CNN releases Democratic debate podium order
Source: cnn
CNN releases Democratic debate podium order
By Eugene Scott, CNN
Updated 9:34 AM ET, Sun October 11, 2015
Washington (CNN)Hillary Clinton will be center stage on Tuesday night for the Democratic presidential candidates' first debate, according to the podium order released by CNN, which is hosting the event.
The position of the five candidates on the stage at the CNN Facebook Democratic Debate in Las Vegas is based on polls since Aug. 1 and was announced on CNN's "State of the Union."..............
Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/11/politics/cnn-democratic-debate-podium-order/index.html
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)appalachiablue
(41,047 posts)at the Democratic Party Debate. She's an environmentalist and has an avid interest in politics according to this CNN article. The Anthem was played at the GOP Debate I believe but I don't know if there's ever been a singer.
CNN, 'Sheryl Crow Set to Perform at CNN Democratic Party Debate', Fri. Oct. 9, 2015.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/10/07/entertainment/sheryl-crow-cnn-debate-feat/index.html
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)appalachiablue
(41,047 posts)DFW
(54,047 posts)So this, while an unusual venue, is not surprising.
appalachiablue
(41,047 posts)DFW
(54,047 posts)Mother Nature played along and gave us a beautiful balmy night at the Denver Stadium. Howard was MC as party chairman, and it was one inspiring speech after another interspersed with great music.
The stage was tiny from far away, but they had a big screen above the stands:
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appalachiablue
(41,047 posts)I was able to attend an Inaugural ball in Jan. 09 at the Smithsonian. It was a great event with Anita Baker performing.
DFW
(54,047 posts)I've never been to an Inaugural Ball. I've been invited four times now (guess which four LOL!!), but they're always on Jan. 20th, and I have to be back over here usually by the 17th at the latest. Maybe next time, I'll play hooky. What're they gonna do, fire me at age 65 and find someone else who speaks German, Russian, Spanish, Italian, Catalan, Dutch, Swedish and French (yes, I need them all for my work) on short notice?
appalachiablue
(41,047 posts)be fired with all your language and other skills. That's amazing. I studied German and French and now wish I'd also learned some Spanish which is on the list. I'm not that great, but love language and culture. The German pursuit (masochist!) was from visiting Germany when young with European friends. It made a huge impact and encouraged me to return to Europe and England quite a few times, also to see some of SA. The parents and an aunt and uncle who worked overseas are a lot of why I got the 'travel gene', happily.
Over the years I've been to three presidential Inaugural events, a blast- Clinton and Obama. Remember to wear sensible shoes for standing, have some eats before the affair, and Don't bring a bulky, valued coat. Retrieval at the coat check room on departure can be time consuming and pandemonium b/c of crowds. One year, Clinton's 2nd I think, there was a near riot at DC's beautiful Union Station ball due to big crowds plus some mix up like understaffing, so obtaining coats was a nightmare. Some just left without theirs friends told us; the coat mayhem even made the local news.
markmyword
(180 posts)I don't have cable and I don't want cable!
I'd like to see the debates, but they're limited to ONLY the people who PAY to watch TV . That's leaving a LOT of Americans out of the debates AND exposure to Bernie!!!
If you're trying to reach the masses, well a lot of them can't afford cable.
The last Republican question and answer pony show, which is NOT a debate was on cable too!
Somebody should tell the Democratic Party leaders, that by not having the debates on regular TV, they're loosing a big audience.
Don't forget Trump and Carson are getting tons of publicity and name recognition without these debates.
Bernie needs more name recognition with the average person. Several people I've talked to, have no idea who he is, or that he's running for President!
To top it off ,its at the Wynn casino, who's anti democrats, that's plain stupid!
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)And no "two tier" coverage necessary because one party does have it's shit together while the other is flinging shit at each other and at you and me, and at anyone and anything that does not conform with their world of myth and lies.
Decision 2016: Human or Ape - who will America choose to lead it?
erronis
(14,941 posts)That only leaves some free-thinking, probably liberal ones.
Probably excludes some of my friends that are so vested in "The First Lady" no matter what.
Fortunately, probably includes a lot of young and caring voters that really want the hear the positions.
JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)c588415
(285 posts)JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)And all but one are male.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)I wouldn't want them to put someone up there solely based on their gender or race.
840high
(17,196 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Democrats have been on the front lines in promoting such initiatives in other arenas; it behooves us to do the same in this one.
Travis_0004
(5,417 posts)Force somebody to run?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The United States Senate has had nine African-American elected or appointed office holders in its entire history.
Similar lack of diversity among Democratic governors.
still_one
(91,937 posts)Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)still_one
(91,937 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)If that is the case, then that is a serious problem.
still_one
(91,937 posts)sufficient criteria for choosing a president, and anyone can run for the Democratic nomination if so inclined
Regardless of race, gender, or religion
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I am not suggesting there is anything progressive about Ben Carson or Herman Cain.
I am saying that it is disappointing that there is not more diversity among our candidate pool.
still_one
(91,937 posts)demwing
(16,916 posts)That's what I get for watching the news, eh?
7962
(11,841 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)There are many barriers to entry in terms of being a candidate in the primary who gets a podium slot at the debate.
7962
(11,841 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)Tab
(11,093 posts)but if offered Cain or Carson I'd have to pass. That said, just because someone's white doesn't qualify them either (look at the whole Republican slate of candidates, Carson aside).
We can just encourage females and people of color to get into the party, but it's getting so nasty that a lot of good people don't want to be involved. And I don't blame them. Even white guys often don't want the job (Speaker of the House, anyone?), and look at all the crap Obama puts up with (Kenyan, birth certificate, even blatant complaints about the n---- in the White House); I'm not surprised others are cautious.
Plus they have to fund-raise and generally have a long slog to get to the White House. It's not surprising, though disappointing, that many don't want to go through the hassle. I don't blame them.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)This is something I find less than ideal.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Just because she's the solid front-runner in 95%~ states, depending on the polls that day.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is blah blah blah rant rant rant...etc...
Quackers
(2,256 posts)We finally get to here the candidates debate each other. 😀
riversedge
(69,708 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)LovingA2andMI
(7,006 posts)upaloopa
(11,417 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)the debate. Then the world can see what is what.
trueblue2007
(17,138 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)will happen but my guy is smart and focused. I am not worried. from the underlying tone and caps of your statement, you appear to have concern. Have a great few days until the debate and everyone knows what happened.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Prophecies are bemusing to read... much like astrology signs. Meaningless and unsupported, yet quite fun to examine.
Response to onehandle (Reply #4)
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bigwillq
(72,790 posts)George II
(67,782 posts).....if you were BEHIND her, as we all should be, it points LEFT!
George II
(67,782 posts)cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)That's why they keep sending out those phony "What-issues-are-most-important-to-you?" surveys with the "Send Money!" section on the back side. I have asked repeatedly and often, where I could view the results of those surveys and I've never gotten an answer or even an acknowledgement that I'd asked. And why wouldn't they want to share the results of those surveys? They're really just inane questions (always the same ones for that matter!) with answers that any real Democrat would choose the same answers for. But it's all just a ruse to provoke donations - thinking you're fighting the good fight by sending in cash for them to spend as THEY see fit - not as YOU might choose. It's like the pre-ordainment of HRC - just send the money (your dues) and shut up.
I'm convinced those elaborate (and probably expensive) surveys are NEVER EVER tabulated to see what donors say about given issues. You can bet the "donation" side of these mailings gets perfect tabulation - the questionnaire side gets treated to the "circular file".
And what about whichever Dem luminary they affix to these gleaning pleas? It can be Pelosi or Hoyer or Clinton or Reid or...... I often reflect on whether or not the signer has ever SEEN the document that gets sent out as tho it was a personal letter to me...
"Dear Mr. Suckerbait, As I'm sure you know, Democrats are in the minority this time around. Don't you wanna change that, Mr. Suckerbait? This isn't about the idealistic baloney we taunt you with each election cycle - this is about trying to fool you in to throwing in with our corporate financiers like one big, happy family. You'll find that privatized health care and corporate-contrived commerce shenanigans are really that bad once you're immersed in them. That's why we NEED you to play along, Mr. Suckerbait! So please answer the battery of questions we don't ever tally up and give us your credit card information. C'mon now - be a good little Democrat. We've got what you need and WHO you need to get it - all lined up for you. Just send you're money and show up to vote - we'll take care of all the rest. Trust us."
And CAN YOU BELIEVE...... I've gotten TWO mailings from the Democratic Senate - get this..... - asking for donations on the strength of Bernie Sanders popularity!!! Not asking for donations TO Bernie - just money for the Senate because the Dems count him as one of theirs! You hafta know that DWS had a hand in that bit of strategy! It smells like her handiwork (although I'm sure she has plenty of able lieutenants).
The GOP is so obviously a ship of fecal fools, but the ASSumptive DNC is circling in the ceramic whirlpool with them. As Bernie has been saying: we need a POLITICAL revolution - not a partisan one.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)stonecutter357
(12,682 posts)StoneCarver
(249 posts)It's Hillary's to lose. I don't know if Bernie will win or not but it's a national stage for his message. People are pissed and are tired of a rigged system (political, economic, trade, etc.). I see it as our last shot at protecting our democracy. I see very little difference between Bill Clinton, GW Bush, BH Obama, and Hillary. If I were the 1% I know who I'd want -Jeb or Hillary. It makes no difference. So I guess it's ours to lose in the end.
Stonecarver
Exactly! Could not have said it better.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)One suspects that HRC will be thrown the most time and most softballs.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)I know Bernie will do great, if he is given some time. Same for the rest of the candidates.
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)democratic party used to be!
XemaSab
(60,212 posts)n/t
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)It looks like the debate should be between Hillary and Bernie.
Should they need to be at least about 1% in the polling?
O'Malley is 0.7
Webb is 0.8
Chafee is 0.2
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)But this is about TV ratings as much as a candidacy. And those three "ain't got a chancers" are just wasted valuable time that we could have to hear from the real contenders. The whole debate scheme is just bullshit for the networks to bounce around. Why not judge the stage positions with respect to the candidates ages? How about a stage position lottery? How about judging their position with an applause meter? Ya hafta wonder if Webb would even get on the stage by that one! - and HOW DID Webb escape the GOP debates? Isn't that where he belongs???
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)CNN criteria: an avg of 1% in at least 3 polls in the past six weeks.
They could have said at least 1% overall in all polls in the past six weeks.
Or at least 1% above the margin-of-error.
Or at least 5%.
johnfunk
(6,113 posts)stand a chance, but his presence would help establish a big blue line in the political sand on what should be the Dems' economic policy.
freedom fighter jh
(1,782 posts)He was getting the required 1%, but then polls stopped including his name -- so he couldn't score in the polls, so he can't be in the debate.
The relevant part starts at 5:00.
Yeah, his presence would force the issue of campaign financing, an issue that needs to be raised. And it would put Hillary to shame for the donations she takes. I think he might stand a chance if people heard of him -- which they would, if he were in the debate.
It's outrageous.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)it would put Hillary to shame for the donations she takes
Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)After he announced, most polls didn't include him.
Then he complained to the pollsters and some included him, but his numbers had dropped by then.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Eric J in MN
(35,619 posts)...was an avg of 1% in at least 3 polls in the past six weeks.
He was included in few polls, and when he was included he sometimes got under 1%.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Hard to get a percentage if you are not included
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)Thespian2
(2,741 posts)Democratic No-brain Committee, Don't Listen Council, and the Turd Way...don't give a flying shit about real Democrats...Money is their true god...
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)there's a difference, I've know them, there is no difference when it comes to $$$$$$$$$$$$$'s.
FlatBaroque
(3,160 posts)MH1
(17,537 posts)mylye2222
(2,992 posts)Hillary placed at center.... the safer place. I bet the " moderator " will offer her the 2/3 speaking time.
MH1
(17,537 posts)So it seems logical that they would put her at center.
But if there were an even number, no one would be in the center, and Sanders and Clinton could be side by side in the inner positions - which would represent the polling a lot better.
I think the DNC is scared shitless to include Lessig in the debates.
RichVRichV
(885 posts)then it would make more sense to have the positions randomized, or since there's currently more debates than participants (amazingly) use a round robin approach so each candidate gets a chance at center stage. Either of these could result in Clinton being center stage at this debate, but would be more fair than simply favoring whoever gets the most MSM attention (which seems to be the case here for all the positions).
Still I think it's a minor issue in and of itself. I just hope it's not a sign of how the rest of the debate is going to go (and I'm not just referring to Hillary here). It's already bad enough that Lessig was left out.
End Of The Road
(1,397 posts)Campaign finance reform is not a sexy topic, but he might have been able to give the issue some legs.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)The pink really grabs one's attention.
Plucketeer
(12,882 posts)Pre-debate credits will include a list of corporate donors for each hopeful.
Duckhunter935
(16,974 posts)Chasstev365
(5,191 posts)You mean they didn't put Bernie at a card table in the back of the hall? SCREW THE MSM: GO BERNIE!
BernieFan57
(80 posts)That is decidedly undemocratic.
There's no argument to be made that this is anything but unfair to the other candidates.
Shame on CNN, the debate arrangement should have either been random or revolving with different folks getting center at each debate.
More power to Bernie and O'Malley, the real progressives on stage.
Iwillnevergiveup
(9,298 posts)no matter where his place is. Stay tuned.
RKP5637
(67,030 posts)just given up they are so fed up with the republicans and democrats, many no longer bother to vote. I have some friends like that and Bernie has renewed their hope for real hope. They had said F 2016, they were not going to listen and didn't give a F they were so fed up with it all, and were not even going to vote. Very stupid IMO. BUT NOW, they listen to Bernie every chance they get.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)lovemydog
(11,833 posts)who don't call the other ones idiots.
Looking forward to a debate of ideas and policy.
Psephos
(8,032 posts)Word is it's nasty. Calling him an idiot would be the kindest thing they'll say if/when he jumps in.
7962
(11,841 posts)Orrex
(63,083 posts)His supporters will deny this, but his "straight talking" Brooklyn-style accent will not serve him well in the south or midwest. These are the states, remember, that thought Gore was "too aggressive" because he took a step forward to shake Bush's paw. A candidate who speaks with a perceived pushiness and with a strong northeastern accent will do himself no favors.
"But Orrex, he's packing them in at rallies nationwide."
Sure, but it's far from clear that he's grabbing the fence-sitters or unbelievers. From most of what I hear, he's drawing in those who already "feel the Bern" plus a handful of easy converts. It's less certain that his "straight talking" will appeal so readily to a wider audience.
This is the candidate who, just a few short weeks ago, barked at an NPR interviewer for asking questions that Sanders didn't like. To all but his supporters, Sanders seemed angry and petulant.
Yes, I know: he was simply "telling it like it is," and he has no time for bullshit questions. Well, that's the name of the game in politics--a ton of bullshit questions that the interviewee doesn't like. And if a candidate can't handle a softball NPR interview gracefully, how will the candidate respond to an intense, months-long national barrage of annoying questions?
I will of course vote for Sanders if he miraculously wins the nomination, but I still can't see it happening.
ForgoTheConsequence
(4,846 posts)Here in Iowa he is polling ahead of Hillary. I'm sure he'll take your advice though........
Orrex
(63,083 posts)ForgoTheConsequence
(4,846 posts)Are you here now? How do you know what goes over well?
Orrex
(63,083 posts)RichVRichV
(885 posts)I haven't heard a single person complain about Bernie's personality in Southern Illinois. People I've talked to around here who have watched him speak have loved him. No one has had issue with his speaking style.
This whole gruff grandpa worry seems to be a DU phenomenon as far as I've seen.
Unless he pulls an Ozzy and bites the head off of someone who interrupts him tomorrow, I don't think too many are going to have an issue with his stage presence.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Yes Hillary is in the middle but having the 2 most vocal liberal candidates to her left who both on planning challenging her outright on her stances? The whole "devil on my shoulder" thing comes to mind. I'm thinking this was done very intentional and Hillary's head will be swinging left and right. Interesting CNN.
Lychee2
(405 posts)They dilute the contrast between Hillary and Bernie. Here's how the other candidates are doing in the polls.
O'Malley 0.6%
Chafee 0.2%
Webb 0.9%
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/2016_democratic_presidential_nomination-3824.html
The decision to set the threshold low enough to include them was deliberate:
Itll be a threshold thatll be expansive and allows for the maximum inclusion of our major party candidates," Wasserman Schultz told MSNBCs Ari Melber. She said the DNC hasnt quite finished formulating the details for the debates, including specific dates, locations and media sponsors.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/10/democratic-debate-criteria_n_7772156.html
Who wants to listen to these three impossibilities drone on about their policies? But that's what the DNC wanted, and that's what they got.
elleng
(130,126 posts)I sure as hell hope YOU, and many others, listen to Governor Martin O'Malley 'drone on' about his policies, and if your hearing isn't good, try READING about his policies and plans here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=forum&id=1281
Lychee2
(405 posts)But your candidate has about the same chance of winning as my cat, whom I love dearly.
elleng
(130,126 posts)based on what the main stream media chooses to tell you? You think this is SMART?
The election is NOT a horse race, but I guess you haven't figured that out.
Lychee2
(405 posts)Because only the possible can become the actual. And at this late stage of the game, a guy with less than 1% is outside the possible.
elleng
(130,126 posts)and to select from among those the bought media tells you is 'possible' is extremely irresponsible.
Who heard of Jimmy Carter at this stage of the game in 1975?
lovemydog
(11,833 posts)I think Martin O'Malley will do very well.
newblewtoo
(667 posts)tune running through my mind??
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)very anti war, and bernie is immediately to her right
she is surrounded by people who disagree with vehemently on iwr and other hawkish views
should be interesting
Fearless
(18,421 posts)Yet from her point of view to the right.
Classic.