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peecoolyour

(336 posts)
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:07 PM May 2015

Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert Indicted On Federal Charges

Source: Buzzfeed

WASHINGTON — The Justice Department has indicted former House Speaker Dennis Hastert on reporting evasion charges and lying to the FBI as part of an effort to pay off victims of “prior bad acts.”

In an indictment handed down in the District Court of Northern Illinois, the Department of Justice and IRS charged Hastert, 73, with illegally transferring funds in an effort to avoid detection by the IRS, a scheme known as “structuring.”

In the indictment, Hastert is accused of agreeing to pay one individual $3.5 million.

Although the indictment specifies neither the “bad acts” nor the victims, sources said they could be from before Hastert, who is now a lobbyist in Washington, entered politics in 1980.

Read more: http://www.buzzfeed.com/johnstanton/former-house-speaker-dennis-hastert-indicted-on-federal-char#.fqx4YL1Yq2

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Former House Speaker Dennis Hastert Indicted On Federal Charges (Original Post) peecoolyour May 2015 OP
To the basement hole with your has turd will travel! lonestarnot May 2015 #1
Couldn't have happened to a nicer slimeball n/t deutsey May 2015 #2
"agreeing to pay one individual $3.5 million" Laf.La.Dem. May 2015 #3
"FOX will report this as - Dennis Hastert (D) " You just KNOW they will, if they report it at all. arcane1 May 2015 #30
Spot on, Laf.La.Dem: SunSeeker May 2015 #62
We know them too well. I pity their poor fox truthers.. dumbest mofos on the Planet. Cha May 2015 #63
Well! Looks like there might need to be a new "hastert rule"!!! calimary May 2015 #4
"Don't get caught"? brooklynite May 2015 #5
a unanimous jury. nt geek tragedy May 2015 #10
Breathtaking! calimary May 2015 #36
+++++++1 !!! Historic NY May 2015 #41
As God is my witness, I thought he was dead. Guess he was just staying low. nt onehandle May 2015 #6
Took goddam long enough annabanana May 2015 #7
Turkey would be my guess MosheFeingold May 2015 #18
He was being blackmailed by "Individual A" cosmicone May 2015 #8
Large difference MosheFeingold May 2015 #19
Given the sums involved Man from Pickens May 2015 #20
Whatever happened is probably past statute of limitations cosmicone May 2015 #22
Does sexual abuse of a minor have a statute of limitations? Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #54
It depends on where and when it happened csziggy May 2015 #57
See there is reason why some of us have called him... IthinkThereforeIAM May 2015 #9
Don't worry, Tom Delay will get him out of it mindwalker_i May 2015 #11
I've got to know. bvar22 May 2015 #12
Something worth 3.5 million... HereSince1628 May 2015 #15
Something to do with a bed dgibby May 2015 #27
Or a sheep from the taxidermy store. Hoppy May 2015 #51
I'm guessing it has something to do with his old job jeff47 May 2015 #52
Finally! KamaAina May 2015 #13
DUMMMM-DE-DUM-DUM! nt longship May 2015 #21
DUMMMM-DE-DUM-DUM-DUMMMM! KamaAina May 2015 #34
Dennis Hastert is a lobbyist in Washington? KamaAina May 2015 #14
I guess that's how he came by $3.5 million for the payoff wordpix May 2015 #60
Scum is now a lobbyist shit. Let him lobby in jail Person 2713 May 2015 #16
HAHA! The bastard Hastert had it coming... CTyankee May 2015 #17
Rule 14 of politics: Every Illinois politician is corrupt AngryAmish May 2015 #23
Hastert was also speaker at the time of the Mark Foley scandal. alp227 May 2015 #25
Hmm indeed. AngryAmish May 2015 #29
What's up with Illinois & crooked politicians of both parties? alp227 May 2015 #24
It is simply a very corrupt state. AngryAmish May 2015 #32
Wow, I'd like to hear more about THAT. trof May 2015 #42
What is there to tell? AngryAmish May 2015 #44
Guess so. I lived there in the late 60s. The Sec.of State?... trof May 2015 #46
Just Think of the Collectors Value Oldtimeralso May 2015 #33
You just knew Hastert was sleazy LawnKorn May 2015 #26
Hope he goes down hard ... brett_jv May 2015 #28
Reports expressly said moonscape May 2015 #45
The indictment says the payoffs were for bad acts prior to 1981 csziggy May 2015 #58
Chicago Tribune article, for those averse to clicking Buzzfeed/Huffpo... alp227 May 2015 #31
Better late than never. Hastert was a bucket of dirt when he asjr May 2015 #35
Sibel Edmonds, August 2005: Hastert received illegal payments from Turkish nat'ls for favors. seafan May 2015 #37
It's like someone woke up the Justice Department! rurallib May 2015 #38
Sibel Edmonds is again proved right. nt herding cats May 2015 #39
The indictment has "young boy" all over it. sofa king May 2015 #40
Hastert violated a fundamental rule. former9thward May 2015 #43
Don't forget the Foley page scandal and Hastert's role: "willfully ignorant" Bernardo de La Paz May 2015 #47
I'm a bit perplexed Sgent May 2015 #48
Structuring is a crime involving efforts to avoid the Bank Secrecy Act’s reporting requirements oberliner May 2015 #50
Note: nowadays, any cash transaction over $5K is reported. Sgt Preston May 2015 #56
Thanks to Denny and the PATRIOT Act.... sofa king May 2015 #61
What was he paying to have hushed up? oberliner May 2015 #49
Read the first part of the indictment csziggy May 2015 #59
Whoever he was paying will need a lawyer abouyt now also KinMd May 2015 #53
I look forward to seeing this scumbag do the perp waddle Tom Ripley May 2015 #55

Laf.La.Dem.

(2,943 posts)
3. "agreeing to pay one individual $3.5 million"
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:13 PM
May 2015

WOW - how much money are we talking about!

FOX will report this as - Dennis Hastert (D)

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
30. "FOX will report this as - Dennis Hastert (D) " You just KNOW they will, if they report it at all.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:22 PM
May 2015

calimary

(81,198 posts)
36. Breathtaking!
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:39 PM
May 2015

Last edited Thu May 28, 2015, 08:19 PM - Edit history (1)

Only thing is - that could never be focused down or isolated exclusively to the hapless mr. hastert. Seems to me almost EVERY damn CON would have that as their personal motto!

MosheFeingold

(3,051 posts)
18. Turkey would be my guess
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:01 PM
May 2015

He's is a lobbyist for Turkey to the tune of $400,000 per year and a wiretap of Turkish officials reportedly revealed he had been taking bribes while speaker. Never went anywhere, if I recall correctly.

A lot of the shady deals Tom Delay was implicated in (but skated on) was really Hastert, IMHO.

Bad guy. Wish this happened 20 years ago.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
8. He was being blackmailed by "Individual A"
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:24 PM
May 2015

and the first rule of blackmail is to come clean yourself to get out of it like David Letterman did. The consequences of coming clean are usually less severe than anything else you do.

Unless of course Hastert had committed murder of Individual A's family member and A had proof.

 

Man from Pickens

(1,713 posts)
20. Given the sums involved
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:08 PM
May 2015

it begs speculation of something horrendous like child sexual abuse

Can't say I'm all that comfortable with the actual charges of "structuring" though. That's kind of BS. I'll bet whatever he was being blackmailed over would deserve more serious charges.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
57. It depends on where and when it happened
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:20 AM
May 2015

In Illinois, apparently in 1986 they changed the statute of limitations from three years to longer - but it is much more complicated than that. I found a document that discusses the period of time and the decision whether or not charges should be filed. I'm pre-coffee and not a lawyer so making sense of it is not happening, but if you want to wade through it, here you go:

http://www.icasa.org/docs/statute%20of%20limitations.pdf

There is a simpler chart but it does not discuss older cases: http://www.icasa.org/index.aspx?PageID=460

The organization that put that online is the Illinois Coalition Against Sexual Assault, http://www.icasa.org/home.aspx?PageID=500

IthinkThereforeIAM

(3,076 posts)
9. See there is reason why some of us have called him...
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:24 PM
May 2015

...Dennis the Hastert... aka Jabba the Hutt. For over a decade. He also was a boy's wrestling coach, and I recall there having something inappropriate involved.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
15. Something worth 3.5 million...
Thu May 28, 2015, 05:51 PM
May 2015

prior to his 'work' in government Hastert was a teacher and wrestling coach.

Even talking about Illinois politics....which career is most likely to result in 3.5 million in hush money?

dgibby

(9,474 posts)
27. Something to do with a bed
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:20 PM
May 2015

and either a dead girl &/or a live boy, perhaps??? Just a guess, but it has to be something just as serious, considering the money involved.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
52. I'm guessing it has something to do with his old job
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:58 PM
May 2015

Wrestling coach at a school. So my utterly-not-based-in-any-facts guess is sex with one of his students.

wordpix

(18,652 posts)
60. I guess that's how he came by $3.5 million for the payoff
Fri May 29, 2015, 01:37 PM
May 2015

It's hard werk being a lobbyist - all those phone calls to make and hands to shake.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
23. Rule 14 of politics: Every Illinois politician is corrupt
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:17 PM
May 2015

My money is Hastert raped some kid back in the day and was getting blackmailed. The statute ran on the rape so the got him on this.

Go to jail, shorteyes.

alp227

(32,015 posts)
24. What's up with Illinois & crooked politicians of both parties?
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:18 PM
May 2015

Wow. FOUR governors have been convicted of crimes while in office.

And in recent years, we've got the cases of Reps. Jesse Jackson Jr. and Aaron Schock.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
32. It is simply a very corrupt state.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:25 PM
May 2015

The game is rigged and we just play the game.

I played for 20 years. I sat out this last cycle and got a lot of phone calls. I am sick of paying these assholes and I am closing my practice in 18 to 24 months.

What galls me is we have to host these assholes at my club so we don't run afoul of the law somehow. They drink booze on my dime, eat like pigs and expect us to pay for their caddies.

Fuck these guys.

 

AngryAmish

(25,704 posts)
44. What is there to tell?
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:35 PM
May 2015

That every politician in I have ever met in Illinois is a grifter.

This is not news.

trof

(54,256 posts)
46. Guess so. I lived there in the late 60s. The Sec.of State?...
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:53 PM
May 2015

Was found to have hundreds of thousands of dollars in cash stashed in shoe boxes in his (residence) hotel room?
I think we had to make checks for driver's licenses or something to him personally?
Memory fades.

Oldtimeralso

(1,935 posts)
33. Just Think of the Collectors Value
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:29 PM
May 2015

Illinois is the only state where the license plates are autographed by a former elected official at the site of manufacture!!!

brett_jv

(1,245 posts)
28. Hope he goes down hard ...
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:20 PM
May 2015

However not sure where y'all get the idea that this has anything to do with payoffs for a coverup of sexual misconduct. He's being busted for trying to hide money from the IRS, so to me it seems rather more likely that the $3.5M transfer was done to try to avoid a tax liability for that money.

moonscape

(4,673 posts)
45. Reports expressly said
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:39 PM
May 2015

he was paying off an individual "in order to compensate and conceal his prior misconduct" against that specific person. And the person is someone who has known him a very long time, in his hometown where he was a coach. The sexual component is speculation because it's not stated who the person is or why Hastert was paying him/her off.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
58. The indictment says the payoffs were for bad acts prior to 1981
Fri May 29, 2015, 11:35 AM
May 2015
1. At times material to this indictment:
a. From approximately 1965 to 1981, defendant JOHN DENNIS HASTERT was a high school teacher and coach in Yorkville, Illinois. From approximately 1981 to 2007, defendant JOHN DENNIS HASTERT was an elected public official, including eight years as Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. From approximately 2008 to the present, defendant JOHN DENNIS HASTERT has worked as a lobbyist in Washington, D.C.
b. Individual A has been a resident of Yorkville, Illinois and has known defendant JOHN DENNIS HASTERT
most of Individual A’s life.
c. In or about 2010, Individual A met with defendant JOHN DENNIS HASTERT multiple times. During at least one of the meetings, Individual A and defendant discussed past misconduct by defendant against Individual A that had occurred years earlier.
d. During the 2010 meetings and subsequent discussions, defendant JOHN DENNIS HASTERT agreed to provide Individual A $3.5 million in order to compensate for and conceal his prior misconduct against
Individual A.
https://s3.amazonaws.com/s3.documentcloud.org/documents/2089603/hastert-indictment.pdf


The payoffs were specifically for "past misconduct by defendant against Individual A that had occurred years earlier." Given that Hastert's career prior to being elected to office was as a high school teacher and wrestling coach, it seems logical that sexual misconduct against a minor could be involved. Even though that would not longer be prosecutable, it is not something that a lobbyist - Hastert's career since retiring from elected office - would want to have known.

seafan

(9,387 posts)
37. Sibel Edmonds, August 2005: Hastert received illegal payments from Turkish nat'ls for favors.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:48 PM
May 2015
August 10, 2005

Article cited is in this direct link.


The wheels of justice are very slow, but they grind exceedingly fine.


Ex-House Speaker Dennis Hastert indicted on federal charges, May 28, 2015

rurallib

(62,406 posts)
38. It's like someone woke up the Justice Department!
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:49 PM
May 2015

Do they have a new leader?
YES THEY DO!


"You, Hastert! Come on down!"

Is she circling into arresting some Wall Streeters?

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
40. The indictment has "young boy" all over it.
Thu May 28, 2015, 06:59 PM
May 2015

But the real fun will be in asking where, exactly, Denny got the money in the first place. Was that the suitcases of Turkish heroin money he got for pulling the Armenian genocide resolution?

That would be sweeeeet.

I'm done being nice about assholes like Hastert. Now that America is dead and he's one of the jackals who fattened himself on its corpse, I don't care how he goes down, just that he does.

former9thward

(31,973 posts)
43. Hastert violated a fundamental rule.
Thu May 28, 2015, 07:29 PM
May 2015

Never, never talk to the FBI under any circumstances about anything. If he had not talked they probably would have dropped the whole matter.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,988 posts)
47. Don't forget the Foley page scandal and Hastert's role: "willfully ignorant"
Thu May 28, 2015, 08:06 PM
May 2015
In a December 2006, the House Ethics Committee determined that Hastert and other congressional leaders were "willfully ignorant" in responding to early warnings of the Mark Foley congressional page scandal, but did not violate any House rules.[19][20]
-- Wikipedia

Kind of plays into the blackmail speculation about sexual misconduct from his years as wrestling and football coach?

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
48. I'm a bit perplexed
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:41 PM
May 2015

It was his money, he decided to pay the person off instead of whatever it was (I'm thinking child abuse) coming to light. Unless there is a murder, treason, or similar, its past the statue of limitations.

I'm not sure when becoming a victim of blackmailing was a crime.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
50. Structuring is a crime involving efforts to avoid the Bank Secrecy Act’s reporting requirements
Thu May 28, 2015, 09:52 PM
May 2015

The law says that when taxpayers withdraw or deposit cash in amounts of $10,000 or more, they must file a Currency Transaction Report with the IRS. Those trying to skirt the reporting rules often withdraw or deposit sums under $10,000.

But deliberately evading reporting on cash transactions can trigger probes by the Department of Justice, which can freeze and seize the taxpayer’s assets.

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/05/former-speaker-dennis-hastert-indicted-in-payment-scheme-118387.html#ixzz3bUKtvmMj

 

Sgt Preston

(133 posts)
56. Note: nowadays, any cash transaction over $5K is reported.
Fri May 29, 2015, 10:27 AM
May 2015

It's a "suspicious activity." And your bank teller goes to jail if he or she tells you about it.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
61. Thanks to Denny and the PATRIOT Act....
Fri May 29, 2015, 07:07 PM
May 2015

It amuses me to no end that he didn't know about the laws he rammed through Congress, and it looks like someone broke the hell out of those non-reporting laws to warn him about it, too.

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