Ex-members of church where teens were beaten talk of decline
Source: Associated Press
Ex-members of church where teens were beaten talk of decline
Mary Esch, Associated Press
Updated 10:01 pm, Saturday, October 17, 2015
ALBANY, N.Y. (AP) Former members of the upstate New York church where two teens were viciously beaten paint a picture of a once vibrant and joyous house of worship that declined into a place of fear and intimidation under new leadership.
"When I first arrived, it was warm and welcoming. It was encouraging. It was helpful," said Chadwick Handville, a massage therapist in Phoenix, Arizona, who left the Word of Life Christian Church in June 2000 after 10 years that included a stint as a worship leader and trustee. Things went downhill after founder Jerry Irwin returned from some time away and reclaimed his position as pastor, Handville said.
"What was off the wall was his attitude toward others," Handville said. "It wasn't happy. He accused every male of lusting after his wife."
Handville said Irwin's preaching was filled with personal attacks on parishioners, whom he forced to work long hours renovating the Irwin family's apartment on the third floor of the former school building that houses the church in New Hartford, which is 100 miles west of Albany.
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kelliekat44
(7,759 posts)7962
(11,841 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)decline, really? I can't imagine why people wouldn't want to spend time with a bunch of cretinous psycho freaks who believe it's OK to torture a child to death because of some twisted view of religion. Boy i guess there is just no pleasing some people...
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)think about what it is they are legitimizing. I offer to you that those who defend any clergy that berates and denigrates others contributes to the power clergy has to do harm.
Karma13612
(4,547 posts)go straight to jail.
What happens in the name of religion, anywhere in this world, is beyond me.
Pro-life often ='s Pro-abuse
Those who are pro-life feel that religion is above everything including rational compassionate treatment of others.
Who gives them the right?? And don't tell me God. He would not have wished the effects of their actions on anyone.
disgusting.
keithbvadu2
(36,722 posts)Huckabee should be along any minute now.
NonMetro
(631 posts)Charismatic leader, closed group, secrecy, etc., it's all there. People were living in their own little world. Pity is the word, IMO.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)and what in his mind caused him to think that the men in the church lusted after his wife? Might it be that he was "seeing" what was already in his own heart and mind? That is, he himself had lustful thoughts towards married women?
DhhD
(4,695 posts)sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)of church and state. There is no such thing as a theologically justifiable homicide (no more burning of witches and heretics). Do the crime, do the time. Sane people need to make sure it stays that way.