Outrage as Egypt plans 'farewell intercourse law' so husbands can have sex with DEAD wives up to six

[rayofreason]

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Source: Daily Mail

Egyptian husbands will soon be legally allowed to have sex with their dead wives - for up to six hours after their death.

The controversial new law is part of a raft of measures being introduced by the Islamist-dominated parliament.

It will also see the minimum age of marriage lowered to 14 and the ridding of women's rights of getting education and employment.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Outrage-Egypt-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-dead-wives-hours-AFTER-death.html#ixzz1tByGWF58

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2135434/Outrage-Egypt-plans-farewell-intercourse-law-husbands-sex-dead-wives-hours-AFTER-death.html

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You can't make this stuff up. The link to Al Arabiya seems to indicate that this is real.

http://english.alarabiya.net/articles/2012/04/25/210198.html

[sakabatou]

1. ...

[Ecumenist]

2. WTF?? OMG! What the hell is going on in Egypt? NECROPHILIA IS BEING LEGALISED???!!!

HOW ISLAMIC IS THAT? NEVER MIND, let me tell you...IT ISN'T!!!! What kind of undercover freaks are making laws there?

[roguevalley]

24. this isn't about religion or love. this is about desecration and

power. this is about perverts using ideals, religion and morals to implement something that they like. This has nothing to do with anything but someone's perversion.

[Scairp]

52. This isn't real

Islam would never endorse necrophilia. A rumour to make someone's head explode. I think it must have worked.

[2on2u]

3. Well.... I guess if they were really deeply in love.....

NOT. This is the most WTFecked thing I have read in the last ten minutes.

[TheWraith]

4. Yeah, I'm going to call bullshit on this. It's the Daily Mail for fuck's sake. nt

[rayofreason]

7. That is what I thought at first...

...but I followed the Al Arabiya link and it checks out.

Like I wrote, some stuff you just can't make up. Like "Foreskin Man", which I though was fake as well, until it checked out.

www.foreskinman.com/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-derrick/foreskin-man-comicbook-at_b_871262.html

[muriel_volestrangler]

15. It does all depend on the one columnist, if you check all it says

"According to Egyptian columnist Amro Abdul Samea in al-Ahram, Talawi’s message included..."

The TV anchor then "referred to Abdul Samea’s article in his daily show" and asked "is there really a draft law in this regard? Are there people thinking in this manner?", which does imply that they haven't got another source for this yet.

The Moroccan cleric made the claim about sex after death last year. But it seems to be Abdul Samea who knows about this (and, according to him, the head of the National Council for Women, who he says sent a message to the Speaker).

[emilyg]

9. Other places posted this, too.

[TheWraith]

20. Maybe, but it's ridiculously easy for a "news" story to spread this way.

I've seen it happen often; one website runs a story, then many, many others pick it up from there without independently verifying it.

Not to mention I don't even trust US journalists covering a US story to get the facts straight, let alone a British tabloid reporting on Egypt. We'll probably find out that this is a kook bill supported by one guy, the Egyptian Alan West or something.

[riderinthestorm]

23. The Al Arabiya link seems like it's a legit story. And they're not known for sensationalism nt

[TheWraith]

22. Turns out the original "source" is an unsourced opinion column by a pro-Mubarak writer.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey

[derby378]

5. Fuck ME, this is the DUMBEST fucking law I have heard of in a long, long time...

...and yes, I am aware of the new Arizona law that declares a woman to be legally pregnant two weeks before sperm meets egg.

Egypt had a revolution for THIS?!? Why were we backing these sick bastards?

[eyewall]

6. It sounds like the kind of lunacy we've seen in our

politics is being experienced globally. Things are getting very weird.

[rayofreason]

10. No. Nothing, anywhere...

...is this fucked up.

At the rate things are going, in a year's time Egypt will make Somalia look like a tolerant, tranquil spot.

[emilyg]

8. Disgusting.

[rl6214]

11. That's just disgusting.

[truthisfreedom]

12. At least Bill Maher, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert

Will have something they can get some serious groans with.

[usrname]

13. But do women get to have sex with

their dead husband, up to six hours after death? I imagine rigor mortis would give hubby a good boner for that time.

(There's even evidence that a dead male can still orgasm and ejaculate, as long as the nerves have not died.)

[marble falls]

14. Why are we even discussing this crap? True or not, so the freak what? ....

You'll be able to see it headline on the cover of "The Enquirer", on display at discerning grocery checkout lines everywhere. There are "Christians" with even scarier beliefs than that. This is either for the shock value or hatred of Muslims in general.

Hell we might be electing a son of polygamous "Christians" who believe in performing and has himself performed baptisms, marriages, sealings for the dead into his religion and he believes he will become perfected and a god himself with his own little universe, that G*d is really one of many and progenitor of many universes.

this is borderline hate speech, meaning to incite disgust and hatred on an entire class of people due to law being changed somewhere in a single city.

[Ecumenist]

18. HUH? First of all, we're in no danger of EVER SEEING A PRESIDENT with MAGICAL UNDERWEAR

Secondly, the OP was simply posting something that's FACT, ( As much as it might upset you), which is one of the primary activities here in DU and thirdly, THIS IS NOT GOING TO RESULT IN ANY ANTI-MUSLIM actions anywhere. This is not only UNSLAMIC AS HELL but clearly the machinations of a sexually perverted idiot masquerading as an Imam. Get a grip, it ain't that serious...

This isn't meant to incite any sort of disgust nor hatred. However, it does show some issues with respect for human beings on the part of SOME of the new governmental figures in Egypt. Trust me, most Egyptians WILL NOT GO FOR THIS NOR WILL THEY ROLL OVER AND ACCEPT THIS AT ALL!

[harmonicon]

21. That's not true. Eisenhower had magical underwear.

It was secretly developed by the military and top German scientists during and after WWII. It allowed him to time-travel, remote-view, and clearly see the lizard people for what they are. I heard about it on Coast to Coast AM.

[Ecumenist]

26. I didn't know we already have had a President "Magic Draws", WOW! Who knew?

Eisenhower was President "Magic Draws" the first? Wow!!! ROFLMBAO

[marble falls]

40. Mitt stands about a 50/50 chance in everybody's polls...

tap dancing all around it all you want, but this was put up to either titilate or demean Islam.

[Ecumenist]

49. First of all, you obviously DON'T KNOW WHO THE HELL YOU TALKING TO BECAUSE i'm the last

person on DU to be accused of demeaning Islam, CONSIDERING THAT THE BLACK PART MY MOTHER'S FAMILY IS NORTH AFRICAN FROM MOROCCO, TUNISIA AND SOMALIA!!! I know what the fuck I'm talking about in Regards to ISLAM and it's clear that you don't. Secondly, PARSE crap about mittens all you want, that idiot has as much chance of being elected as I do having a vasectomy. His own party are eating one another alive because he vehemently HATED by alot of the "right".

HALLUCINATE, OBFUSCATE AND FANTASISE MUCH? Who the hell is 'EVERYBODY"? Tell that to someone who doesn't pay attention to polls nor has critical thinking.

[emilyg]

34. Got your Christian dig in - didn't you.

[marble falls]

41. You missed my point, I am angry at the anti-Muslim dig ....

and I am a christian on this site that's taken all sorts of abuse here for being "Christian". I question the point of this post. This wasn't put up as an anthropological study, it was put up to hold a whole class of people to ridicule.

[DCBob]

16. That is seriously sick.

Hard to believe this is real.

[Odin2005]

17. Oh, YUCK!!!

[Auntie Bush]

19. And our tax dollars helped put these assholes in power! Sickening! disgusting!

These people are animals! Oh those poor Muslim women! I hope we never spend another dollar to support ANY Muslim country! Let's get out of the middle east.

[Ian David]

25. Computer says Nooo....

Egypt 'necrophilia law'? Hooey, utter hooey.
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey





Today, Egypt's state-owned Al Ahram newspaper published an opinion piece by Amr Abdul Samea, a past stalwart supporter of the deposed Hosni Mubarak, that contained a bombshell: Egypt's parliament is considering passing a law that would allow husbands to have sex with their wives after death.

It was soon mentioned in an English language version of Al-Arabiya and immediately started zipping around social-networking sites. By this afternoon it had set news sites and the rest of the Internet on fire. It has every thing: The yuck factor, "those creepy Muslims" factor, the lulz factor for those with a sick sense of humor. The non-fact-checked Daily Mail picked it up and reported it as fact. Then Andrew Sullivan, who has a highly influential blog but is frequently lax about fact-checking, gave it a boost with an uncritical take. The Huffington Post went there, too.

There's of course one problem: The chances of any such piece of legislation being considered by the Egyptian parliament for a vote is zero. And the chance of it ever passing is less than that. In fact, color me highly skeptical that anyone is even trying to advance a piece of legislation like this through Egypt's parliament. I'm willing to be proven wrong. It's possible that there's one or two lawmakers completely out of step with the rest of parliament. Maybe.

<snip>

Stories like this are already a reminder of the downside of the Internet. It makes fact-checking and monitoring easier. But the proliferation of aggregation sites, newsy blog sites, and the general erosion of editorial standards (and on-the-ground reporters to do the heavy lifting) also spreads silliness faster than it ever could before.

More:
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey

[tawadi]

27. Repulsive. eom

[Justice wanted]

29. . . .

WTMF!

[unkachuck]

30. alright, clue me....

....why would you want to have sex with your dead wife? I barely want to have sex with my live one....

[babydollhead]

39. that's funny!

[Ecumenist]

50. LOL!! UnkaChuck...

[tabasco]

31. Frightening to see so many gullible DUers.

Jesus.

[man4allcats]

32. Ah yes - religion

It makes so much sense. Yeah right!

[Ruby the Liberal]

33. Well, you can make this stuff up and in this case, looks like they did.

See: http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002615452

[Kablooie]

35. Somehow that idea for a law never occurred to me.

[lunatica]

36. Oh puke!

Whether this is true or not the idea is puke worthy.

edited for skepticism

[6000eliot]

37. Horseshit. I don't believe that such a law is being considered.

I also don't believe that there would be much of a demand for it.

[Vinca]

38. Well ick . . . ick, ick, ick, ick, ick.

[mikeytherat]

42. "A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is putting on its shoes." - Mark Twain

But since they're scary Mooslims, who really cares, right?

mikey_the_rat

[pampango]

44. "It has every thing: The yuck factor, "those creepy Muslims" factor, the lulz factor for those with

a sick sense of humor." (From the CSM article.)

Indeed.

[Maine-ah]

43. got a question here....

I'm wondering, how long a woman's released egg survives in her body after death, and if it's possible to fertilize an egg in that period of time? In other words, is it possible to basically impregnate a woman in that 6 hour time frame, only to have the fertilized egg to die?

and IF this story is true, I think this would be a good argument to make.

Please don't make my thought turn into me being a fundie pro-lifer, I'm a full on pro-choice, woman....but if one was to try and make a point with crazy fundies, this one could work as long as there is some science to back it up.

[Javaman]

45. "Come on, Honey. Why the cold shoulder?" nt

[emilyg]

47. snort heehee

[truebrit71]

46. Except they DID make this stuff up. See, this is why we shouldn't use the Daily Heil as a source...

..they are interested in semi-nude celebrities, homo-phobia, and hatred of all things 'foreign'....This is what the British version of Tea-Baggers read...

Personally I only use it for the semi-nude celebrities....

[Arkana]

48. Jesus Christ WHAT.

How disgusting.

[truthisfreedom]

51. THIS IS NOT NEWS, PEOPLE. It originated in an OP-ED piece in the mideast.

It was fabricated into a news piece in the UK. It's not gonna happen, and it is ONE PERSON'S OPINION that the law has even been considered.

[lovuian]

53. These men are SICK in the BRAIN

and it really shows how men must have control even after death

[harun]

54. C'mon guys this is cleary BS.

[BadGimp]

55. Gives new meaning to "havin a cold one with the wife"

[shields up]

[Prometheus Bound]

56. I notice the OP Daily Mail link now brands this "a complete nonsense".

Who would believe this? Even the Daily Mail readers did not buy the original.

[PSPS]

57. Yes, this is a hoax.

http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0426/Egypt-necrophilia-law-Hooey-utter-hooey

[oberliner]

58. Egypt 'Farewell Intercourse' Law a Hoax by Mubarak Supporters?

Reports stemming from the Arab media indicating that Egypt's newly elected, Muslim-dominated Parliament has introduced a "farewell intercourse" law, which would allow husbands to have sex with their wives up to six hours after death, are being called fabrications planted by supporters of former President Hosni Mubarak.

http://global.christianpost.com/news/egypt-farewell-intercourse-law-a-hoax-by-mubarak-supporters-74025/

[neovente]

59. this looks like something the Onion would pull n/t

[3waygeek]

60. Makes sense to me...

anyone who can be pregnant two weeks before conceiving can obviously have sex six hours after her death.

[Douglas Carpenter]

61. Two stupid lies the right spread this week:No, there's no new pro-necrophilia law in Egypt, and the

EPA isn't "crucifying" all oil companies by Alex Pareene for salon.com

The (now updated) Daily Mail story that launched the necrophilia myth(Credit: Daily Mail)


There’s no such law or even any evidence that anyone proposed said law, and even if someone had proposed such a law, there is not even a remote possibility that the Egyptian Parliament would consider it. It’s total bullshit. It’s the Daily Mail overhyping a story Al-Arabiya took from a newspaper opinion column written by a dedicated Hosni Mubarak supporter.

The Christian Science Monitor’s Dan Murphy explained as much yesterday, but the people who highlight specious stories like this don’t actually care about “accuracy”; they are just engaged in a propaganda campaign designed to tar all Muslims as violent radical pervert monsters who are slowly taking over the West.

Number 2: That Obama EPA person said they were going to “crucify” the oil industry. This is a much bigger story (though it is still limited almost entirely to the conservative press) because it was first spread by an actual senator: James Inhofe, the Senate’s worst pilot and best friend of oil and gas. And then it was on Fox, obviously.

And it has now become a regular talking point, that Obama’s EPA is “crucifying” oil companies. (Which is bad because oil companies give us our precious life-giving oil!)

Of course the guy, an administrator named Al Armendariz, was specifically talking about going after companies that broke the law. The idea is that the EPA would punish companies that violated the law, because that is the EPA’s whole deal. (Some people think there shouldn’t be any environmental laws and no EPA, but instead of making that argument, they are instead making the untrue claim, based on words taken out of context, that Obama’s EPA is unfairly punishing all oil companies for no reason.)

http://www.salon.com/2012/04/27/two_stupid_lies_the_right_spread_this_week/singleton/

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[ScreamingMeemie]

62. Locking

This story has been proven to be a hoax.