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newthinking

(3,982 posts)
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 04:29 AM Apr 2015

'Sub' outside Stockholm was civilian boat

Source: The Local


'Sub' outside Stockholm was civilian boat

Published: 13 Apr 2015 07:43 GMT+02:00


Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad at a press conference after Sweden's October submarine hunt. Photo: Claudio Bresciani/TT

A suspected submarine spotted in the Stockholm archipelago a week after Sweden's extensive hunt for Russian underwater vessels outside the capital last autumn was only a civilian boat, Sweden's Armed Forces have now said.

On October 31st, 2015, retired naval officer Sven Olof Kviman snapped a picture of what looked like a 20-30 metre long, black submarine in waters just outside Lidingö in Stockholm. The incident has remained unconfirmed, but has been classed by the military as a “potential” submarine.

But Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad has now told Swedish newspapers that the Armed Forces reported to the Swedish government last Wednesday that the suspected underwater vessel was in fact only a civilian “working boat”.

Read more: http://www.thelocal.se/20150413/suspected-sub-in-swedish-waters-was-working-boat



Sweden confirms mystery ‘Russian sub’…was in fact a workboat
Published time: April 13, 2015


ARCHIVE PHOTO: Swedish corvette HMS Visby patrols the Stockholm Archipelago October 19 2014, searching for what the military says is a foreign threat in the waters (Reuters / Marko Savala)

The unknown foreign vessel the Swedish Navy searched for near Stockholm last autumn was actually a “workboat,” a senior navy official says. Local media had alleged a hunt was on to try and find a Russian submarine, which was believed to be in the area.

Swedish Rear Admiral Anders Grenstad told the Swedish TT news agency on Saturday that what was thought to be a vessel or a foreign submarine was actually just a “workboat.”

READ MORE: Swedish military wants $700mn to hunt subs after autumn ‘chase’

The Swedish Navy changed the wording from “probable submarine” to “non-submarine” when referring to the reconnaissance mission connected to the unidentified vessel spotted in the Stockholm archipelago.

http://rt.com/news/249109-sweden-submarine-hunt-workboat/

The massive hunt was used by the Swedish Defense Ministry to justify a six billion kronor ($696 million) hike in defense spending between 2016 and 2020.
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Ford_Prefect

(7,872 posts)
1. Sighted Nothing, Sank Same...
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 05:44 AM
Apr 2015

What's good policy for the NSA seems to be good for the Swedish Defense Ministry, too.

The massive hunt was used by the Swedish Defense Ministry to justify a six billion kronor ($696 million) hike in defense spending between 2016 and 2020.

melm00se

(4,986 posts)
4. The Russians
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 12:19 PM
Apr 2015

don't have the best record in Scandinavia (11 wars with the Swedes since at least the 14th century and 4 wars with Finland in the 20th century alone) so a little paranoia on Sweden, Finland and Norway is warranted.

Brother Buzz

(36,385 posts)
8. It was filmed in Northern California
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 03:26 PM
Apr 2015

Specifically, Fort Bragg and Mendocino, but the story took place in a New England community, and because the coastlines were reversed, they had to film the evening scenes in the morning, and the morning shots in the evening. Some useless information one never forgets.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
11. Yup, the Norse were very fond of going in that direction too.
Tue Apr 14, 2015, 05:06 AM
Apr 2015

The Scandinavian's conversion to the merits of non-violence was quite recent. I am willing to give them a lot of credit for how they do things now, as long as they don't get snotty about it. My wife is of Ukrainian Jewish extraction, and I'm of Scots blood, and my kid has red hair, which is recessive.

You see where I am going with this?

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
6. why does self-proclaimed "reality" keep siding with Putin?!?!
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 02:11 PM
Apr 2015

I think we should ignore reality and punish Russia for what it hasn't done! that way it won't do anything!

petronius

(26,598 posts)
10. That's got to be about the least convincing justification for a huge spending increase
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 11:11 PM
Apr 2015

I've ever heard; the Mil-Ind Complex isn't even trying anymore...

"So, yeah, it was just some dudes in a boat. Not a sub or anything, but we still couldn't find it. Anyway, can we have (another) giant sack of money? TIA!"

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