1 good answer: $$$$$$$$$$ Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #32
He's at it again. Schmice2 Mar 2015 #20
McCain: "I'm ashamed of my country" .... "Obama Didn’t Want to ‘Arm ISIS’" jakeXT Mar 2015 #22
GFY, McWarPig! MoreGOPoop Mar 2015 #23
Is it even possible to go rogue if someone tells you to go rogue? tridim Mar 2015 #24
"Go Rogue?" Is he channeling his running mate? KansDem Mar 2015 #25
She's so proud of it she named her book after it! Elmer S. E. Dump Mar 2015 #36
All mavericky an shit ...on Iran. L0oniX Mar 2015 #41
Who's he going to bomb next? Hollywood? Spitfire of ATJ Mar 2015 #26
Ah, yes, so speaks the "moderate, reasonable" GOP. They're all fuckin' valerief Mar 2015 #27
Yep....the media trots this guy out as a moderate Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #48
for John, war is only okay if it is his idea. olddad56 Mar 2015 #30
More Treason from Senator McSame. MarianJack Mar 2015 #31
Because mccain said so?????? asiliveandbreathe Mar 2015 #33
Treason, Sedition penndragon69 Mar 2015 #38
Retire already, old man. blkmusclmachine Mar 2015 #39
Does his expert foriegn affair adviser concur? Geronimoe Mar 2015 #42
It should be okay to go "rogue" and shove a foot up McCain's arse laserhaas Mar 2015 #43
How generous of him, and of others question everything Mar 2015 #44
I really think he has fucking lost his mind. Marrah_G Mar 2015 #47
 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
28. Treason by law is strictly defined and this doesn't meet the conditions
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:35 PM
Mar 2015

but I'll be damned if this isn't the closest you could possibly get to it without going over

I'm no fan of the Logan Act either, but if they're not going to enforce it after that statement, they may as well take it off the books.

 

Larry Engels

(387 posts)
45. For those who aren't familiar with the Logan Act:
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 08:30 PM
Mar 2015

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953, enacted January 30, 1799 (1799-01-30)) is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments having a dispute with the U.S.

https://www.google.com/search?q=Logan+Act

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
29. He was already there
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:37 PM
Mar 2015

How do you think all the trouble gets started in the first place? McCain visits, then all hell breaks loose 6-12 months later, like clockwork.

brush

(53,771 posts)
4. It is way past time to bring old fool up on charges.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:06 PM
Mar 2015

Not sure what the term is for what McGrumpy is calling for — treason, sedition. just plain sabotage of his own country's negotiations — but there certainly should be consequences for this.

I'm thinking he's approaching dementia because just a couple of weeks ago he admitted that the Cotton letter to Iran could have been handled differently now he's advocating Israel to "go rogue". Way beyond bizarre.

Does he remember from week to week what his previous positions were?

still_one

(92,174 posts)
7. Why isn't this a headline on every paper? McCain has been wrong on everyone of his bullshit
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:14 PM
Mar 2015

suggestions.

Yeah, the mccain/palin ticket were a perfect choice for the republicans. It represents the party of bat shit crazy

 

Dems to Win

(2,161 posts)
9. If Israel needs a rogue, I'm happy to send em Sarah Palin
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:16 PM
Mar 2015

Really can't believe McCain used that phrase.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
10. After his "Bomb Bomb Iran", it is shameful for him to even pop off like this. To boot,
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:18 PM
Mar 2015

he uses a "Palinism" (rogue) to make his point. What a sad loser. Thank God he never became President. Damn, he came pretty close.

 

zonkers

(5,865 posts)
37. He is nuts. I have been at DU for 15 years. I cannot believe I still have to read about him.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:10 PM
Mar 2015

What a waste of my life. The good ones die in suspicious plane crashes. The psychotic pricks live forever. Life is a bitch.

 

Politicalboi

(15,189 posts)
11. Israel has nukes?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:19 PM
Mar 2015

Shhhhhhh!!! Grandpa, Bibi doesn't want the world to know he has nukes. That way if he lobes one, he can say the US did it.

jakeXT

(10,575 posts)
21. It’s Official: The Pentagon Finally Admitted That Israel Has Nuclear Weapons, Too
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:36 PM
Mar 2015

While the Washington press corps obsessed over Hillary Clinton’s e-mails at the State Department, reporters were missing a far more important story about government secrets. After five decades of pretending otherwise, the Pentagon has reluctantly confirmed that Israel does indeed possess nuclear bombs, as well as awesome weapons technology similar to America’s.

Early last month the Department of Defense released a secret report done in 1987 by the Pentagon-funded Institute for Defense Analysis that essentially confirms the existence of Israel’s nukes. DOD was responding to a Freedom of Information lawsuit filed by Grant Smith, an investigative reporter and author who heads the Institute for Research: Middle East Policy. Smith said he thinks this is the first time the US government has ever provided official recognition of the long-standing reality.

It’s not exactly news. Policy elites and every president from LBJ to Obama have known that Israel has the bomb. But American authorities have cooperated in the secrecy and prohibited federal employees from sharing the truth with the people. When the White House reporter Helen Thomas asked the question of Barack Obama back in 2009, the president ducked. “With respect to nuclear weapons, you know, I don’t want to speculate,” Obama said. That was an awkward fib. Obama certainly knows better, and so do nearly two-thirds of the American people, according to opinion polls.

In my previous blog, “What about Israel’s Nuclear Bomb?” I observed that the news media focused solely on Iran’s nuclear ambitions but generally failed to note that Israel already had nukes. That produced a tip about the Pentagon release in early February.

http://www.thenation.com/blog/202129/its-official-pentagon-finally-admitted-israel-has-nuclear-weapons-too#

http://irmep.org/cfp/DoD/071987_CTAIIANN.pdf

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
34. Israel has weapons of mass destruction.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:52 PM
Mar 2015

Netanyahu is a weapon of mass destruction.

Hey, if the shoe fits, and all that.

rladdi

(581 posts)
12. Remember John McCain during his Presidential run. BOMB, BOMB, BOMB.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:21 PM
Mar 2015

The Republicans will not be happy until we are in a world war. That is what the Republicans are going for. We think ISIS is bad. It is the Republicans that are the serious threat to this nation and the world. They supported ex Pres G. Bush and his 2 wars. They are not happy that Pres Obama is trying to halt the fighting, but USA war against Iraq open up a wasp nest in the Mid East thanks to Bush and Cheney. It is not going to be resolve well.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
16. Can ExxonMobil market radioactive oil?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:24 PM
Mar 2015

I'll bet they would, so let me rephrase that.

Would ExxonMobil market radioactive oil if it were an immediate menace to public health?

 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
19. how is it humanly possible
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 02:34 PM
Mar 2015

for this man to put his head so far up his wrinkly ass that he can't see day light ?????????????

 

Elmer S. E. Dump

(5,751 posts)
36. She's so proud of it she named her book after it!
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 04:02 PM
Mar 2015

From the Urban Dictionary:

Going rogue

A euphemism for unprotected anal sex.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
48. Yep....the media trots this guy out as a moderate
Tue Mar 31, 2015, 01:26 AM
Mar 2015

He wants to bomb the shit out of every country in the Middle East.

This guy is no moderate.

olddad56

(5,732 posts)
30. for John, war is only okay if it is his idea.
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:39 PM
Mar 2015

This fucker had a low IQ in his 20s, it hasn't improved with age.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
33. Because mccain said so??????
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 03:45 PM
Mar 2015

"Israel survived its first 19 years without meaningful U.S. patronage".

U.S. Financial Aid To Israel: Figures, Facts, and Impact

Summary

Benefits to Israel of U.S. Aid
Since 1949 (As of November 1, 1997)

Foreign Aid Grants and Loans
$74,157,600,000

Other U.S. Aid (12.2% of Foreign Aid)
$9,047,227,200

Interest to Israel from Advanced Payments
$1,650,000,000

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

Total Benefits per Israeli
$14,630

Cost to U.S. Taxpayers of U.S.
Aid to Israel

Grand Total
$84,854,827,200

That is thru 1997 - approx. $3B each year if not more, for another 18 years....John - your time is up in the senate..move along.....

 

Geronimoe

(1,539 posts)
42. Does his expert foriegn affair adviser concur?
Mon Mar 30, 2015, 07:28 PM
Mar 2015

Has McCain cleared this with Joe the unlicensed plumber?

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