Bernie Sanders Leads Hillary Clinton in New Nationwide Poll With First Debate in 6 Days

[leftcoastmountains]

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Source: Independent Journal

Democrats are Feeling the Bern as Democratic presidential candidates prepare for their party’s first primary debate on Oct. 13.

Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders leads former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton among Democrats who say they’re planning on watching next week’s first Democratic presidential debate, according to a poll conducted by Google Consumer Surveys for IJ.com.

Vice President Joe Biden, who is expected to announce this weekend whether he’ll enter the race, comes in third. He’s trailed by Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren, former Virginia Senator Jim Webb, former Maryland Governor Martin O’Malley and former Rhode Island Governor Lincoln Chafee:

Read more: http://www.ijreview.com/2015/10/438678-exclusive-bernie-sanders-leads-hillary-clinton-among-democrats-watching-next-weeks-debate/

[tomm2thumbs]

1. pictures speak volumes -

[OKNancy]

2. LOL - that site is trash

You should read some of the crap on that place.

[leftofcool]

5. I wish I hadn't even clicked on the link. Pure trash!

[SoapBox]

6. And there you have it folks!

Scientific proof...the site is "trash"!

[4now]

3. Sad desperation

[Fred Sanders]

4. "Survey" of some sort by 'Google Consumer Surveys'.....so not a poll, or scientific, and hence not

reliable. Paid for by "IJ.com"?

We all know how much some folks love Bernie, "feeling the bern" and all that, but....really.....

This is even one step below unscientific, hence unreliable, on-line "polls" usually favored!

https://www.google.com/insights/consumersurveys/home

Latest Broken News is the proper forum to post this trash.

[still_one]

8. Absolutely correct. in fact it is an internet survey, and there are all kinds of errors introduced

with that.

[still_one]

7. Google Consumer Surveys? That is an internet poll. Who gets excluded from that?

"Google Consumer Surveys offer researchers an inexpensive option to field surveys of either one or two questions using an online platform. Google Consumer Surveys operate through targeting Internet users who seek to access “premium content,” including news articles, videos, or other websites that would otherwise require a payment or subscription to access the content. The publishers of these websites have agreed to allow Google to administer questions to their users through a corporate agreement wherein Google pays the publisher for access to the potential respondents. In exchange, the respondent gains access to the content for free. The questions appear as prompts when users try to access the premium content; this prompting is also known as a “survey wall” since respondents must either answer the question or click an X to remove the question from their screen. Google uses an algorithm to properly distribute the questions across the publishers’ networks. As of March 2013, there were over 80 sites in their networks, and more than 30 under review. The network is diverse in terms of content and excludes offensive sites. The average response rate was 16.75 percent according to a recent Pew report (Keeter, et al., 2012)."

http://www.amstat.org/sections/srms/proceedings/y2013/files/308821_81587.pdf

So the question is how accurate is the Google Consumer Survey? What kind of track record do they have?

[onenote]

9. leads among those who say they're planning on watching the debate

Believe me, I know a lot of folks who will vote in the primaries who aren't going to be watching the Democratic debate next week. It will be interesting to see what sort of viewership the debate gets.

[Tarheel_Dem]

10. So, people who already support BS, will be watching. Quelle Surprise! Click Bait.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Right wing site. Try again.

Owned and operated by two former GOP staff members.

Wikipedia explains:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Journal_Review

DU is a Democratic Party site.

[workinclasszero]

15. More GOP sites for Bernie?

And their garbage gets carried right over here....SMH

[pnwmom]

12. Self-selected Internet surveys are worth the paper they're printed on.

[NuclearDem]

13. I must have missed when VP Biden declared his candidacy.

And Senator Warren as well! Quite the surprise.

Seriously, can we actually have a poll that reflects reality for a change?

[Kornelio]

14. 19 recs for an unscientific poll made by a right-wing site (Independent Journal Review)

Sanders' supporters are interesting.

[etherealtruth]

16. From the article

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html

Clinton, who at one point enjoyed a roughly 50 percentage point lead in the race, still retains a commanding lead in the RealClearPolitics average of polls, outpacing Sanders by more than 16 percentage points for the period from Sept. 17 to Oct. 4.

[RBInMaine]

17. Piece of turd "poll" from a non-scientific site. :-)

[sufrommich]

19. Where are the LBN moderators? This is neither "breaking news" nor

an actual poll.

[sufrommich]

20. A little info on the IJ review who are promoting this "poll":

The Right Wing Has Its Own Upworthy And You Won’t Believe How Well It’s Doing
A newer conservative website, run by insiders but with an outsider appeal, has rocketed past its better-known competitors in traffic by aiming intensely at social sharing and taking advantage of a massive and accelerating shift toward Facebook as the key source of traffic to publishers.
The Independent Journal Review — which is invisible in the heated Beltway arguments among sites from the venerable National Review and Weekly Standard to the newer Breitbart, Free Beacon, and Daily Caller — appears to have outstripped all of them in traffic with a strategy that mimics its wildly successful liberal cousin, Upworthy.
Some recent headlines mirror Upworthy’s play on the “curiousity gap” and its ideological appeal, like “This Teen Thought He Could Knockout an Innocent Victim. Then He Learned About the 2nd Amendment” (51,000 Facebook likes); and
“Judge Jeanine Takes Obama to the Woodshed for Lying in This Scathing Tongue-Lashing” (26,000 likes). Others are more straightforwardly heartwarming: “These Lovable Therapy Dogs at Walter Reed Make Life Just a Bit Better for Wounded Vets” (14,000 likes). (The existence of the “knockout game” is a matter of debate.)
It’s the kind of publishing strategy that — paired with Facebook’s recent decision to drive more traffic to publishers — has put Upworthy, according to the very roughly reliable traffic measurement service Quantcast, into the top tier of American publishers by traffic. (Quantcast generally undercounts traffic somewhat — a site’s internal traffic numbers are usually higher.) IJR’s Quantcast profile is private, but the site’s co-founder recently shared data suggesting it is ranked 205, above the Daily Caller, The Weekly Standard, and Breitbart, and trailing only Glenn Beck’s The Blaze — despite never having gotten a link from the key source of conservative traffic, the Drudge Report.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/katherinemiller/the-right-wing-has-its-own-upworthy-and-you-wont-believe-how#.pf1Pp0V55





This crap showing up LBN let alone any DU forum is an embarrassment.

[petronius]

21. Locking. Sorry, but Host consensus is that this report does not fit

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