Up to 10 dead in shootings at Umpqua Community College in Ore. (EDITED)

[Cal Carpenter]

Source: KOMO

ROSEBURG, Ore. – Seven to 10 people are dead after a shooting incident at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., according to the Oregon State Police.

More than 20 other people are reported to be injured.

A school official says shots were fired at Snyder Hall around 10:30 a.m. The official said the school was locked down.

People are being asked to stay away from the campus.

A Douglas County, Ore., official has told CNN that the shooter is now in custody.


Read more: http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Reports-Active-shooter-at-Roseburg-Ore-community-college-330287931.html

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(Updated with more detailed link. Thanks Tripper11)

(Updated again because KOMO had the numbers wrong - it said that the state police confimed 15 dead but it seems like it is only a slightly less devastating number...)

[Purveyor]

1. CNN reports 10 dead. Nt

[Tripper11]

2. 15 dead according to KOMO via Oregon State Troopers

http://www.komonews.com/news/local/Reports-Active-shooter-at-Roseburg-Ore-community-college-330287931.html

ROSEBURG, Ore. – Fifteen people are confirmed dead after a shooting incident at Umpqua Community College in Roseburg, Ore., according to the Oregon State Police.

Several other people are reported to be injured

A school official told a reporter shots were fired at Schneider Hall. The official said the school was locked down.

People are being asked to stay away from the campus.

It was not imediately known if the shooter or shooters had been captured.

[Cal Carpenter]

4. Thanks, updated the OP to use this link instead

The other one was vague but there wasn't much out there yet. I'm sure tons of details are still to be revealed but at least the OP has a better starting point now.

How devastating

[JackInGreen]

3. 10 dead according to Kiro

Good gods will this bullshit ever end.

[underpants]

7. No kidding

My coworker was checking her phone updates and read out that 10 were dead. I hate to say this but it was the TEN that stood out to me not that there was year another shooting. Madness.

[perdita9]

5. Can we talk about regulating guns now?

Or does the body count still have to rise until we're all ankle deep in blood.

[Javaman]

8. wait for the standard line from the nra...

"now is not the time".

in other words, they haven't prepared a statement, counter attack and haven't emailed their rabid members.

[Laf.La.Dem.]

16. If all the students had guns!!

[Javaman]

25. oh yeah, that too.

watch for them to try and push for guns on that campus next.

[LannyDeVaney]

99. Based on my quick research in the last hour ...

concealed carry is allowed at all public schools K-college in Oregon.

I guess the next step by the NRA will be to REQUIRE conceal carry.

[Old Codger]

124. That is true n/t

[branford]

128. The community college was a gun free campus,

and there was only one security officer who was unarmed, according to the governor and former president of the college.

http://seattle.cbslocal.com/2015/10/01/oregon-community-college-shooting/

[workinclasszero]

72. That's what the terrorist organization

The NRA is going to say, no doubt.

[roguevalley]

90. agreed workingclasszero. I weep for my state

[randys1]

103. Yep, terrorists. But really just capitalists. Which means capitalism is.... ....

[PatSeg]

10. "This is no time to politicize this tragedy"

[ChairmanAgnostic]

15. They make me want to grind my teeth.

But around their puny necks, actually.

the NRA has blood on its hands.

[PatSeg]

22. I know

They repeat the same tired crap over and over again, and sometimes they actually attack the victims and their families. It is beyond my comprehension, so cold, selfish, and ugly.

[Iggo]

50. This is exactly the time to politicize this tragedy.

There is no better time.

[Tansy_Gold]

85. But it won't happen. It never does

Two people are murdered on live TV and nothing has changed.

It's not going to happen. This is the country the NRA wants, and the public still supports the NRA. Get used to it. This is America. Period.

[randys1]

104. Yes, and the person you responded to was being sarcastic thus agreeing with you.

But NO BETTER time!

leet's start a twitter campaign #thismustend

[PatSeg]

134. Yes

I was paraphrasing the right's response to yet another senseless massacre. It is long past time.

[LanternWaste]

31. The implied response has been, is, and will be "this is simply the price we have to pay..."

The implied response has been, currently is, and most likely will continue to be "this is simply part and parcel of the price we have to pay..."

If twenty dead six- and seven-year old schoolchildren did nothing to help us better reflect upon our definition of "freedom", I fear nothing will change, and the dogmatic will cling to statistics (e.g., "one death is a tragedy; one million deaths is merely a statistic" ~ J. Stalin).

[SheilaT]

40. Maybe (and I'm not exactly advocating this)

the NRA might re-think guns just a little if someone went into one of their little conventions and shot and killed a bunch of people.

[Iggo]

52. No guns allowed at NRA events.

They're evil.

But they're not fucking stupid.

[S_B_Jackson]

76. Whether guns allowed or not is/was a call of th

arena/convention center where that year's convention is held, in locations that do not prohibit the NBA has had no issues with legal carry.

[Enthusiast]

119. How do they feel about basketballs?

I kid.

[Angry Dragon]

56. I remember a convention they had not long ago where guns were not allowed

even they do not trust their members

[ManiacJoe]

133. The no-gun rule belongs to the insurance carrier of the venue.

[Angry Dragon]

136. so what ........ true gun believers would never had held their convention there

[ManiacJoe]

138. True gun believers know that large venues are hard to come by.

Just about everyone else knows that, too.

[Submariner]

41. Not until the gun humpers target and kill children of Congress critters

When the kids of republican senators and house reps start getting gunned down, the discussion will begin. Until then, not so much.

[YoungDemCA]

49. +1

[marew]

66. +2

[47of74]

74. Some of these asswipes Congress people love the NRA more than their spouses and children.

So I wouldn't count on that.

[TheCowsCameHome]

79. +3

[Fred Sanders]

126. It is not "Congress", it is the Republicans in Congress beholden to the vile NRA.

[patsimp]

43. This won't sway anyone who supports gun ownership or NRA supporter.

There answer will be to arm everyone on campus.

Nevermind that someone being shot in the back can have as many guns on them as possible and still not be able to do anything but die.

[Old Codger]

125. Actually

There are a lot of us who support gun ownership and also support more gun controls,this type of thing reflects on all of us but represents only a small amount .... It is truly a tragedy and truly needs to have something done about it . But demonizing a large portion of law abiding citizens is not the best way to get them on your side...

[patsimp]

153. I don't think anything will get those gun owners on side - shouldn't they be the ones leading

the charge to stop gun violence? I don't see them ever doing anything but hold their guns tightly and say the mantra 'that won't work' and other bullshit proposals and delay tactics. The one I truly despise is when the NRA chairman says that 'victim's are too emotional' and then himself starts to go crazy when anyone talks about gun control saying the idiotic argument that 'we want to take their guns away'.

No one will change the gun owner's mind. It's about money and politics and fear.

[Old Codger]

154. The discussion

Goes on and on and on, one side says get rid of all the guns, the have no practical way of doing that short of martial law and house to house searches.. I sincerely doubt they really think that will happen and I'm fairly certain that they would have a hard time allowing a complete search of everything they own.. This an argument that goes round and round and never stops ..

I personally own guns I personally would not be willing to voluntarily give them up, I have done nothing wrong... no sense in even discussing this anywhere on this board, has been tried and run down several times, not even sure why I am at this time.. they all point fingers at one another and go round and round about it ... nothing ever gets done...

[MoonchildCA]

51. No, because that would be politicizing it.

Isn't that the usual crap the spew?

[Kelvin Mace]

55. It's never time to talk about gun control

You can be literally tripping over the bodies of first graders with holes in their bodies the size of grapefruits, and it is still not time to talk about gun control

[fredamae]

83. I am a bit Upset over this

so I called the OR Legislature House Speakers Ofc...yes, my voice was raised...10, at least...people...someones children are Dead today. I do not feel as IF the Trifecta of Dems in Oregon went far Enough on Gun Safety....The woman who answered the phone hung up on me as I was stating I Expect More from "my" Dems. ...
So, yeah...just keep Reacting to Crap like this and pass laws that don't go far enough or laws that Authorities are allowed to NOT enforce....

[Rocknrule]

147. These people would be fine with a Newtown every single day

as long as gun laws remained the same

[Sunlei]

6. awful how one person can cause such harm with a gun.

[villager]

14. There would have been just as many mass casualties with piano wire, doncha know!

The NRA told me so!

[Elmergantry]

117. when a dentist kills a lion

Its the dentists fault. When a lunatic kills innocents its the guns fault

[villager]

120. The dentist choked the lion with piano wire!?

I missed that part.

[ChairmanAgnostic]

9. suspect in custody.

Too bad. We have to spend legal resources on his trial.

That bastard.

[PatrynXX]

20. hell if I want him dead

or her. usually it's a guy thing

and the person usually wants to end up dead.. I have no wish to give him what he wants. so the idiot kills *** people I never mention their f**king names

[7962]

38. I wish the news would do the same; NEVER mention the killers name.

STOP giving them publicity.

[7962]

36. I agree. Try him, execute him.

[Feeling the Bern]

39. Yeah, due process is a bitch.

Let's just take the shooter out back and put a bullet in his head immediately. It works so well in North Korea.

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

75. Sounds like a plan ...

... and afterwards we can break out some Chardonnay and discuss how the death penalty is inhumane, unjust, and not used in civilized countries.

[Feeling the Bern]

84. Yeah, that Constitution is just a God damned piece of paper anyway.

[gopiscrap]

11. NBC broke into their regular programming

said at least 10 are dead, 20 wounded. Umpqua is my bank. This really speaks to me, I have friends down there and lived there briefly!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

12. Shit. Shit. Shit.

And we won't learn a thing from it. We never will.

If 20 dead first graders wouldn't do anything, nothing will.

Sick. So sick.

[IcyPeas]

47. That's what I always think now too

If 20 little kids didn't change the gun culture I don't know what would.

[TwilightGardener]

13. Holy shit.

[murielm99]

17. Again.

[restorefreedom]

18. dammit. just dammit.

may the spirits ease passage of the dead, send healing energy to the injured, and comfort the survivors.

[sarge43]

23. ...

Forgive us.

[LongTomH]

53. ............

[YoungDemCA]

19. I can't deal with it anymore. I just can't.

I will make my best effort to stay away from the news for the next several days. It's too traumatic. Too horrific.

RIP to the victims.

[jpak]

21. Cue the gun-humper apologists

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[Tommy_Carcetti]

26. The shooter was No True Scotsman. nt

[onehandle]

24. And as usual, Gun Culture will react like this...

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[villager]

30. Their fetish-objects are the only things they have true "compassion" for....

Nothing else really matters in their world....

[C Moon]

27. FIF-FRIGGING-TEEN!!!? That's awful!!!

[Cal Carpenter]

59. It seems that KOMO was off by a few - the subject line and article have been

updated to reflect new numbers of 7 to 10 dead. No less awful, really, but more accurate.

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

28. iiiii iiiii iiiii

[herding cats]

29. .

[Kingofalldems]

32. Threat now over, not known if shooter is dead.

http://www.cbsnews.com/live/

[Iggo]

54. It's never over.

[SheilaT]

33. Live streaming available here:

http://www.katu.com/news/live

With no TV, I've learned that when something like this happens, local TV stations often go to live streaming. This seems to be the only one in Portland that is currently live streaming.

[cascadiance]

92. KOIN and KGW, KPTV have live streams too. Now some aerial video...

KOIN (CBS):
http://koin.com/video/livestream/

KGW (NBC) (Click on "Live Feed" link):
http://streema.com/tv/play/KGW_NewsChannel

KPTV (Fox):
http://www.kptv.com/category/210121/watch-fox-12-live-video-stream

[msongs]

34. 2A enabled gun owner goes on spree using guns for their intended purpose nt

[TheCowsCameHome]

35. Any comments from the gun-humpers yet?

You know, the expert analysis of type of weapon, how many rounds it held, whether it was an "assault weapon" or not............

[Feeling the Bern]

46. Here's the Arrogant Worms.

[Geronimoe]

37. THe next NRA Convention

will be moved to ROSEBURG, Ore.

[Tab]

42. You can listen to police/fire/safety radio traffic here:

http://www.broadcastify.com/listen/feed/19114/web

[Feeling the Bern]

44. It isn't the gun. . .good guys with guns. . .no need for gun control

Cue NRA talking points from gun nuts on DU in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1.

[7962]

45. The problem is, the 300 million genies are out of the bottle

We'll never get rid of them. I've always told my mulitple-gun owner friends, you HAVE to admit that there would be less murder if there were NO guns. But there are 300 million of them. So many other countries never HAD handguns available to start with.

Now I want to know the who, why and with what.

[Tommymac]

48. OMG

[classof56]

57. My first daughter was born in Roseburg.

Dear god, what is going on?? I feel sick. No way to reasonably figure this out. My grandson attends another of Oregon's community colleges. I say, thanks a whole helluva lot, NRA, Gunowners of America, anti-gun control advocates. A pox on all of you!

I feel sick.

[MosheFeingold]

113. What is Roseburg like? n/t

[classof56]

159. To be honest, I did not like Roseburg and have few positive memories of living there.

Except for the daughter's birth part, of course. I found it to be a community rife with "rednecks" whose far right mindset was 'way over the top for me, since even back then I was a die-hard liberal. Sounds like it's not much different now, as I see their sheriff had vowed not to enforce the background check laws Oregon's legislature just passed. Probably even this awful event in his county will not serve to change his mind. Residents pretty much held environmentalists in contempt, as timber was Roseburg's economic base, evidenced by the clearcutting in the nearby forests, greatly impacting the beauty of the area. If you google "The Roseburg Blast" you'll read about a huge explosion that wiped out much of the downtown in 1959, had nothing to do with their right-wing policies, but an interesting story nonetheless. They also once had what they called "weather-predicting goats" grazing on a surrounding hillside, pretty much bereft of foliage, may or may not have been the result of all that logging.

My spouse's job landed us in Roseburg, but we didn't stay long, moving north to Eugene, that hotbed of liberalism. Liked that lots better! I feel terrible about the tragic events of yesterday, doubly so since I have a grandson attending an Oregon community college in another town, and can definitely relate to the horror and aftermath of the shootings.

This is probably more than you wanted to know, but thank you for asking and for reading my answer, if you made it through all my words.

Cheers and blessings.

[MosheFeingold]

160. I did read and appreciate the answer. Even the goats. n/t

[Jack Rabbit]

58. I can't even react to this anymore

Wayne LaPierre has done a lot to make mass murder normal behavior in America.

[Tom Kitten]

60. Sickening

Just awful awful awful!!!
went to the oregonlive.com story and sure enough the nuts are out in force commenting...
Absolutely disgusted.

[AngryOldDem]

65. Of course the nuts are out.

They never pass up the chance to advance their agenda at the expense of the dead and wounded.

[Tom Kitten]

69. You got that right

I think the third comment I read blamed Obama and liberals so that was the end of me wasting my time and what remains of my mental health.

[0rganism]

61. Oregonian has a page for it + livestream

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/active_shooting_reported_at_um.html

[C Moon]

62. Phone guest on CNN wanted to make it clear that it was a gun free zone.

Glad he made that clear. :/

[Paladin]

68. MSNBC just announced that guns were allowed on campus.

A little clarification on this would be helpful. That "gun free zone" thing is used by pro-gun types to shift the blame to the victims in situations like this.

[C Moon]

71. They're discussing it again.

The host asked what a gun-free zone means.
The guest said, "Gun free zone doesn't mean anything to the shooter. It means the people that are there are vulnerable to the shooter—like we saw here today..."

There you go.

[ManiacJoe]

80. There is no victim blaming there.

Because there are no legal guns allowed there, the staff is unable to defend the students even if they wanted to.

The students would be unarmed regardless since almost all will be ineligible for concealed carry due to age restrictions.

[C Moon]

87. It's just a sad remark that these assholes are defending guns in this bloody mess.

It's not necessary at this point.
Give it at least a couple days.
Jesus Christ!

[Paladin]

88. The average age of students at that college is 30-plus.

And there most certainly will be victim-blaming. There always is.

[ManiacJoe]

95. Good to know about the ages. Thanks.

Yes, unfortunately, there will be victim blaming by the ignorant.

[Paladin]

82. As if crossfire by amateurs on a college campus would make things better. (nt)

[mopinko]

145. ^^^^ this

[riversedge]

63. Horrible. I feel for the friends and families.

[xocet]

64. ...

RIP

This never ends. No matter how many times it happens.

[SoapBox]

67. And it happens, again...

[Amishman]

70. shooter may have warned in advance on 4chan

only to receive encouragement and advice on how to do it.

Found this while searching for more information

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:OZGEjT1ilSUJ:https://archive.moe/r9k/post/22785729/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us

[Tommy_Carcetti]

81. Between that and George Zimmerman's Twitter page, I'm almost physically ill from the internet

Even if that's a fake, it's still incredibly disgusting.

[Rocknrule]

129. George Zimmerman is proof to me that karma doesn't exist

So is Dick Cheney. Just watch, both those assholes will die peacefully in their sleep at the age of 99.

[Old Crow]

91. Incredibly, I just finished reading a DU post about that message...

... when I saw this thread.

Here's the DU post about the Reddit message:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027219070

On edit: Sorry: Looking at the timestamp, the DU poster was responding to the news of the shooting. I didn't realize it was such a recent post. My apologies; I'm still processing all this.

[Tom Kitten]

110. I went there and now I have to vomit

I've taken long breaks from the internet to stop the feelings of despair I get sometimes.

Someone should hack that site and reveal who these commenters are. Who or what the fuck are these people. That's my opinion, I don't care if anyone agrees or disagrees.

Maybe it's time for another break.

[Ahpook]

146. That is fucked up!

"I suggest you enter a classroom and tell people that you will take them as hostages. Make everyone get in one corner and then open fire.

Make sure that there is no way that someone can disarm you as it it possible. I suggest you carry a knife on your belt as last resort if someone is holding your gun"


That motherfucker needs to be scooped up and asked just what in the hell he is about. Those parasites had a prime opportunity to help stop this.

[MynameisBlarney]

73. On Raw Story

Last edited Thu Oct 1, 2015, 04:36 PM - Edit history (1)

They're saying 15 dead...and someone posted a link to a 4chan page from yesterday that may have been the shooter discussing it other people and they were egging him on and giving tips to maximize the body count...

It made me physically ill after reading only a few of the comments...

[a la izquierda]

86. No kidding! I just ventured over there and now I need a shower.

[MynameisBlarney]

112. The lowest of the low congregate there apparently

It's the Mos Eisley of the internet.

[Electric Monk]

106. Here's that 4chan screen cap

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027219070#post4

https://imgur.com/F90JrJW

[leftyladyfrommo]

142. We have a lot of seriously sick people

in this country.

[Gumboot]

77. And this is the 45th school / college shooting this year.

Deepest sympathies, from a Coloradan who's sick of hearing this same story again and again.

[llmart]

155. I work at a university.....

Working at a University is now more dangerous than being a police officer. Maybe we should all ask for combat pay.

This country is seriously screwed up.

[Milliesmom]

78. Read it and weep for our children, just on school shootings to date

School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook

Since the December 2012 shooting in Newtown, CT, there have been at least 142 school shootings in America — an average of nearly one a week. How many more before our leaders pass common-sense laws to prevent gun violence and save lives?

Communities all over the country live in fear of gun violence. That’s unacceptable. We should feel secure in sending our children to school — comforted by the knowledge that they’re safe.

http://act.everytown.org/signup/Newtown-Anniversary/?source=emno_NewtownAnniversary&utm_source=em_n_&utm_medium=_o&utm_campaign=NewtownAnniversary
to see a new ad from Moms Demand Action.

Analysis of School Shootings
Every town for Gun Safety has tracked school shootings since Newtown. http://everytown.org/documents/2014/10/analysis-of-school-shootings.pdf to read the full report.


Chart showing schools,how many died, etc. at below link.


http://everytown.org/article/schoolshootings/

[mentalslavery]

89. Prime example of the failure of conceal carry

it will be difficult for the rw to make claims about more access to weapons as a deterrent

[ManiacJoe]

114. See the subthread starting at post #62.

[turbinetree]

93. The count..................................

update

[restorefreedom]

94. 13 dead as of 4 pm est

shooter is dead.

via shep smith

yes i watch fox for breaking if shep is on.

[hibbing]

96. Sigh

The next Republican debate will consist of questions like this "Mr. Rubio, Mr. Trump has said this about you.." No questions about income inequality and all the other screwed up things in this country, let alone a question about guns.

Peace

[branford]

101. Firearms are not really an issue among Republican primary voters,

and this tragedy is unlikely to make any difference in Republican politics.

All the questions you want will be asked in the actual presidential election debates, although as repeated polls and past elections indicate, gun control is still politically disadvantageous for Democrats in competitive states. If Sandy Hook and reporters getting shot on live television didn't change anything in the polls, I doubt very much that this shooting will have any effect. Partisan attitudes hardened long ago.

[kelliekat44]

127. Even when some of the gun lovers have their own children or grandchildren killed in gun accidents

it doesn't change their minds. In their minds it being able to shoot someone.

[KG]

97. que the ammosexuals gun-splaining how guns had nothing to do with this...

[tabasco]

98. This is pretty clearly just another well-regulated militia operation

What's the big deal? The Constitution says the well-regulated militia (under current interpretation, any wack job that wants a gun) is a good thing!

[neohippie]

100. Shooter apparently posted anonymously to 4chan last night about his plans

I read in another forum that the shooter was online on 4Chan Forum last night talking about his plans and people were encouraging him and egging him on

Here is a link to the archived thread there https://archive.moe/r9k/thread/22785073/


On edit, Sorry I didn't realize that someone had already added this information sorry for reposting

[citizen blues]

102. I teach at another community college in Oregon

This has hit waaaaaayyy close to home. I'm am so very sad about it. I also have to say that the public safety department at my community college has taken extra-ordinary measures to try to keep us safe. They did presentations at all this fall's instructor in-services. I'm so grateful that they have strategized responses and taken the time to communicate them to the faculty. As part of the process, they analyzed other campus shootings, including Virginia tech where the shooter chained the outside handles of the doors together so people couldn't get out of the building. As a result, my campus has removed one of the outside handles on every entrance to a building, so they can't be chained. I'm horrified that we have to take these steps and know it won't be getting any better any time soon.

[cascadiance]

105. Oregon Republican gubernatorial candidate campaigned on arming teachers...

Dennis Richardson said about other school shooting incidents that he'd have saved children if he had been there. I wonder if he might have shot the wrong person and compounded the problem in this situation. Republicans should be reminded that he looks to arm teachers to solve this problem...

http://gawker.com/5969010/most-of-the-murdered-children-would-still-be-alive-if-state-rep-dennis-richardson-had-been-there-with-his-gun

I used to have tons of classes in University of Iowa's physics building when I went to school there, where there was another mass shooting by Gang Lu there, that was the basis for the movie "Dark Matter" which Meryl Streep starred in.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/science/27dark.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0416675/

I think these shootings are starting to hit everyone personally with each of us having memories of what has gotten too close to each of us. Has me sad with another shooting here in Oregon (after Clackamas and Reynolds school shootings in 2014).

[Dems to Win]

107. Watering the 2nd Amendment with the blood of innocents

America pays a daily blood price for the 2nd Amendment and the equating of gun rights with civil rights and human rights.

If we couldn't change after Sandy Hook, there is nothing that could possibly change us. America will be awash in guns and gun deaths as long as there's an America.



RIP

[polly7]

109. Just terrible and sad.

[AlinPA]

111. Happiness at the NRA. As usual, more guns will sold after this shooting.

[WheelWalker]

115. I was walking out of Costco a mile away when it went down.

In just a month, Roseburg has had a hero and a fiend.

[passiveporcupine]

116. Roseburg is too close to home for me

I have a nephew in college in Eugene...of course I panicked when I saw the lead but didn't know yet where in Oregon this happened. Now I'm just sick for all those families who felt the same way and found out it was one of their loved ones who was killed. I don't know how serious the injured are. I hope the death toll doesn't rise on this.

I don't understand how conversations like the 4chan with anonymous posters can go on without some kind of alert to the FBI or something to try to apprehend this before it happens. Even if it's just a threat and won't be followed through, we need a way to try to stop these events if they are being discussed on-line. And what about those who were in the convo who were saying don't do it? Why didn't they alert someone? This just makes no sense to me. And to think there are so many young men out there who encourage this stuff...it's just sickening.

I did some target practice when I was a kid and loved it. Now I hate guns. I hate the sound of guns and there is a place where people go shooting close enough to me I can hear them in the distance. Of course it's almost (or already is) hunting season here, so everyone is out there practicing...I am not against hunters or hunting (I don't like it, but can accept it) but it's getting to the point that the sound of a gun is just so ugly to me that it's affecting my ability to be rational about it.

[davidpdx]

156. Me too

Grew up in Southern Oregon.

Spent a considerable amount of my adult life in Portland (11 years) before moving to South Korea. It was just a few years ago that they had the shooting at Clackamas Town Center. That was only in the news for a few days because the shooting in New Town happened. This shooting will be yet another asterisk, something that is quickly forgotten until the next one.

[WheelWalker]

118. Live presser by County Sheriff just starting now...

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2015/10/active_shooting_reported_at_um.html#incart_big-photo

[TexasBushwhacker]

158. Yeah, the sheriff that protested Obama after Newtown

http://m.motherjones.com/mojo/2015/10/oregon-sheriff-umpqua-massacre-white-house-gun-control-newtown

[cascadiance]

121. Governor Kate Brown just spoke a moment ago... (n/t)

[Plucketeer]

122. Yet one more recruitment tool for the NRA

And the sad thing is, it'll work to some degree.

[Enthusiast]

123. This sucks.

[Rocknrule]

130. Don't get your hopes up

If 27 kindergarteners being killed wasn't enough to snap America out of its gun fetish, nothing ever will be.

There are people in this country who would rather bury their sons than bury their guns (their words, not mine). I used to have one of them as a roommate.

[WheelWalker]

131. Interviewed student survivor being quoted as telling reporter that shooter asked victims' religion

before shooting.

"Kortney Moore, an 18-year-old student, told the News-Review newspaper of Roseburg that she was in a writing class in Snyder Hall when her teacher was shot in the head.

The shooter told people to get on the ground and started asking them people to stand up and state their religion, Moore told the newspaper."

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/multiple-casualties-after-shooting-umpqua-community-college-n437051

[RussBLib]

132. I seriously doubt the shooter was an atheist

much more likely he's a Muslim supporting the "one true religion"

but hey, Christians have also been known to go psycho

[Cal Carpenter]

135. Why do you say it is likely he is a Muslim?

Most of these recent mass school shootings have not been done by Musilms...

[ManiacJoe]

137. Not "likely" but "more likely". Still unlikely.

[840high]

157. He's mixed-race.

[WheelWalker]

139. Oddly, Roseburg made news just a month or so ago when Alex Skarlatos jumped a terrorist on a French

train. A hero and a fiend in such a short time for such a rural town is odd to me, anyway.

[C Moon]

140. Following the threads here, I found a YouTube guy who many are saying was the shooter.

I don't want to post it, because I know how false stories pop up in these tragedies.
But this guy is definitely on edge of his life, and needs (needed) help.

[Warren Stupidity]

143. Another day another massacre.

But we just can't do anything about it, because -words-.

[Botany]

144. Roseburg, OR?????

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I had a family member who started the Oregon wine industry there ..... Hillcrest Vineyards

My heart is heavy .... I feel awful.

Fuck the G.D. NRA who no doubt are in meetings right now on how to handle "this problem."



Umpqua River Falls

[leftyladyfrommo]

148. I just saw 13 dead, 20 wounded and the shooter is dead

in a shoot out with police.

Just another normal day in the US

[MisterP]

149. the most dangerous thing is that we see it as routine--as something like a flood or fire

[roamer65]

150. Gun humpers will say that school gun bans are the problem.

They will use their usual stupid arguments. It's getting really old, really fast.

[rockfordfile]

151. A gun culture

A gun culture thanks to the NRA and the republican party.

[bluedigger]

152. A friend of mine goes there - wasn't on campus today.