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Newsjock

(11,733 posts)
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:17 AM Oct 2015

Gas prices jump 20 cents overnight

Source: Orlando Sentinel

The gift of gas under $2 a gallon ended Wednesday as prices shot up as much as 20 cents a gallon overnight at many Central Florida stations, but experts said Wednesday that cheaper fuel should be back soon.

Several markets across the United States saw overnight spikes in gasoline prices, due mostly to seasonal refinery maintenance, said Gregg Laskoski, a senior petroleum analyst for Gasbuddy.

... But Laskoski said the jump is likely temporary, and that prices should drop again in the coming weeks.

"This is a significant spike, but it should come back down," he said.

Read more: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-gas-prices-jump-orlando-20151007-story.html

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Gas prices jump 20 cents overnight (Original Post) Newsjock Oct 2015 OP
Such bullshit. Volatility as the product of a predictable, scheduled, maintenance event? Come on. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #1
amusing really, since the saudi's just cut the price on monday. Javaman Oct 2015 #2
Consumers are being Seasonally Screwed by big oil BadGimp Oct 2015 #3
Well all the different formulas required doesn't help yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #5
Different formulas of gas are better for controlling pollution christx30 Oct 2015 #13
But if they would just do one blend all year round then the price and pollution could stableize....m yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #16
Legally, they can't. These blends are mandated by christx30 Oct 2015 #18
Right, my car is running on fumes because I've wanted to wait for gasohol Warpy Oct 2015 #28
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #32
Needing a retrofit StanP50 Oct 2015 #4
That blows. Time_Lord Oct 2015 #6
"seasonal refinery maintenance" Babel_17 Oct 2015 #7
That's how they keep the gas prices high in California SwankyXomb Oct 2015 #14
Cut the B.S. kacekwl Oct 2015 #8
I stopped at the gas station the other day and... Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #9
How does it impact your electric bill? yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #17
About a dollar a day. Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #20
Oh wow. That is good. yeoman6987 Oct 2015 #22
Right now the market for used EVs is good Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #23
Down to $2.13 here in upstate NY. eggplant Oct 2015 #10
Are You Kidding! markmyword Oct 2015 #15
South Of I-80 Here ProfessorGAC Oct 2015 #19
Is $1.98 at a Raceway Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #21
You can see for yourself eggplant Oct 2015 #25
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #30
Southeastern Ohio prices Marthe48 Oct 2015 #11
See what richie rich can do. lonestarnot Oct 2015 #12
Yeah right. OPEC has been ruining sale prices for US oil companies d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #24
This is a common mistake of who is to blame... bobalew Oct 2015 #27
Its both actually d_legendary1 Oct 2015 #29
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #31
I stumbled on to $1.80/gallon today in rural Va. underpants Oct 2015 #26

christx30

(6,241 posts)
13. Different formulas of gas are better for controlling pollution
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 12:20 PM
Oct 2015

in different times of the year. Winter blends are cheaper to produce, but are worse for the environment than summer blends. That's why gas prices go up on Memorial Day.


http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/a3180/summer-blend-vs-winter-blend-gasoline-whats-the-difference-13747431/

 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
16. But if they would just do one blend all year round then the price and pollution could stableize....m
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:04 PM
Oct 2015

christx30

(6,241 posts)
18. Legally, they can't. These blends are mandated by
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:31 PM
Oct 2015

state law.

The different grades of gas are measured on a system of RVP, or Reid Vapor Pressure, which is measured in pounds per square inch (PSI). The higher the RVP number of a particular gas blend, the easier it is to vaporize and the worse it is for the environment. All gasoline blends have to be below 14.7 PSI, which is normal average atmospheric pressure. Any number higher than that and gasoline would become a gas.

During the summer heat, the RVP of gas has to be especially low to keep it from boiling off. The EPA mandates an RVP maximum of anywhere between 9.0 PSI and 7.8 PSI for summer-grade fuel, depending on region (though you get a fudge factor of 1 psi for using gas blended with 10 percent ethanol). There are even lower RVP-rated fuels for cities like Houston, New York, and L.A. Different states and cities have their own rules based upon their seasonal temperatures—Washington state needs different summer gas than, say, Florida. That's why there are so many blends. To make it more complicated, the time for switching from summer- to winter-blend gasoline varies by state too.

Generally, the lower the RVP of a gas blend, the more it costs. For example, in winter you can blend butane, which is relatively plentiful and cheap, with gasoline. But butane, which has an RVP of 52 on its own, can't be used in summer, when it would immediately boil off as a gas. So "purer" summer gasoline is by default costlier. (And there are other factors at play too. More people travel in summer during peak driving season, for instance, putting more stress on demand.)

Warpy

(111,106 posts)
28. Right, my car is running on fumes because I've wanted to wait for gasohol
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:56 PM
Oct 2015

to hit the tanks around here. It's quite a bit cleaner than the stuff they stock during the summer and I've seen a difference in the thickness of the pollution cloud before and after it was mandated during the winter.

I have a newish car that doesn't care what it eats. My old truck used to get mild indigestion on it when it climbed one of the steeper hills.

Response to BadGimp (Reply #3)

StanP50

(12 posts)
4. Needing a retrofit
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:44 AM
Oct 2015

More than likely it's one or more of the BOC CEO's that need a Yacht retrofitted, or a new addition to their ever growing defense fund over sea's that is the reason for it.

 

Time_Lord

(60 posts)
6. That blows.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 10:52 AM
Oct 2015

President Obama should have launched an investigation on their speculating oil prices a long time ago. Why would oil price jump 20 cents when Saudi Arabia cut their prices?

Is hydraulic fracking operations still in progress to obtain the oil?

Babel_17

(5,400 posts)
7. "seasonal refinery maintenance"
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:14 AM
Oct 2015

What, several refineries coincidentally have it at the same time?

Though, to be fair, it is a herculean effort to get a state and the feds to allow a company to build a new refinery. The oil companies console themselves by exploiting the lack of slack in the refining process.

kacekwl

(7,009 posts)
8. Cut the B.S.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:15 AM
Oct 2015

Cost of doing business . This happens all the time I didn't know we have 24 seasons in the country.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
20. About a dollar a day.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:50 PM
Oct 2015

Two to three cents a mile driven versus eight cents a mile for our gasoline Sentra.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
23. Right now the market for used EVs is good
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 03:09 PM
Oct 2015

A lot of early adopters went with leases and they are now going back to the lots. New models with better ranges are coming out in the next few months, so Leafs (pure electric) and Volts (electric with gasoline "range extender&quot with low miles are going for $10-$15K.

eggplant

(3,906 posts)
10. Down to $2.13 here in upstate NY.
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:26 AM
Oct 2015

Which is the cheapest it has been since the $3.50/gal days. I'd love to see it back under two bucks.

And yes, the spiking is just absurd.

markmyword

(180 posts)
15. Are You Kidding!
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 01:35 PM
Oct 2015

In my Chicago suburb it's $2.79 or $2.84 per gallon and Chicago is higher!

Who gets gas UNDER $2.00????

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
19. South Of I-80 Here
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oct 2015

We were at 2.49 but it went up a dime yesterday. A little farther south of where i live though, last Saturday was 2.22. 27 cents a gallon and it's literally one mile out of my way for where i was headed.

Response to markmyword (Reply #15)

Marthe48

(16,876 posts)
11. Southeastern Ohio prices
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 11:53 AM
Oct 2015

jump the beginning of the month, the middle of the month, the end of the month, change of any season, whenever there is an event in our area, from school starting to Christmas shopping, always just in time to gouge the hell out of people on fixed incomes, or who need to drive for any reason. I'm surprised the gas stations don't jack the price up in the morning, drop it for an hour, jack it back up for the lunch crowd and so on and on. And it doesn't matter who is in office, what party has a majority. The oil companies get away with gouging day in and day out. I'm 63 and I've watched their BS since 1974.

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
24. Yeah right. OPEC has been ruining sale prices for US oil companies
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:39 PM
Oct 2015

This is a weak attempt to raise the price so they can make a cent or two.

bobalew

(321 posts)
27. This is a common mistake of who is to blame...
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 04:52 PM
Oct 2015

It's not OPEC, it's The House of SAUD, doing this bit. You see they just stick a straw into the ground to get their oil, at about $19-21 dollars a barrel. It's bit more expensive to do that in Venezuela, or In Africa, or elswhere...Here, at about $41/ barrel. This is why the rest of the world is running Amok in financial ruin, including RUSSIA, because they were DEPENDING on $90.00 Plus oil prices. yeah the SHIP came in, & SANK at the DOCK...

d_legendary1

(2,586 posts)
29. Its both actually
Thu Oct 8, 2015, 05:08 PM
Oct 2015
Opec and the Saudis are screwing with oil producers world wide. I'm of the opinion that they want this to happen but no sure why. Perhaps to kill the competition when they stop production and raise the price back to $90 a barrel?

But you're right. They sank the ship at the dock.

Response to bobalew (Reply #27)

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