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Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:41 PM

Bush, after 'phase out' comment, says Medicare needs reform

Source: USA Today

Jeb Bush, under fire from Democrats for saying he would “phase out” Medicare, said Thursday the program has to be reformed because of unsustainable costs in the long run.

“It’s an actuarially unsound health care system,” Bush told the crowd at a town hall in New Hampshire, adding that “$50 trillion dollars of debt has been accrued and if we do nothing, that’s the burden that we’re going to place on your children and grandchildren.”

Bush spoke a day after making Medicare comments at another town hall: “We need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system that allows them to have something — because they’re not going to have anything.”

Democrats pounced on the “phase out” comment, saying Bush wants to gut the old age health insurance program that has been around for half a century.

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jpak Jul 2015 OP
TwilightGardener Jul 2015 #1
Gman Jul 2015 #15
Faygo Kid Jul 2015 #2
Fritz Walter Jul 2015 #3
Historic NY Jul 2015 #12
DesertFlower Jul 2015 #24
LiberalElite Jul 2015 #36
Duppers Jul 2015 #40
LiberalElite Jul 2015 #42
Scarsdale Jul 2015 #23
LiberalElite Jul 2015 #37
Scuba Jul 2015 #4
Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #5
YOHABLO Jul 2015 #6
DesertFlower Jul 2015 #25
jtuck004 Jul 2015 #7
flamin lib Jul 2015 #8
steve2470 Jul 2015 #9
Enrique Jul 2015 #10
oldandhappy Jul 2015 #11
whathehell Jul 2015 #31
oldandhappy Jul 2015 #39
subterranean Jul 2015 #13
Recursion Jul 2015 #41
NCjack Jul 2015 #14
Helen Borg Jul 2015 #16
Botany Jul 2015 #17
Astraea Jul 2015 #18
DebbieCDC Jul 2015 #19
The_Casual_Observer Jul 2015 #21
Dyedinthewoolliberal Jul 2015 #20
DesertFlower Jul 2015 #26
ion_theory Jul 2015 #22
Rosa Luxemburg Jul 2015 #27
Gothmog Jul 2015 #28
silvershadow Jul 2015 #29
whathehell Jul 2015 #30
Judi Lynn Jul 2015 #32
lobodons Jul 2015 #33
itsrobert Jul 2015 #34
TexasBushwhacker Jul 2015 #35
TheNutcracker Jul 2015 #38
whathehell Oct 2018 #43
jpak Oct 2018 #44
whathehell Oct 2018 #45

Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:43 PM

1. Hmm, I didn't hear "reform", I heard "phase out".

Same as a few weeks ago, I didn't hear that people who want more than part-time work should be able to work more, I heard that we peons all "need to work longer hours" to be more productive. He is as gaffe-tastic as his brother.

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Response to TwilightGardener (Reply #1)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:29 PM

15. He forgot to use the code word for phase out

Which is "reform".

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:47 PM

2. He said "phase out" except for those NOW getting it. Good luck, 64 year olds.

This guy may be more dangerous than any in the GOP field, including Cruz, Walker, et al. Plus, he loves war, except for his family.

"We need to make sure we fulfill the commitment to people that have already received the benefits, that are receiving the benefits," Bush said.

Anything there about those close to receiving the benefits? No!

No more Bushes!!

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:49 PM

3. Is that the whiff of desperation I'm detecting?

James Ellis BUSH is declining (losing?) in the polls, so he's clutching at straws to try to regain popularity among the Repuke base.

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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:25 PM

12. Wait until his base of old farts wake up...

and find he want to reform their medicare

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:34 PM

24. i was just thinking that. will

they vote against their own interests like so many repubs do?

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #12)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:48 PM

36. I do really wish there weren't ageist posts on DU.

Do you really think there aren't people older than you who are members here?

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Response to LiberalElite (Reply #36)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:55 AM

40. Poster was referring to the fact that

Most influential rethugs are aging old farts.

This old gal is not in the least offended because I know that too many of my southern peers are idiots.



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Response to Duppers (Reply #40)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 07:03 AM

42. Good for you

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Response to Fritz Walter (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:33 PM

23. Poppy Bush

What needs to be "phased out" is the retirement plans, and medical coverage of the millionaires who retire from politics. His father will live to be 110 with the Cadillac insurance he has, plus the generous pension from TAXPAYERS. Why are we saddled paying pensions, plus yearly increases to millionaires, who lined their pockets screwing taxpayers during their terms? The worst president EVER (W) now pgets $400,000 a year, plus a million more for office expenses, He gives speeches, which are closed to journalists, with fees of up to $250,000. Even bland, boring Laura charges $50,000 a speech, plus private jet travel expenses. I worked 25 years at the same company, my pension is $400 a month, no healthcoverage. No raises, it will be the same for the rest of my life. I am glad to get it, but why do these crooks retire in luxury, after not even working a full week, going on vacations paid for by lobbyists. Rember Trent Lott? He said he could not remember EVER paying for his own lunch while he was in office!!

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:49 PM

37. ^^^^THIS^^^^

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:49 PM

4. "Unsustainable costs" sounds more like our defense budget to me.

 

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:50 PM

5. Tomato, tomahto.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:51 PM

6. How about a real national healthcare system Jeb? Huh? We need Medicare for EVERYBODY.

 

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Response to YOHABLO (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:36 PM

25. exactly. that would save medicare

because young people would be paying into it.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:53 PM

7. The fiscally responsible thing to do, then, is to raise taxes on your rich buddies to get out of

 

debt, and then come up with a cooperative program, maybe a single-payer sort of thing, or maybe even just health care because it is the smart thing for a nation to do? Take it out of the hands of health insurance companies who only take a profit and add nothing of value, out of the hands of the billionaires who suck excess profit from Oxycontin and other pharmaceuticals.

Put it back in the hands of working people.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:53 PM

8. Instead of shifting all that debt to our kids,

how about shifting it back to the very wealthy and corporations?

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 05:54 PM

9. No, you LIAR, you want PHASE-OUT....

Stick to your guns. I'd have more respect for you if you did. Scum.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:00 PM

10. did I say phase out?

I meant "save"!

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:12 PM

11. Just wrote (hand wrote on note card) a note

to say I am 76 years old, I vote, I like Medicare.

Please join me.

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:04 PM

31. I'll definitely join you.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #31)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:37 PM

39. Thanks

This gives me an idea to put it in under activism.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:26 PM

13. $50 TRILLION of debt? WTF is he talking about??

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Response to subterranean (Reply #13)

Fri Jul 24, 2015, 01:20 AM

41. That was the projected combined SS and Medicare gap if you projected the programs into eternity

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:26 PM

14. "Quick Draw" Jeb has already shot off all his toes. Wonder what's

next? Maybe a shot into his genitals? The DEMs will feast on his "mis-speaks".

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:33 PM

16. Work harder until you die.

And you'll die when you are older and cannot afford any health care.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:41 PM

17. Scrambles McScrambles

"Did I say phase out?" Jeb bush

“We need to figure out a way to phase out this program for others and move to a new system .... " Jeb bush




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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:50 PM

18. oh but 20, 40% yearly increases in premiums

and higher and higher deductibles are right where it's at.

Fuck you and the silver spoon you rode in on, troll.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:54 PM

19. And he's supposed to be the smart one

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Response to DebbieCDC (Reply #19)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:13 PM

21. Sad part is that he's IS the smart one in that bunch.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:57 PM

20. It needs reform all right

reformed to pay better and serve more illnesses or conditions, like mental and dental health......

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Response to Dyedinthewoolliberal (Reply #20)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:38 PM

26. i agree. my grandmother

was one of the first recipients of medicare. we were shocked when we found it didn't cover eye glasses or new teeth.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:27 PM

22. Amazing how this man thinks he can get away

with trying to get rid of Medicare. The more he opens his mouth, the better it looks for Walker.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:45 PM

27. yes Bush privatixation

He can explain to all seniors ehy they should pay for their own health insurance.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:48 PM

28. That is a weak walkback

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 07:57 PM

29. The Bush political dynasty needs to be phased out at the ballot box. nt

 

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:02 PM

30. In Repuke Speak, Reform = Cuts.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:14 PM

32. Incredible he would even bring up the word, "Medicare," after his friend ripped it off.

Absolutely astonishing!

From Bush Family Value$

The Bush clan's family business

—By Stephen Pizzo


| Tue Sep. 1, 1992 3:00 AM EDT :

Jeb and Miguel Recarey
With Miami awash in empty office space in 1986, it was no small event when bagged International Medical Centers as a key tenant for Padreda's HUD-financed building. IMC, which leased nearly all the space in Padreda's vacant building, was at the time one of the nation's fastest-growing health-maintenance organizations (HMO) and had become the largest recipient of federal Medicare funds.

IMC was run by Cuban-American Miguel Recarey, a character with a host of idiosyncrasies. He carried a 9-mm Heckler & Koch semiautomatic pistol under his suit coat and kept a small arsenal of AR-15 and Uzi assault rifles at his Miami estate, where his bedroom was protected by bullet-proof windows and a steel door. It apparently wasn't his enemies Recarey feared so much as his friends. He had a long-standing relationship with Miami Mafia godfather Santo Trafficante, Jr., and had participated in the illfated, CIA-inspired mob assassination plot against Fidel Castro in the early 1960s. (Associates of Recarey add that Trafficante was the money behind Recarey's business ventures.)

Recarey's brother, Jorge, also had ties to the CIA. So it was no surprise that IMC crawled with former spooks. Employee résumés were studded with references to the CIA, the Defense Intelligence Agency, and the Cuban Intelligence agency; there was even a fellow who claimed to have been a KGB agent, An agent with the U.S. Office of Labor Racketeering in Miami would later describe IMC as a company in which "a criminal enterprise interfaced with intelligence operations."

Recarey also surrounded himself with those who could influence the political system. He hired Jeb Bush as IMC's "real-estate consultant." Though Jeb would never close a single real-estate deal, his contract called for him to earn up to $250,000 (he actually received $75,000). Jeb's real value to Recarey was not in real estate but in his help in facilitating the largest HMO Medicare fraud in U.S. history.


http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1992/09/bush-family-value

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:24 PM

33. Tea Party not going to like this idea

 

After all, they are the ones who protested for the Government to keep their hands of their Medicare!!

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 08:56 PM

34. This is supposedly the "smarter brother"?

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 09:44 PM

35. Sorry Jeb! Backpedaling isn't an Olympic event n/t

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 10:32 PM

38. How many misspeaks/passes does Jeb get? He clearly is not up to speaking in these times.

 

And he forgets that most of the voters are seniors.

I'll bet poppy is on Medicare. I'll bet he just doesn't go buy his own private insurance, because he can....oh no, I'll bet he's on Medicare. Kick off the 1%. Start there Jeb.

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Response to jpak (Original post)

Tue Oct 16, 2018, 06:49 AM

43. His dad, Poppy Bush, called it "Socialism" at its start in the 1960:s..

when he was in Congress, and of course, voted against it.


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Response to whathehell (Reply #43)

Wed Oct 17, 2018, 08:14 PM

44. A blast from the past

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Response to jpak (Reply #44)

Thu Oct 18, 2018, 01:59 AM

45. One might almost view it as a "famiy tradition".

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